Is the Pentagon spying on Americans?

NBC News ^ | Dec. 13, 2005 | Lisa Myers, Douglas Pasternak, Rich Gardella and the NBC Investigative Unit

[ADemocratNoMore]

Is the Pentagon spying on Americans? Secret database obtained by NBC News tracks ‘suspicious’ domestic groups.

WASHINGTON - A year ago, at a Quaker Meeting House in Lake Worth, Fla., a small group of activists met to plan a protest of military recruiting at local high schools. What they didn't know was that their meeting had come to the attention of the U.S. military.

A secret 400-page Defense Department document obtained by NBC News lists the Lake Worth meeting as a “threat” and one of more than 1,500 “suspicious incidents” across the country over a recent 10-month period.

[ADemocratNoMore]

NBC gets bent out of shape over our side trying to stay one step ahead of the enemy by compiling domestic intelligence. Personally, I WANT us to know what the "Usefull Idiots" and terrorist sympathizers are doing.

The real story here, INHO is why is NBC allowed to get away with leaking SECRET Defense Department documents?.

My contempt for the MSM has gone way up, along with my blood pressure. The Fourth Estate has become the Fifth Column, and some of them ought wind up in Gitmo.

[Lunatic Fringe]

Personally, I WANT us to know what the "Usefull Idiots" and terrorist sympathizers are doing.

Interesting... and how would you feel if Clinton had decided that "right-wingers" and Christians needed to be monitored after OKC?

[Carling]

Interesting... and how would you feel if Clinton had decided that "right-wingers" and Christians needed to be monitored after OKC?

I'm still wondering why they dumped the darker-skinned John Doe #3 sightings, witnessed by at least 20 people, so quickly.

[tet68]

how would you feel if Clinton had decided that "right-wingers" and Christians needed to be monitored after OKC?

You mean he didn't? Damn, all those milita dues for nothing.

[ADemocratNoMore]

> how would you feel if Clinton had decided that "right-wingers" and Christians needed to be monitored after OKC?

I get your point, and it is a good one. I'm afraid that I don't have any better answers than to say that was then and this is now. When the "Peace" protesters are calling for the fragging of our troups and worse, I think it as a good thing that we keep an eye on them.

[Echo Talon]

Im glad the military is doing something to protect themselves.
Good job.

[Ben Mugged]

Releasing classified documents is a crime just like human biological experiments are a crime. The end does not justify the means. Someone at NBC needs a blindfold and a cigarette.

[ErnBatavia]

I'm still wondering why they dumped the darker-skinned John Doe #3 sightings, witnessed by at least 20 people, so quickly.

Probably because it was another "grassy knoll" kinda thing.

[Old Sarge]

You mean, all that sneaking around in the woods I did was just "training"?

[weegee]

Don't expect prosecution. They are busy with Plamegate.

[Carling]

Many people have been interviewed and have said they saw a third person that day. Jayna Davis has done extensive work on this.

I'm not getting your "grassy knoll" reference completely. Are you saying that the gov't decided to suppress the entire story?

[Reagan Man]

I think its wise for our government to err on the side of caution. After all, if you have nothing to hide, you should welcome the scrutiny. I'd rather be safe then sorry. Taking unnecessary risks with the lives of innocent Americans is a position only a fool would encourage .

[BigSkyFreeper]

When the "Peace" protesters are calling for the fragging of our troups and worse, I think it as a good thing that we keep an eye on them.

The dopey fringers be it right or left, are always going to be a threat to everyone, including themselves, no matter who occupies the White House. They're devoid of reasoning, common sense and logic.

[muawiyah]

Since right wingers and Christians were monitored after OK City, I'd suggest that it's more appropriate to monitor those who are a real threat ~ like that gang of faux Quakers in Wisconsin.

You haven't been here long have you?

[Lunatic Fringe]

if you have nothing to hide, you should welcome the scrutiny.

That's a slippery slope I dont want to start down.

[razorgirl]

Im glad the military is doing something to protect themselves. Good job.

The military's job is to protect US, not themselves - we are the ones paying for them.

I don't know why so many on this board are so eager to hand over to government the right to interfere in every aspect of our lives. 9-11 happened, not because the government wasn't snooping enough into the affairs of citizens, but because the government didn't make terrorism a priority despite an avalanche of data from FBI and CIA field agents. Since the government didn't use the info it had then, how are things improved by letting them get at 1000X more info on our personal lives?

As I had posted elsewhere, Clinton had made big incursions into civil liberties with the 1996 anti-terrorist bill, which, among other things, left it up to the Secretary of State to decide which groups were "terrorists".

What do you think President Hitlery would do with that power?

[ADemocratNoMore]

Agree 110 %. Unfortunately, the MSM does not. NBC leaks secret documents. Guess that shows their true colors.

[Lancey Howard]

A red flag always goes up for me when I read about a "leak".
It is my opinion that more often than not a "leak" is either a misdirection, a trial balloon, or part of some kind of disinformation campaign. And sometimes these leaks are orchestrated by people on the inside in an effort to find out who the leakers are.

[OldFriend]

Same reason they ignored all those folks on the shore who saw a missile streak towards TWA Flight #800.

Something to hide.

[Kjobs]

I'm all for Homeland Security, but something is seriously out of whack if the Pentagon is spying on the Quakers.