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To: billbears
...the Framers had no recourse but to accept the Crown's position, no matter how unjust that position was.

If you will read the document I referenced earlier, you will find the following tidbits:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.

465 posted on 12/12/2005 12:09:09 PM PST by pgyanke (I shudder for my country when I reflect that God is just. - (paraphrased) T. Jefferson)
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To: pgyanke

Look I have no problem with the Framers' action. As a Southerner, I fully support such a cause and still do to this day. The point I was replying to was the original poster supplied Romans 13 in the NIV version which when taken out of context would not support any dissent, which is false


613 posted on 12/12/2005 12:33:42 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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