Posted on 12/09/2005 2:52:39 PM PST by Mount Athos
THE eldest of four Pakistani gang rapist brothers has admitted lying at trial and apologised to his victims but said he thought he had a right to rape the "promiscuous" teenage girls.
MSK, 27, told the NSW Supreme Court yesterday that this was because the girls did not wear headscarves, were drinking alcohol and were unaccompanied when they went to his Ashfield home. MSK also blamed his intoxication, "cultural beliefs" and an undiagnosed mental disorder.
He and his brothers MAK, 25, MRK, 21, and MMK, 19 - who cannot be named for legal reasons - are serving between 10 and 22 years for raping two girls in 2002. All except MRK are yet to be sentenced for several other rapes.
Yesterday evidence was being heard on a sentence for MSK for the rapes of two more girls, TW, then 14, and CH, then 13. He admitted that some of the evidence he had given at an earlier trial was fabricated, particularly that he had had consensual sex with TW and that she had coaxed him.
"It was a pretty big untruth when you said that it was consensual sex, wasn't it?" asked the Crown prosecutor, Ken McKay.
"Yes," he replied.
You chose to lie about that, correct? - Yes.
During a long apology to TW, who was in court, he stopped mid-sentence to reprimand her.
"I wish to say this to [TW], that at the time when I commit these offences I come from such a background which led me to - don't shake your head, I'm telling you something - I say now that I hurt you and I'm extremely, extremely apologetic to you and I'm, I wish to say one thing more.
"I'm serving 22 years … I'm just requesting to you that you one day may come that you realise that the person who assaulted me is in prison … and I should forgive him. I'm asking for your forgiveness." He said it was only now, since he had gained a "better understanding of Australian culture", that he knew the rapes were wrong.
He arrived in Sydney for the ninth and final time four days before committing several rapes over six months. He had planned to study medicine.
He agreed he knew the girls did not want to have sex. "[TW] said no but I go ahead with it because I believe that at the time I commit these offences, I believe that she was promiscuous …" he said. "She don't know us, I don't know her, like she was not related to us and she was not wearing any purdah … like she was not … covered her face, she was not wearing any headscarf and she started drinking with us and she was singing.
"First off, I was actually, I was not taking my medication so I was under the influence of voices and secondly I believe at the time when I commit these offences that she had no right to say no."
Mr McKay said the voices excuse was a last-ditch strategy to avoid justice. "You wanted to hurt and terrorise these girls and you did that. You used acts of sexual intercourse on them."
The matter was adjourned until next Friday.
LOL yes.
But at least I don't insist it's only rain. ;o)
I'm about to have a urinary accident myself...ROTFLMBO! I'll be back in a minute.
Ewww... LOL... I had to draw the line somewhere... and never provided him with virgins to test his vows of chastity with either.
That's a very likely story, nudge nudge wink wink, give me two virgins to sleep with so I can prove I have overcome all my earthly desires...some people are just so gullible there's not much else they can do but join Amnesty International...
And go around pissing on people's shoes...
Chilling. Locked and loaded in FL. Actually its a Glock 19 so its not locked but there's no round in the chamber ... :-(
Pardon me if I do not salute you - I'll be kicking the drippy remnants of the guilty party with my big-ass, vibram-soled, size 13, 10" high Danner-Ft Lewis "Go-Devil" boots!
Pizza/beverages after we wash up, 'k?!
(then we can salute ourselves)
A.A.C.
"The Final Crusade has commenced - and I'm feeling warlike and aggravated."
I might also suggest a trip to the Netherlands...or France or Germany...
Be sure and visit a "dish city" {unless you're a woman}, but do not stay too long, dhimmi-wit.
My month plus in the states of EUrabia showed me a rather vivid fraction of the extent of the problem. Even as I posted updates from the cobbled streets and belltowers, trouble was brewing and unfolding in towns near and far, and mere blocks away from me.
These churlish goat molesters - especially the Moroccan males of the species in Nederlands - care nothing for the succor offered to them by their host nations - hell, they spit in the faces of the "dirty kuffar" - both figuratively, and literally!
Of course, sometimes they shoot them, slash their throats and stab them in the chest, and other times they rape the schoolgirls {don't worry your silly little head, though, it's only the slutty teasers, the promiscuous-looking ones that really were "asking for it" by not being covered head to toenails in black burlap!} and then beat them severely.
Others are worthy girlfriend material - until ahmed gets a jealous twitch, and then justifiably throws the woman and her child over a fifth floor apartment balcony to their deaths...
Culturally, you just really need to comprehend that it is okay because it pleases alla-uzza, and it is within paedophile false prophet muHamMad's codified set of "Useful Exceptions to Inconvenient Rules of Civilised Behaviour" - in the subsection on 1,001 justifications for abusing, raping, and/or executing accursed women, or something like that...
A.A.C.
"The Final Crusade has commenced - time for a few tightly grouped, copper-jacketed commencement exercises!"
Give me the name of your travel agent, I could use a holiday like that myself...
Hardly
It is you who have missed the point, and rather thoroughly, I might add. I have forgotten more about scripture and the study of {including taking it to heart} than you yet know.
Your stubborn, ill-founded insistence that you know what scholars - including former muslims - do not, is astonishing in its outright hubris.
I did not say islime is a death cult religion - I am not half that stupid.
Let me clarify this once more, as I do not suffer fools gladly!
Islam is not a religion - not of any legitimate sort. It IS a Death Cult, and nothing other.
What moose-limbs believe about Jesus Christ had damned well BETTER become relevant to you, you insolent dullard, for it is precisely those divergences which they believe gives them not just license, but exhortation to kill you violently, and without mercy. Jesus does not love muhammad - muhammad heard "Mene, Mene, Tekel upharsin.
The whole of the suras of the qur'an, and the hadiths of moo-Ham-Mad and subsequent Caliphs are a contextual backdrop of fraudulent religious justification for rape, murder, plunder, hatred, and all the base,sinful instincts of mankind.
Anyone CAN quote religious text out of context; you did in a feeble effort to illustrate a moot point {moot in that the qur'an is so plagiarised and bastardised from its roots, that it is NOT a religious text, but a hateful, agenda-driven revision of convenience, a manifesto of destruction and mayhem. The person to whom you responded did not misquote, nor take out of context the suras of the qur'an.
Just because you do not know the full, true context yourself, and do not like that his presentation conflicted with your desired warm, fuzzy, rose-tinted view of a maniacal Death Cult, does not mean that it WAS out of context. Anyone can, but he didn't!
Back to remedial religion class, rookie. Leave the parsing to the professionals.
A.A.C.
"The Final Crusade has commenced - give your favorite Death-Cultist the gift that shows you care, give them a dirt nap today, before someone else does!"
"In Spain a strict prohibition was issued against the study of Greek philosophy, and many valuable works were committed to the flames. Soon after the rule of the Moors in Spain began to decline. The study of philosophy came to an end, and liberal culture sank under the pressure of the hard and fast dogmatic system of Islam."
http://muhammadanism.org
Ouch...
truth!!!
Even the rapist has admitted that these rapes were based on a cultural misunderstanding (i.e. he felt justified under islam). Why do you deny what he freely admits?
Most deballed PC uber-alles Westerners will never get it, will never fight back. Never. They will be paying the dhimmi tax or praying to the black moon god rock within a generation.
I'm pretty sure that K = Khan
What has a Malaysian ever done to you?
Malaysians in and of themselves? Nothing.
Muslims? Well, let's see. They refer to me as an infidel. Their fellow muslims kill other Americans that had I been in the right, rather wrong place, at the wrong time, I wouldn't be here writing this. They'd kill me in a NY second as well without so much as thinking.
I'm sure that my life wouldn't be worth a plug nickel if I decided to fly to a muslim controlled country, or most of them, and take a stroll down their streets.
There are plenty of justifications in their "religious" source, the Koran, for suppressing me, forcing me to treat them as superiors, and even for killing me.
I'm sure I could think of a few other things too but time is limited.
Other than that, nothing!
Q for you? What does your big defense of such people stem from? And why do you suppose it is that all the "good" muslims never make an outcry anywhere when innocent non-muslims are killed?
The closest thing I've seen to an outcry is Jordan's recent response to their hotel attacks. But those took out primarily muslims. So who knows what would have happend had all those killed been westerners or Americans.
No, no one's going to get rid of a billion muslims. But the day will come when you remember that comment and have some different thoughts than you're now entertaining.
If a female was raped due to her not maintaining the laws of Hijaab, she is partly to be blamed as the rapist will be considered as being seduced by her revealing form and shape. She should make Tawbah (sincerely repent) by also adhering to the laws of Hijaab.and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT.
You see, it' a little known fact outside of muslum nations, that the islamic slave rag is in fact, a magical anti-rape marker to brand your property with, in the way someone may brand an animal.
Did you know that Malaysian passports are stamped "This passport is valid for all countries, except Israel."
Did you know that Jews are not welcome in malaysia?
Do you think islam may have something to do with it:
According to a report narrated by Muslim from Abu Hurayrah, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The Hour [the Day of Judgement] will not begin until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them. A Jew will hide behind a rock or a tree, and the rock or tree will say, ‘O Muslim, O slave of Allaah! There is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!’ – except for the gharqad (box thorn), for it is one of the trees of the Jews.” (Reported by Muslim, 2922).
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