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LIVE THREAD - UPDATE: TOOKIE WILLIAMS EXECUTED
Fox news | Dec 12, 2005

Posted on 12/12/2005 10:45:34 AM PST by commish

Gov. Shwarzeneggar expected to make announcement on Tookie Williams Execution Clemency shortly according to Fox News.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
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To: MineralMan

9th Circuit Court of Appeals rejects Tookie's stay of execution. tick, tock.


461 posted on 12/12/2005 12:08:27 PM PST by freedom4ever
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To: commish

9th circuit court of appeals rejects stay of execution.


462 posted on 12/12/2005 12:08:37 PM PST by TwoSue
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To: July 4th
9th Circuit denies appeal!!

That's what AHHNOLD was waiting to get him off the hook.

463 posted on 12/12/2005 12:08:40 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Mad_as_heck
We clearly need a constitutional amendment barring anyone who appeared in the movie Predator from holding any public office.

Not even this guy?


464 posted on 12/12/2005 12:08:58 PM PST by rock_lobsta
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To: billbears
...the Framers had no recourse but to accept the Crown's position, no matter how unjust that position was.

If you will read the document I referenced earlier, you will find the following tidbits:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.

465 posted on 12/12/2005 12:09:09 PM PST by pgyanke (I shudder for my country when I reflect that God is just. - (paraphrased) T. Jefferson)
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To: Howlin
9th Circuit REJECTS Tookie's appeal!

Now, that IS a shock coming from that circus.

466 posted on 12/12/2005 12:09:10 PM PST by b4its2late (The only substitute for good manners is faster reflexes.)
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To: MineralMan

Fair enough. But I still don't think the question can be answered logically for the scenario created. Merry Christmas.


467 posted on 12/12/2005 12:09:18 PM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: Howlin

this is old news. it's in arnold's hands now.


468 posted on 12/12/2005 12:09:24 PM PST by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: Chena

Hannity just mentioned what JJ said. His show is opening with a "Tookie Watch"


469 posted on 12/12/2005 12:09:36 PM PST by hattend (Roast a Tookie for Christmas.)
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To: Howlin
Shoot, if the 9th Circus rejected it then he should be toast...
470 posted on 12/12/2005 12:09:39 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Jigsaw John

I have been thinking about Arnold's safety as well. It is a good thing to point that out as a legitimate concern.

Thank you.


471 posted on 12/12/2005 12:10:33 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: MineralMan
My mistake. I thought by saying that your ethics weren't bound by the Old Testament, you were arguing that only the New Testament matters.
472 posted on 12/12/2005 12:10:37 PM PST by Tree of Liberty (requiescat in pace, President Reagan)
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To: infidel29

Actually Sonny Landham RAN for Governor of Kentucky in 2003 and was defeated.


473 posted on 12/12/2005 12:10:37 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: confederate_infidel
Image hosted by Photobucket.com naaa... 5 Brazillian is prolly enough!!! 8^)
474 posted on 12/12/2005 12:10:50 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: WV Mountain Mama

Has Jesse even READ the Bible?

If you want biblical figure swimming in violence, that would be David, not Moses. However, David also paid a steep price for his actions against God.

But of course, Jesse would ignore that part. He probably calls the God of Israel a racist.


475 posted on 12/12/2005 12:10:59 PM PST by xusafflyer (Mexifornian by birth, Hoosier by choice)
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To: conservative physics

"Actually there is no need to argue the point biblically, pure logic will do.

Society either has the right and obligation to punish wrongdoer's or it doesn't. If it doesn't have that right, then you are arguing for anarchy, since if disobeying the law has no consequence then there is no law."




We do not disagree, then. Yes, the state has the obligation to punish wrongdoers. The only question is in how it will do so.

It is my opinion that the state should not use capital punishment to do so. I am not in favor of anarchy in any way. There is more than one sort of punishment.

As a member of this society (not California, however) I am bound to respect its decisions, even if I disagree with them. I am also a participant in that society, and may have influence in it (precious little, I suspect).

On a personal basis, I will not be subject to the state's capital punishment laws. I will not commit capital crimes. I also will not be taking to the streets to protest capital punishment, although I will vote against it when possible.


476 posted on 12/12/2005 12:10:59 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: infidel29

He dropped out of the race for governor in Kentucky a few years back.


477 posted on 12/12/2005 12:11:05 PM PST by LanPB01
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To: commish
I'm on the record. Here's what I predicted last week:

The people who think Tookie should be executed won't riot if he's pardoned, but they will remember during next year's election.

The people that think Tookie is some kind of hero may or may not riot, but they will never support Arnold under any circumstances.

If Arnold wanted to play hero to the left, he would have done it yesterday, as soon as the hearing was over. No, he's going to let the execution go forward. However, he won't announce it until the last possible minute, in order to minimize the disruption between the announcement and the execution.

478 posted on 12/12/2005 12:11:10 PM PST by SmithL (Tookie Delenda Est!)
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To: rock_lobsta

That guy died a few years back (the guy inside the suit...we know the Predator died in the movie)


479 posted on 12/12/2005 12:11:14 PM PST by hattend (Roast a Tookie for Christmas.)
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To: rom
This is satire right? I hope... Comparing Tookie to Charlton Heston, err I mean Moses? I knew JJ was nuts, but wow. Just wow.

No, it wasn't satire. I hit the back up button on the satellite to replay what they reported and typed what I heard. I was shocked too, that's why I backed up the live feed to make sure I heard correctly.

480 posted on 12/12/2005 12:11:43 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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