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Missile Attack On Passenger Jet?
Radio News | November 28, 2005

Posted on 11/28/2005 4:49:25 AM PST by texianyankee

I heard on the radio this morning, that a pilot of a passenger jet departing LAX claimed to have narrowly avoided being hit by a missile. It was reported that the jet was about 6,000 feet in altitude & over the ocean when the event occurred. The news report further stated that authorities believe it was possibly a flare or a "bottle rocket."

I googled but found nothing. Anyone else have some info on this? I dont recall whether it was CBS or NBC radio news.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aa; aa612; airlinesecurity; flight621; lax; missile; missilenotmissle; passengerjet; terrorism
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To: Southack
One of our military aircraft accidentally flew into the Empire State building during WW2, killing several people

True, but that was in the fog, not on a CAVU early fall day. Even if the autopilot (coupled to the INS or GPS system) went totally amok, the pilots would be able to disconnect it, in the extreme by pulling the circuit breaker. They wouldn't just let their aircraft fly into the WTC. The altitude was low enough that a pressurization failure would not have knocked them out, as has occurred at other times. For another thing, the terrorists had turned off the transponder beacon, but the ATC system was still tracking the aircraft via "skin return", if somewhat sporadically. They knew they had other aircraft with no transponder returns as well, even before the first aircraft hit the WTC.

It wasn't impossible that it was an accident, given only the weather and the fact of the aircraft hitting the building, but a deliberate act was much more likely, even before the second aircraft hit the tower.

461 posted on 11/30/2005 8:43:25 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Great Caesars Ghost
I've long thought that what two fellows with a beat up old car and a .30-06 rifle

If you mean Chief Moose's DC's "sniper". Those gents were using a plain Jane Bushmaster AR-15 clone, in 5.56 X 45, not a 30-06. A 30-06 would have been much messier.

462 posted on 11/30/2005 8:50:25 PM PST by El Gato
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To: texianyankee
I wish there was a link to something that could show this actually was reported as an incident. So far, all we got is verbal.

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/home.htm

Originally linked from:
Mel's KSFO site

Unfortunately it seems to be what intell types call an "echo" from reports on this thread! Oh Well.

463 posted on 11/30/2005 9:34:01 PM PST by El Gato
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To: dcam

The last time I flew in and out of SNA was in a mid size corporate jet and we never got over the water. I don't recall any 737's being over the water either.


464 posted on 11/30/2005 9:58:25 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: texianyankee

1:40 AM and a caller to the program Coast to Coast just calloed in to report the attempt to hit a plane on the 29th. This is in response to a prediction of a terrorist attack on that date...Neil had reported that the event seemed to be a "miss" from a psychic he had had on a previous show.

Comment was that it would be quite a thing if proven and the show went on.

Coasttocoast.com is supposed to have "streamlink" and you can listen to past shows?

We may not be the only ones working on this! Was that one of our group calling?

The caller did not seem to repeat any of the cautious comments from this thread. He went right to the attempt to down a plane.


465 posted on 11/30/2005 10:58:55 PM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: Kay Ludlow

I work at FAA in Chicago. Three years ago, there was a report of pilots seeing "something come out of the water" off the coast of FL and form contrails that shot out heading Northeast over the US. NORAD scrambled jet fighters to intercept. They had the contrail headed fast and high but the jets couldn't keep up.

NORAD had said there would be an investigation. So far...no result.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/Central/11/28/contrail.scramble/index.html


466 posted on 11/30/2005 11:08:26 PM PST by endthematrix (Those who despise freedom and progress have condemned themselves to isolation, decline, and collapse)
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To: 3D-JOY; A CA Guy; tertiary01; Velveeta; Centurion2000; sam_paine; dljordan; Jigsaw John; All

Bump to my immediately previous post since you have seemed interested!


467 posted on 11/30/2005 11:09:05 PM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: endthematrix

check my post 465

I am listening for any other callers


468 posted on 11/30/2005 11:11:02 PM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: 3D-JOY

I think we'll have to listen to Art's long time guest General George Jameson before we'll ever know then.


469 posted on 11/30/2005 11:58:56 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: 3D-JOY

I will listen to that call tomorrow...and maybe post it.


470 posted on 12/01/2005 12:56:26 AM PST by BurbankKarl (NRA EPL)
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To: B4Ranch

I do this quite frequently in a B737. They do a high-rate climb, then chop the throttle and limp out over the ocean before they add power back. Noise abatement procedures.


471 posted on 12/01/2005 1:51:47 AM PST by rivercat (Welcome to California. Now go home.)
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To: endthematrix

bump for later.


472 posted on 12/01/2005 2:24:39 AM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: A CA Guy

The show is a hoot sometimes and a good way to pass the time when I am not sleepy. The callers are so serious sometimes I wonder who left the phone unattended at the asylum!


473 posted on 12/01/2005 5:37:16 AM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: dcam; B4Ranch
high-rate climb, then chop the throttle and limp out over the ocean

Ugh I HATE the bastards with the noise abatement rules!

Christ! When in that vulnerable time....I WANT ALTITUDE....FAST! I'm no pilot, but I've heard "altitude is life" and I believe that's more important than someone's morning snooze.

474 posted on 12/01/2005 5:42:25 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: texianyankee

Thanks for the update.


475 posted on 12/01/2005 6:44:47 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: 3D-JOY

Thank you for the ping.


476 posted on 12/01/2005 6:48:37 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: LucyT

Ping


477 posted on 12/01/2005 6:55:06 AM PST by WestCoastGal
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To: 3D-JOY

Bump to ALL to prove this "story" continues!


478 posted on 12/01/2005 8:33:57 AM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: El Gato; 3D-JOY; dcam; B4Ranch; All

Thanks for the posts.


479 posted on 12/01/2005 8:36:18 AM PST by tertiary01
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To: 3D-JOY

They sure get their fair share of serious loons.


480 posted on 12/01/2005 1:10:05 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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