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“Scrooges”, “Grinches” and “Nice” organizations - CWA List of Christmas friendly retailers
Catholic News Agency ^ | December 9, 2005

Posted on 12/10/2005 7:00:21 AM PST by NYer

Washington DC, Dec. 09, 2005 (CNA) - Intervening in the heated debate about the mention of Christmas on the public square, Concerned Women for America (CWA) presented a first Christmas list showing which businesses are honouring the Reason for the Season (the birth of Jesus), which ones are not, and which have mixed records.

It first lists the corporation ‘Nice’ or friendly to the Original Christmas tradition.  This year Macy's joins the NICE list because it has returned the explicit mention of Christmas and Merry Christmas to its stores and its ads. L.L. Bean, on the other hand, just barely escapes the Grinch list and gets a middle rating because, while its first seasonal catalogue says Christmas 2005, all subsequent catalogues say Holiday 2005, culminating in the Best of Holiday 2005 (surrounded by Christmas items).

"More and more retailers are realizing, too late, that Christian consumers now understand that the constant use of 'happy holidays' and 'holiday' is grating and insulting," said Robert Knight, director of CWA's Culture & Family Institute. "It's an act of cultural cowardice and even an overt attack on Christmas and ultimately the Christian faith.

"When something is clearly about Christmas itself, it is dishonest to ban the very mention of Christmas on the grounds that it might offend a handful of people. This is a nation where surveys show 96 percent of the population celebrates Christmas. There is no survey showing that people of other faiths are insulted when the majority celebrate Christmas or wish anyone a 'Merry Christmas.'

"The tyranny of a tiny minority of Grinches to veto any mention of Christmas must stop," Knight concluded. "We are very encouraged that some major retailers like Macy's are starting to get it and hope that more will join them."

Following is a highlight of the whole list, set into three categories: ‘Nice’, ‘Somewhat Nice, somewhat naughty’and ‘Scrooges.’

NICE

 Macy’s, Chick-fil-A,Kroger, IHOP, Saks Off Fifth Avenue, Kay Jewelers, Capital One, Hobby Lobby, In-N-Out Burger

SOMEWHAT NICE, SOMEWHAT NAUGHTY

Walgreens, Wal-Mart, L.L. Bean, Sears, Lowe’s


 SCROOGES

Target, Office Max, Kmart, Staples, Home Depot, Best Buy, Kohlâs, BJ's, SC Johnson, Verizon, Radio Shack, Zales, Outback, Lexus, Old Navy, Cingular, Reckitt Benckiser, Pier 1, Red Lobster, Office Depot, Gillette, Applebee’s, Burlington Coat, Dell, Milton-Bradley, U.S. Postal Service, Costco


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1 posted on 12/10/2005 7:00:22 AM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 12/10/2005 7:01:01 AM PST by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: NYer

Best Buy? I was just there last night and they have Christmas coming out of every corner of their store. Maybe the stores are locally controlled and this is a reaction to one. Our local Starbucks has a huge 'happy holidays' sign, but it hasn't seemed to slow down traffic.. Saying Happy or Holidays or any combination of the two is in no way excluding the words Merry or Christmas or any combination of the two.


3 posted on 12/10/2005 7:09:37 AM PST by mnehring (Peace Activism is an Oxymoron.)
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To: NYer

No Christmas money for these stores...

Target, Office Max, Kmart, Staples, Home Depot, Best Buy, Kohlâs, BJ's, SC Johnson, Verizon, Radio Shack, Zales, Outback, Lexus, Old Navy, Cingular, Reckitt Benckiser, Pier 1, Red Lobster, Office Depot, Gillette, Applebee’s, Burlington Coat, Dell, Milton-Bradley, U.S. Postal Service, Costco



In addition to the Nice list - here are some alternative stores with similar merchandise for Christmas shopping: (If below needs correction due to incidents, please post)

P.C. Richard - buy.com - good alternative to Best Buy
Kay Jewelers - good alternative to ZALES
Modells - Good alternative to clothing Old Navy, Burlington Coat
On the Border, Friday's, Olive Garden? - Alternatives to Outback, Applebees, RedLobster -
Lowe's - Good Alternative to Home Depot
Vision Forum - Alternative to American Girl doll (VisionForum.com online shopping)

Bath and Body Works uses Christmas in their advertising. Went into that store yesterday and told management they would make lots of money from me this year because of their inclusiveness.


4 posted on 12/10/2005 7:11:26 AM PST by milford421
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To: milford421
No Christmas money for these stores...
I would suggest confirming if the 'scrooge' list is accurate first. Many stores have local control over promotions, and like I pointed out, my local Best Buy at least, is draped in the words Christmas from front to back.

In addition to the Nice list - here are some alternative stores with similar merchandise for Christmas

Some stores I've personally noticed should be on the 'Nice' list..

Cloths- Dillards Phones- Alltel Electronics- Circuit City Restaurants- Chili's, TGI Fridays, Cheddars, Olive Garden Cars- Mitsubishi, Chrysler Jewelry/Watches- Tiffanys, Tourneau
5 posted on 12/10/2005 7:22:27 AM PST by mnehring (Peace Activism is an Oxymoron.)
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To: NYer

The only naughty store I've shopped at is Costco, and I've tried to limit it.


6 posted on 12/10/2005 7:56:38 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Exalt the Lord our God, and worship at His footstool; He is holy. Ps 99:5)
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To: milford421
Bath and Body Works uses Christmas in their advertising. Went into that store yesterday and told management they would make lots of money from me this year because of their inclusiveness.

You're doing great so don't take this too hard, but I think you would do even better if you didn't use liberal terminology like "inclusiveness." Maybe just thank them for not being ashamed of the holiday that brings them so much business.

7 posted on 12/10/2005 7:59:06 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Exalt the Lord our God, and worship at His footstool; He is holy. Ps 99:5)
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To: NYer

I understand that Target got the message and has changed its policy. Can someone confirm?


8 posted on 12/10/2005 8:02:20 AM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: NYer

Sears has changed its policy. Sears has also been good to reservists who work for their company.


9 posted on 12/10/2005 8:03:17 AM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: mnehrling

I was in K-Mart yesterday (Branson, Missouri) and over the loud speaker in the store they wished all shoppers a "Merry Christmas." I was delighted to hear it.


10 posted on 12/10/2005 9:02:55 AM PST by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: mnehrling

All the mothers of kids in diapers should notice the very nice Pampers commerical where they sing Silent Night (real words)and just show pictures of babies sleeping. It really is a good commerical for the Christmas season. Buy your diapers from Pampers as a "thank you."


11 posted on 12/10/2005 9:07:21 AM PST by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: conservative blonde

Will stock the church nursery in Pampers.


12 posted on 12/10/2005 10:55:39 AM PST by buckeye4bush (buckeye4bush)
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To: NYer
I have been keeping track not only of the clerks that say Merry Christmas back to me, but also the restaurants and gas stations that have put up decorations this year. Only one local Speedway has a tree and decorations. Our Frisch's is nicely decorated.

Dollar General and Family Dollar have used the "C" word in their print ads. Our Sears has a printed out Marry Christmas sign on their door at the mall. Elder Beerman still is a Christmas place.

Those playing Christmas music are scarcer in our area. None at our Kroger. Meijer is only playing the music in their shoe department. Our Lowe's alternates Christmas music with regular oldies.
13 posted on 12/10/2005 11:07:32 AM PST by buckeye4bush (buckeye4bush)
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To: doug from upland

Sears won't let my daughter wish callers "Merry Christmas," even if the caller initiates it. She works for their financial services department. Be very wary about Sears.


14 posted on 12/10/2005 11:09:39 AM PST by Luke21 (Political correctness is the insane religion of our rulers.)
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To: Luke21

I spoke with a manager. When I asked about the Christmas signs I heard about, she was enthusiastically positive. She was also pleased to wish me Merry Christmas at the end of our conversation. Let's work on the financial services department. Do you have a phone number?


15 posted on 12/10/2005 11:22:10 AM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: NYer

Idea: For all of December, boycott stores that do not have a visible "Merry Christmas" sign.


16 posted on 12/10/2005 11:26:45 AM PST by Tax Government (Support the Ann Coulter Act of 2006. No free speech at colleges ==> no fed funds.)
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To: milford421
Went into that store yesterday and told management they would make lots of money from me this year because of their inclusiveness.

Just outside the local supermarket today, there was a Salvation Army bell ringer. When I dropped some change into the pot, he wished me a "Happy Holiday". A woman crossing the parking lot shot him a glare and said . . . "it's 'Merry Christmas', not 'Happy Holiday'". It seems people are getting serious about this. Good!

17 posted on 12/10/2005 2:20:20 PM PST by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: Tax Government
I heard that Hebrew Nation (hot dog maker) and the Mogen David winery both REFUSE to advertise with the word Christmas, instead opting for to just advertise for Hanukkah. Add them to the list!!

In all seriousness, I believe in promoting businesses that promote Christmas and avoid stores that have a policy of banning Christmas, HOWEVER, we shouldn't jump to conclusions and be rabid boycotters. The choice of the words, happy or holiday does not mean the store is actively excluding Christmas or Christians. Be careful in assigning motivation when one isn't known. Innocent businesses or people could be hurt.
18 posted on 12/10/2005 3:36:45 PM PST by mnehring (Peace Activism is an Oxymoron.)
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To: mnehrling

You're right; no need to become a fascist about Christmas. But the big chain stores that have plenty of opportunity to show a sign of Christmas here or there, that are trying to snuff it out wherever it appears, deserve a rap on the financial knuckles.

Just got back from taking 5-yr-old daughter help ring the Salvation Army bells in front of local Wal*Mart. Asked the little brass band there if they were from Salvation Army also and one said, "no, we're local community musicians." And there was a big whiteboard schedule showing local the community groups that were "manning" the Salvation Army pot for the next several days. So, it is indeed a broad community effort, and mostly but not explicitly Christian. From the standpoint of keeping the SA effort alive and representative of the community, maybe how it's being done is not a bad thing. Merry Christmas all.


19 posted on 12/10/2005 4:07:06 PM PST by Tax Government (Support the Ann Coulter Act of 2006. No free speech at colleges ==> no fed funds.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Yeah, me, too. Unfortunately, there is no replacement to COSTCO, either at Christmas time or year 'round.

I am irritated that they are among the most ardent financial contributors to the DNC and all things "progressive," however. I've tried expressing the simplest of constructive criticisms to their so-called Customer Service, but their nasty responses are ghastly (so abandoned even trying to do so).

Their checkers are as ill mannered and inconsiderate as no where else I've ever encountered, and yet, there I am every month, paying many hundreds of dollars for staples and such.

I really wish there was an alternative to COSTCO, but even trying Sam's Club left me wanting.

I started to say "Merry Christmas" to a Supervisor at COSTCO just a few days ago when last I was there -- they'd overcharged me for, of all things, Christmas Cards I'd just purchased and I had to get this Supervisor to refund the difference (cashier wouldn't/couldn't) -- and at the start of the words, he glared a very ugly glare my way and I just mumbled, "happy holidays" and left feeling badly.

COSTCO is going to eventually lose it's high place among shoppers given how it's become mostly the Berkeley of warehouses, and the ONLY thing that keeps me shopping there is that there are no alternatives to what they provide: decent-to-great goods in bulk at warehouse prices.


20 posted on 12/11/2005 3:02:23 AM PST by MillerCreek
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