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Jeanine to disa-Pirro from race vs. Hil ( Pirro Dropping Out of Race Against Hillary )
NY Daily News ^ | 12/12/05 | JOE MAHONEY

Posted on 12/11/2005 7:09:15 PM PST by nj26

Jeanine Pirro is expected to quit her bid to unseat Sen. Hillary Clinton as early as tomorrow, prematurely ending what had been billed as one of the nation's marquee races. Just a few months ago, the smart, aggressive and charming Westchester district attorney was the darling of a Republican Party convinced she was the right candidate who - even if she couldn't beat Clinton - could at least slice into her high approval ratings.

But now, Pirro, 54, is being written off as the first political roadkill of the 2006 election season. And Clinton never even had to throw a punch.

What happened?

"She's been hurt by a lack of money and a campaign that from the beginning has been sputtering at best," said Marist College pollster Lee Miringoff.

Pirro, he said, also fell into the trap of making a central issue of her campaign that Clinton harbors presidential ambitions and won't finish a second term, a claim that, even if true, doesn't seem to matter much to most New Yorkers.

GOP insiders said they expect her to toss in the towel tomorrow when Republican leaders meet in Albany to gear up for next year's elections, which also feature races for governor, state attorney general, Congress and all 212 state lawmakers.

Officially, her campaign says Pirro has no plans to quit, but sources said she will be "drafted" to run for attorney general, a job for which many of her backers say she is well qualified given her background as a prosecutor and former judge.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2006; boxerlookalike; clintonclone; cokeheadhusband; facelift; gopprimary; gospencer; hillary; hillaryclone; pirro; rino; senate2006; unelectable; wasteoftime
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To: nopardons

Schwarzenegger and Arlen tought some important lessons for conservatives across the country. These RINOs will stab you in the back, and that's a guarantee. Not only that, these GOP'ers undermine the credibility of other conservative candidates, on the basis of "guilty by association."


21 posted on 12/11/2005 7:28:45 PM PST by Frank T
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To: Frank T

BS. RINOs like Collins and Snowe and Spector cast plenty of votes for our side - we will get all three of those votes for Alito for example. can you same the same if those 3 seantors were Dems? don't tell me "RINOs are Dems", look at the voting records of these people.

many states are simply too demographically unbalanced to run your "real conservatives", and have a chance at winning. either you modify your political strategy in those locales, or you lose.


22 posted on 12/11/2005 7:29:52 PM PST by oceanview
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To: nopardons

Also, weren't you one of those pro-Harriet freepers?

I must say, the epithet "ultra" makes you come across as a Leftie. You betray your prejudice.


23 posted on 12/11/2005 7:30:13 PM PST by Frank T
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To: oceanview

You might be surprised how much CLOSER the race will be when people are offered a CHOICE and not an echo. If running candidates that are identical to the liberal 'Rats in every way except for the party label, there no longer needs a reason for the Republican Party to exist.

BTW, that's how the Whigs were done in, too.


24 posted on 12/11/2005 7:30:31 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: Paladin2

the "Kennedy" name is not the "Clinton" name.


25 posted on 12/11/2005 7:30:52 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview

You don't get more "demographically unbalanced" (sic) than Rhode Island. Yet, lo and behold, they have a Conservative GOP Governor. How many times must we go over this with you people until it sinks in ?


26 posted on 12/11/2005 7:32:23 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: oceanview

Moot point. She's a New Yorker now.


27 posted on 12/11/2005 7:34:09 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

no she isn't - that still is an effective campaign issue against her, especially in light of her moving onto a presidential bid.


28 posted on 12/11/2005 7:37:02 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview

"what for, so we can lose by 40 pts with dignity?"

To build up a credible alternative?

It'll take time, yes, but why shouldn't it?

If mean 'ol conservatism won't play in the NY senatorial race, then how about paring back on the conservatism, and not rejecting it completely? Guiliani has his liberal views, but he "focused like a laser beam" on at least one conservative issue - crime. If general social conservatism won't sell, then how about someone whose otherwise "moderate" but is, say, a staunch tax cut advocate? Or pro-tort reform, anti-Kelo decision? Being Hillary-like is no solution.


29 posted on 12/11/2005 7:37:33 PM PST by Frank T
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To: oceanview

Pataki is the reason that the N.Y. state GOP is in such terrible shape. He's really run out of steam, ticked far too many people off, and no, he wouldn't have a chance.


30 posted on 12/11/2005 7:42:02 PM PST by nopardons
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To: oceanview

"RINOs like Collins and Snowe and Spector cast plenty of votes for our side - we will get all three of those votes for Alito for example."

I wouldn't bet on ANY of those votes for Alito. Snowe has pledged to never vote for an anti-Roe justice to replace Sandra Day O'Connor.


31 posted on 12/11/2005 7:43:05 PM PST by nj26
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To: nj26

What's Al DeMato up to these days?


32 posted on 12/11/2005 7:43:42 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: fieldmarshaldj
You "give it a rest", kid, and try to become more politically savvy.

With the right opponent ( which she won't have now ), Hillary would be beatable.

33 posted on 12/11/2005 7:43:53 PM PST by nopardons
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To: oceanview

The fact she was not a New Yorker was an issue in 2000, it is a non-issue now. The issue that she isn't interested in completing a 2nd term in order to run for President, however, IS an effective campaign issue. Here's hoping Mayor Spencer will exploit it greatly and offer a clearly different vision for New Yorkers than Hillary or Pirro would offer.


34 posted on 12/11/2005 7:44:37 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: oceanview
You're absolutely correct!

And did you notice that it's the non-New Yorkers who don't know a thing about N.Y. politics, who have the biggest mouths?

35 posted on 12/11/2005 7:45:29 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

You actually got one right for a change.


36 posted on 12/11/2005 7:45:40 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: oceanview

Exactly! You have nailed it but some folks on here cannot seem to get a clue. You are not going to elect conservatives in some states and the conservatives or nothing would rather see a liberal Dem get the position rather than vote for a moderate Republican.

Disgusting!


37 posted on 12/11/2005 7:46:05 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII MOM -- Istook for OK Governor in 2006!)
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To: Frank T

Bovine excrement !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


38 posted on 12/11/2005 7:46:21 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Frank T

but abortion is always the #1 issue the conservatives line up with. don't line up as pro-life, you are instantly a RINO. its the defining issue for that classification. and add gay rights to that.

so take someone who had the other positions you mention - tax cuts, fiscal conservative, pro judicial reform, etc - add pro-choice and/or gay rights to that, and they are instantly branded a RINO. you know it as well as I do, so don't tell me we can define a non-RINO candidate based on "other issues", we can't, we are trapped behind those two issues. that may be OK in a presidential race, but in a state like NY, it doesn't play - there is no massive "silent vote" waiting out there over that.


39 posted on 12/11/2005 7:46:44 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Frank T

More bovine excrement from the peanut gallery, I see.


40 posted on 12/11/2005 7:47:20 PM PST by nopardons
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