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LIVE THREAD - UPDATE: TOOKIE WILLIAMS EXECUTED
Fox news | Dec 12, 2005

Posted on 12/12/2005 10:45:34 AM PST by commish

Gov. Shwarzeneggar expected to make announcement on Tookie Williams Execution Clemency shortly according to Fox News.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ahhhnuld; black; clemency; deathpenalty; freyhim; frymumia; frytookie; governator; injecthim; joinarnold; nananana; nobreakfastfortookie; schwarzenegger; schwarzenrino; stanleywilliams; stanwilliams; terminator; thanksarnold; tookie; tookielive; tookiewilliams
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To: p23185
"HASTA LA VISTA BABY"


721 posted on 12/12/2005 12:41:28 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: dennisw

I guess the call to Last-Meals-on-Wheels has been made.


722 posted on 12/12/2005 12:41:31 PM PST by Crawdad (So the guy says to the doctor, "It hurts when I do this.")
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To: Rutles4Ever
I used to be ardently for capital punishment, but with our piss poor legal system and the corruption of lawyers and the judiciary (as we've all witnessed), I don't think the government should own the right to execute anyone.

I agree with you 100%. A nation that can produce an OJ jury, a Clinton presidency, Roe v. Wade, and the Kelo decision doesn't even have the moral authority to put people in prison -- let alone execute them.

723 posted on 12/12/2005 12:41:39 PM PST by Alberta's Child (What it all boils down to is that no one's really got it figured out just yet.)
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To: MineralMan

Fascinating discussion here...been following it sporadically today..

I have very mixed feelings about the death penalty..was squarely against it for years- then wholeheartedly for it. Now I'm not so sure..

Even so- I'm kinda proud of Arnold- he followed the law in California- AND he took a personal interest in this- he learned about the case- testimony etc before he decided.

If The Ninth Circuit couldn't find an out - there isn't one.


724 posted on 12/12/2005 12:41:40 PM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

How about Richard Ramirez??? The Night Stalker! he's well overdue!


725 posted on 12/12/2005 12:41:41 PM PST by laney (Merry Christmas Freepers!)
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To: xp38

Hanging also generates better songs;

25 Minutes To Go
[Johnny Cash]


Well they're building a gallows outside my cell I've got 25 minutes to go
And the whole town's waitin' just to hear me yell I've got 24 minutes to go
Well they gave me some beans for my last meal I've got 23 minutes to go
But nobody asked me how I feel I've got 22 minutes to go
Well I sent for the governor and the whole dern bunch with 21 minutes to go
And I sent for the mayor but he's out to lunch I've got 20 more minutes to go
Then the sheriff said boy I gonna watch you die got 19 minutes to go
So I laughed in his face and I spit in his eye got 18 minutes to go
Now hear comes the preacher for to save my soul with 13 minutes to go
And he's talking bout' burnin' but I'm so cold I've 12 more minutes to go
Now they're testin' the trap and it chills my spine 11 more minutes to go
And the trap and the rope aw they work just fine got 10 more minutes to go
Well I'm waitin' on the pardon that'll set me free with 9 more minutes to go
But this is for real so forget about me got 8 more minutes to go
With my feet on the trap and my head on the noose got 5 more minutes to go
Won't somebody come and cut me loose with 4 more minutes to go
I can see the mountains I can see the skies with 3 more minutes to go
And it's to dern pretty for a man that don't wanna die 2 more minutes to go
I can see the buzzards I can hear the crows 1 more minute to go
And now I'm swingin' and here I go-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o!


726 posted on 12/12/2005 12:41:46 PM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: commish
No Clemenceau!


727 posted on 12/12/2005 12:41:47 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: CounterCounterCulture; Petronski

Looks like Petronski beat you by a split second!!!


728 posted on 12/12/2005 12:41:50 PM PST by SierraWasp (That "Nasty, Berating" Wasp that keep stingin SchwartzenRenegger and his Swooners!!!)
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To: txflake

I heard that same thing last night on KFI.

Apparently the 'secret witness' was another prisoner he'd

been in jail with. Can't imagine what he could have had

to offer 'after the fact' that would get tookie off, and

couldn't have had much behind it since it's been

practically ignored.


Was probably a ruse just to try and delay things.


729 posted on 12/12/2005 12:41:54 PM PST by AmeriBrit (HILLARY's1974 Watergate Crimes: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/925684/posts)
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To: MineralMan
Again I agree with you in part and I can understand how you came to some of the conclusions you have. The death penalty is imperfect, just as we are, just as our society is. I know that the death penalty does not deter psychopaths- and most people who murder are psychopaths. But what to do with them? Bottom line is- if it is safer for my law abiding children to walk the streets at night because a psychopath is gone from us.. so be it. I do not mean for that to sound trite.. my children's safety, or my neighbor's children is my filter for many things.

No, you are right- this is not a joking matter. But some people show grief and/or stress thru humor, that is human nature in some.

730 posted on 12/12/2005 12:42:01 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Welcome home PFC Jonathan Bush)
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To: commish

I hear he murdered some people. I hope I never murder anyone in cold blood, cuz the death sentence seems to be real.


731 posted on 12/12/2005 12:42:03 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: samtheman
I am not celebrating an execution, but I do believe that the death penalty is an appropriate response to some crimes and that this is one of the crimes.

Agreed.

732 posted on 12/12/2005 12:42:14 PM PST by SmithL (Tookie Delenda Est!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Remember, Tookie, when I promised to kill you last?

I lied.


733 posted on 12/12/2005 12:42:16 PM PST by rock_lobsta
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To: ExSoldier

Well, Im suprised and I was wrong.

Arnold did not cave. Thats good.

The victims families must be relieved.

I hope there are no riots.


734 posted on 12/12/2005 12:42:16 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: commish

I don't have any arguement with that, I am actually a proponent of the death penalty. I was just anwering the poster saying that Christians should be for the death penalty because the convicted goes to a better place--not necessarily so.


735 posted on 12/12/2005 12:42:22 PM PST by Mom MD
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To: p23185

Tookie, Remember when I said we'd kill you last?

I lied......


736 posted on 12/12/2005 12:42:30 PM PST by misterrob
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To: commish


Just announced, Tookie's gonna fry tonite, thank you AAAAAAAArnold!


737 posted on 12/12/2005 12:42:36 PM PST by rockabyebaby (I'm not afraid to say out loud what the rest of you are afraid to admit.)
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To: NorCalRepub

I could end up being wrong on this but I'm betting that very few people are really going to give a crap about Tookie. This is a big issue with liberal elites but not with anyone who might engage in a riot.


738 posted on 12/12/2005 12:42:39 PM PST by G-Bob
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To: Raycpa

"It should be hard for our government to put a man to death. "

It should be hard for one person to kill another...let alone 4 people!

As founder of the Crips gang, Tookie Williams is also responsible for the lives that have been lost when wars broke out between the Crips and the Bloods. How would you like to live in a neighborhood where shootouts are frequent, where innocent children are killed by stray bullets?


739 posted on 12/12/2005 12:42:40 PM PST by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: steveo

Not at all. Something I remembered from school.

That's why in Euroweenia it's different, actually higher, but safer.


740 posted on 12/12/2005 12:42:41 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ("It's time for a f****** war, so join the army of hardcore")
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