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Gang rapist claims right to assault
Sydney Morning Herald (Australia) ^ | December 10, 2005 | Natasha Wallace

Posted on 12/09/2005 2:52:39 PM PST by Mount Athos

THE eldest of four Pakistani gang rapist brothers has admitted lying at trial and apologised to his victims but said he thought he had a right to rape the "promiscuous" teenage girls.

MSK, 27, told the NSW Supreme Court yesterday that this was because the girls did not wear headscarves, were drinking alcohol and were unaccompanied when they went to his Ashfield home. MSK also blamed his intoxication, "cultural beliefs" and an undiagnosed mental disorder.

He and his brothers MAK, 25, MRK, 21, and MMK, 19 - who cannot be named for legal reasons - are serving between 10 and 22 years for raping two girls in 2002. All except MRK are yet to be sentenced for several other rapes.

Yesterday evidence was being heard on a sentence for MSK for the rapes of two more girls, TW, then 14, and CH, then 13. He admitted that some of the evidence he had given at an earlier trial was fabricated, particularly that he had had consensual sex with TW and that she had coaxed him.

"It was a pretty big untruth when you said that it was consensual sex, wasn't it?" asked the Crown prosecutor, Ken McKay.

"Yes," he replied.

You chose to lie about that, correct? - Yes.

During a long apology to TW, who was in court, he stopped mid-sentence to reprimand her.

"I wish to say this to [TW], that at the time when I commit these offences I come from such a background which led me to - don't shake your head, I'm telling you something - I say now that I hurt you and I'm extremely, extremely apologetic to you and I'm, I wish to say one thing more.

"I'm serving 22 years … I'm just requesting to you that you one day may come that you realise that the person who assaulted me is in prison … and I should forgive him. I'm asking for your forgiveness." He said it was only now, since he had gained a "better understanding of Australian culture", that he knew the rapes were wrong.

He arrived in Sydney for the ninth and final time four days before committing several rapes over six months. He had planned to study medicine.

He agreed he knew the girls did not want to have sex. "[TW] said no but I go ahead with it because I believe that at the time I commit these offences, I believe that she was promiscuous …" he said. "She don't know us, I don't know her, like she was not related to us and she was not wearing any purdah … like she was not … covered her face, she was not wearing any headscarf and she started drinking with us and she was singing.

"First off, I was actually, I was not taking my medication so I was under the influence of voices and secondly I believe at the time when I commit these offences that she had no right to say no."

Mr McKay said the voices excuse was a last-ditch strategy to avoid justice. "You wanted to hurt and terrorise these girls and you did that. You used acts of sexual intercourse on them."

The matter was adjourned until next Friday.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: australia; gangrape; islam; liar; lie; moslemssuck; muslim; muslimlies; pakistan; rape; rapejihad; religionoflies; religionofrape; rop; swine; trop
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To: instantgratification
But the gross Islamophobic generalizations in this thread need to be refuted.

Why? Better yet why buy your premise that there are gross islamophobic generalizations let alone any islamophobic generalizations in this thread. But wait -why buy your premise that there is such a thing as islamophobia?

You are an ineffective troll -I suggest you find a new hobby...

81 posted on 12/09/2005 6:11:27 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: instantgratification

What's your point here. None of those verses condone rape.

It instructs men to MARRY the captive and if the marriage is displeasing, she must be set free, not returned to slavery.

The second allows slavery of captives.

The third instructs that slaves may not be punished by death for adultery because they are slaves and can't consent.


82 posted on 12/09/2005 7:43:58 PM PST by Valpal1 (Crush jihadists, drive collaborators before you, hear the lamentations of their media. Allahu FUBAR!)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg; Fred Nerks; ariamne; jan in Colorado; Dark Skies; Former Dodger; USF

>The time of civilization is quickly passing I fear, soon the animals shall hold sway.<

No so long as there are firearms and ammunition within my reach. There are others who are similarly inclined and prepared to defend our civilised American way of life. We will even save the leftists' butts - whether they like it or not!

A.A.C.

"The Final Crusade has commenced; praise the Lord and pass the ammunition - got muzzies?!"


83 posted on 12/09/2005 7:46:13 PM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: AmericanArchConservative
I'm with you 100% my FRiend, except for this last statement...

"We will even save the leftists' butts..."

At this point, I'm willing to see these traitorous commies go down with the rest of the America-hating, Freedom- hating ROP followers.

84 posted on 12/09/2005 7:54:54 PM PST by jan in Colorado (Cowards cut and run, Marines never do!)
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To: Mount Athos
Sidebar: Under Sharia Law it takes four eye witnesses to convict of RAPE.. i.e. 4 eye witnesses of course would almost always be the very ones committing the gang rape..

So much for HOLY Sharia Law.. takes a bit of reading to ascertain that there is ZERO, Nada, Nothing HOLY in Islam.. Islam is in fact a social disease not on the body on on the society.. Islam is Political Gonorrhea or worse....

85 posted on 12/09/2005 7:58:59 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Fred Nerks; instantgratification

Heheh... And there I was, still thinking about the rantings of a sandmonkey.


86 posted on 12/09/2005 8:03:09 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: jan in Colorado; Fred Nerks; USF; Former Dodger; Dark Skies; broadsword; ariamne

ROTFLM*O!

Well it's just so much easier to deal with one problem at a time. Eliminate the muhammadan threat from the face of the planet first, and perhaps that will impress the loony capitulators sufficiently that they will be very, very quiet, for a long, long time! If not - hey, we still have our ahem* "resources" close at hand, right?!

Thanks for the "welcome back"...love ya!

A.A.C.

"The Final Crusade has commenced - once again the left will have to wait their turn, and hope we are feeling charitable when we're done!"


87 posted on 12/09/2005 8:04:50 PM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: AmericanArchConservative
Well it's just so much easier to deal with one problem at a time.

Way too logical for me. ;o) I'm ready to stir things up...

88 posted on 12/09/2005 8:17:27 PM PST by jan in Colorado (Cowards cut and run, Marines never do!)
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To: jan in Colorado
I'm ready to stir things up...

Heheh. Me too!

89 posted on 12/09/2005 8:27:03 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Mount Athos
MSK, 27...and his brothers MAK, 25, MRK, 21, and MMK

Gee...I wonder what the "M" means. < / sarc >

90 posted on 12/09/2005 8:28:52 PM PST by krb (ad hominem arguments are for stupid people)
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To: jan in Colorado
I'm ready to stir things up.

LOL! Me three!

Thanks for the ping.

91 posted on 12/09/2005 8:29:27 PM PST by NexusBlue (Mo is da profit!)
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To: NexusBlue

You're welcome!

Whose tag did you steal this time? ;oP


92 posted on 12/09/2005 8:36:48 PM PST by jan in Colorado (Cowards cut and run, Marines never do!)
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To: jan in Colorado
Hey, I never steal taglines! I borrow them.

My Imam was nice enough to leave one out behind the back door of his mosque in NY.
93 posted on 12/09/2005 8:41:38 PM PST by NexusBlue (Blowing up for virgins in paradise = Islamic instant gratification)
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To: jan in Colorado

We won't have to save them, the majority will follow. They're cowards, remember?


94 posted on 12/09/2005 8:47:37 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks
I don't think they will follow. They will do all they can to sabotage this Country and they need to be taken down just like the murderous cult. They are an enemy of Freedom and I consider them, as well as the ENEMEDIA, traitors!
95 posted on 12/09/2005 8:55:22 PM PST by jan in Colorado (Cowards cut and run, Marines never do!)
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To: jan in Colorado

Oh sorry, I'm speaking from a different POV. You see, I have the next US election already in the bag for the Republicans. The Dems have been whipped, their platform has been a total embarrasment. Dean is seeing a psychiatrist, Kerry and his ketchup Queen are living in France, Teddy Kennedy fell off his yacht and as no one could haul his bulk back on board, he drowned. The Klintoons are living in a trailer park in Arkansas. Iraq discovered more oil and can't build schools and hospitals fast enough, Osama's bones have been found, he died arms wrapped around a comely female camel named Fatima...and the grateful people of the US gave George and Laura Bush a ticker tape parade down Fifth Avenue on the day he handed over the reins to the Republican Whitehouse and headed off to this beloved ranch in Texas. Every european leader signed a farewell letter to President Bush, with the message; Dear George, We are profoundly grateful and deeply sorry we misunderestimated you...


96 posted on 12/09/2005 9:13:57 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks
ROTFLMHO

I love you Fred!

97 posted on 12/09/2005 9:17:48 PM PST by jan in Colorado (Cowards cut and run, Marines never do!)
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To: AmericanArchConservative
I guess you have more faith than I do A.A.C. Every time I turn around one more chunk of the civilized world is eaten away by mohammed's murderous minions (and his willing servants among the leftists). It's hard to be hopeful when so many are actively seeking the destruction of everything good and decent in the world.

I'll be right there beside you when the time comes though. I may be getting older and slower, but this dog hasn't lost it's bite yet.
98 posted on 12/09/2005 9:30:08 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Whats with the Marquis of Queensbury Rules bullsh*t, we fight for our very survival! Fight Dirty!)
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To: instantgratification; calex59
No - The four witnesses are required to prove adultery, not rape.

Really?

NA rejects bill to amend Hudood Ord

By Mohammad Imran

ISLAMABAD: The National Assembly (NA) rejected a bill on Tuesday proposing amendments to the Offence of Zina (Enforcement of Hudood) Ordinance 1979, which requires a rape victim to present four male witnesses to substantiate her claim.

99 posted on 12/09/2005 9:34:01 PM PST by milestogo
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To: instantgratification
And as for standing and watching during a gang rape, that happens pretty much everywhere.

Not around here it doesn't. That's why I have a carry permit and a liberals worst nightmare in .45 caliber.

I ever see a woman getting raped, there's going to be more than her on the ground bleeding from points of involuntary penetration. I promise you that.
100 posted on 12/09/2005 9:40:35 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Whats with the Marquis of Queensbury Rules bullsh*t, we fight for our very survival! Fight Dirty!)
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