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TRY AGAIN, MR. PRESIDENT -- THOSE WERE EMPTY WORDS [The Presidnet's Amnesty Program]
Neal Boortz ^ | Nov. 29, 2005 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 11/29/2005 5:25:04 AM PST by conservativecorner

Yesterday, George W. Bush strode to a podium in Tucson, Arizona (I love Tucson!) and against a backdrop of law enforcement officers, announced his latest plan to crack down on illegal aliens. There was nothing in his speech we haven't heard before, and his new immigration policy is just as contradictory as the old one. Among the initiatives announced:

We should build more jail cells to hold illegal aliens. Good idea. The speeding up of deportations, a crackdown on fraudulent identity papers, and a hardening of the border with more surveillance. So far, so good. Then the nonsense started to flow. The president urged Congress to pass his guest-worker amnesty program and repeated the nonsense that the illegal aliens are here "to fill jobs that Americans will not do."

Same old, same old. It is impossible to stand there and say you're going to crack down on illegal immigration while at the same time say that you are going to reward people who broke our immigration laws. The president says it's not amnesty. Ok, now we've finally caught the president in a lie. OF COURSE it's amnesty! When you tell someone who has broken the law that you are not only going to ignore their illegal conduct, but you are actually going to reward them for it, then you have more than plain old garden variety amnesty, you have amnesty with perks!

As for the oft-repeated line that the illegal aliens fill jobs Americans won't, that's also a load. Companies may not be able to fill those jobs with Americans at the same low wages they pay Mexicans, but there are plenty of people in this country that would do the work at the right price. OK .. so the price of headless chickens, landscaping and construction might go up, but at least the people receiving those paychecks would be law-abiding residents of this country, most of whom would be citizens. There is something wrong with the idea of celebrating lower home prices when those lower prices are brought with disrespect for the laws of our country. It gets worse than that. We are threatening our very security by singing the praises of illegal aliens in our workforce. Just two weeks ago we were interviewing a Texas congressman who was telling us that U.S. intelligence agencies have knowledge that Al Qaeda terrorists have moved to Mexico, adopted Hispanic identities, learned the Spanish language, and then moved right into the United States across our porous borders.

George Bush failed to address the problem appropriately yesterday, but this isn't strictly a George Bush issue. There is absolutely no willingness on the part of either political party to crack down on illegal immigration. There are simply too many votes to be had in the Hispanic community. So as a result, our security as a nation is threatened and our cities and states are overrun with illegal aliens.

I'm sure representatives of Al-Qaeda are preparing to apply for their guest-worker permits as we speak.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Nevada; US: New Mexico; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; boortz; buchananites; bushbashers; daneisanassclown; immigrantlist; immigrationplan; immigrationspeech; xenophobs
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To: Fawn
I believe there is another reason why he wants Amnesty for these lawbreakers....wish I could figure out his real angle.

There are two reasons that I can see. First, simple political hispandering. Second, the belief that putting a cork in Mexico's poverty-mill pressure cooker will touch off a revolution in the kleptocracy on our border.

141 posted on 11/29/2005 6:55:41 AM PST by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: TXBSAFH
I have been up since 0230 feeding babies and getting ready for work......

Ouch. Been there - done that - five times. You have my sympathies...

142 posted on 11/29/2005 6:57:14 AM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: Sterco; jackv
If you think [Ellis Island] says "Bring me your illegal aliens with no desire to assimilate and a wish to take advantage of the citizens of this country" Then maybe it is time to box it up and send it back to France.

If they're assimilating, then is that better?

143 posted on 11/29/2005 6:57:16 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: conservativecorner

We have an unemployment rate of around 5% currently, representing about 600,000 people unemployed.

If 1,000,000 illegals (assumed working out of 11 million), who have taken jobs from Americans, are deported immediately, we have a shortfall of approx 400,000 workers to fill the jobs. Where do these workers come from?


144 posted on 11/29/2005 6:57:42 AM PST by RTINSC (What, Me Worry?..My company offers French benefits...)
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To: untrained skeptic

Don't bring rational thought and solutions to this thread. You will not leave aliiiiiive!


145 posted on 11/29/2005 6:58:50 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: LexBaird
Second, the belief that putting a cork in Mexico's poverty-mill pressure cooker will touch off a revolution in the kleptocracy on our border.

I still think that's the real reason for all of this - trying to stave off the emergence of a Hugo Chavez II on our southern border by encouraging disgruntled potential revolutionaries come to America instead and learn the benefits of a capitalist economy.

146 posted on 11/29/2005 6:59:34 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When government does too much, nobody else does much of anything." -- Mark Steyn)
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To: Mo1
I'm from Philly and 98% of the crime here is committed by legal residents

Ah, so that means it's Tuscon's problem, and they should just "suck it up and shut up". Got it.
147 posted on 11/29/2005 7:00:49 AM PST by beezdotcom (Xenalyte has posted! Please observe five seconds of respectful silence.........thank you.)
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To: untrained skeptic

Small companies like "Iowa Beef, Monfort, Excel, Tyson, and Con-Agra" to name a few right?


148 posted on 11/29/2005 7:01:30 AM PST by Sterco
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To: beezdotcom
Ah, so that means it's Tuscon's problem, and they should just "suck it up and shut up". Got it.

Gee .. I don't recall saying that

But hey, nice try

149 posted on 11/29/2005 7:02:37 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: MNJohnnie

"Whaaaa!!!! He is NOT doing what I WANT! WHAAAAA! Same song 10,000th verse.,Can the Whine all the Time Choir find something else to whine about yet?"

Remind me to tell you that next time a liberal does something you don't like.

Good luck marginalizing us - those who want the border controlled are the now majority.


150 posted on 11/29/2005 7:03:46 AM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: sam_paine
If they're assimilating, then is that better?

Assimilation would at least make the problem more palatable, and reduce some of the cultural hostility. Unfortunately, I see much evidence that assimilation is pretty low on the priority list for many illegals - especially when our government seems to bend over backwards to make it easy to NOT assimilate.
151 posted on 11/29/2005 7:04:37 AM PST by beezdotcom (Xenalyte has posted! Please observe five seconds of respectful silence.........thank you.)
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To: ConsentofGoverned
You left out CFR, the nullification of free speech.
152 posted on 11/29/2005 7:05:33 AM PST by drypowder
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To: conservativecorner
TRUTH!!! Shape up GW. We don't like your mealy mouth lip service to enforcement. We've fooled too many times by lies (not just yours) about enforcing our immigration and deportation laws.

Build an Israeli style border fence then I'll believe you. Start enforcing at least some employer sanctions then I'll believe you.

God bless America the sovereign nation. We are not Latin America or Mexico. We are America. I'm tired of this invasion from Mexico and points south

 

 

ISRAEL'S FENCE:

Israel's multiple fence, border fence system. This fence is designed to succeed!! Sensors, surveillance cameras, lots of barbed wire, ditches to stop vehicles from ramming through it, paved access roads for fast armed response etc etc.

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153 posted on 11/29/2005 7:05:59 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: MNJohnnie

"Oh yeah this constant 100% hyper criticism of our own side really helps move the agenda. But that right! The Whine all the Time Choir thinks it "helps" by doing the Democrats PR dirty work 100% of the time."

How does it help "move the agenda" by adopting the DEMS AGENDA of open borders and big government programs and big spending, like Bush has done?

If I were a lib, I'd get on and say exactly what you are. Since I'm not, I'm gonna call you and your defeatist buddies on it.


154 posted on 11/29/2005 7:06:08 AM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Mo1
Oh, so the whole Philly crime stat was merely a non-sequitur? Got it.
155 posted on 11/29/2005 7:06:23 AM PST by beezdotcom (Xenalyte has posted! Please observe five seconds of respectful silence.........thank you.)
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To: sam_paine
Don't bring rational thought and solutions to this thread. You will not leave aliiiiiive!

I've noticed that happening on many of these immigration/illegal threads

rational thought and solutions need not apply

156 posted on 11/29/2005 7:06:27 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: beezdotcom

whatever


157 posted on 11/29/2005 7:06:54 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: sam_paine

It is still bad if they assimilate. Not near as aggravating as having them driving up and down your streets on "Cinco de Mayo" waving Mexican flags and letting their illegal presence be known. Or having employers in your area say "Those who are not bi-lingual need not apply".


158 posted on 11/29/2005 7:08:01 AM PST by Sterco
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To: Mo1

"It's the same old same old and a HUGE reason why I normally avoid the immigration threads"

You just don't like being in the minority opinion on Illegal Immigration issues.

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159 posted on 11/29/2005 7:08:23 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: RTINSC
If 1,000,000 illegals (assumed working out of 11 million), who have taken jobs from Americans, are deported immediately, we have a shortfall of approx 400,000 workers to fill the jobs. Where do these workers come from?

Employer sanctions is the key. Enforce existing law and they will self deport gradually. Restaurants, hotels, motels, construction will howl. I could give a crap. Only illegal aliens I would allow would be in agriculture

160 posted on 11/29/2005 7:09:26 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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