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Newton more important than Einstein: poll
PhysOrg.com ^ | 23 November 2005 | Staff

Posted on 11/23/2005 6:04:12 PM PST by PatrickHenry

Newton, the 17th-century English scientist most famous for describing the laws of gravity and motion, beat Einstein in two polls conducted by eminent London-based scientific academy, the Royal Society.

More than 1,300 members of the public and 345 Royal Society scientists were asked separately which famous scientist made a bigger overall contribution to science, given the state of knowledge during his time, and which made a bigger positive contribution to humankind.

Newton was the winner on all counts, though he beat the German-born Einstein by only 0.2 of a percentage point (50.1 percent to 49.9 percent) in the public poll on who made the bigger contribution to mankind.


Albert Einstein may have made the discoveries that led to nuclear and solar power, lasers and even a physical description of space and time, but Sir Isaac Newton had a greater impact on science and mankind, according to a poll published Wednesday.

The margin was greater among scientists: 60.9 percent for Newton and 39.1 percent for Einstein.

The results were announced ahead of the "Einstein vs. Newton" debate, a public lecture at the Royal Society on Wednesday evening.

"Many people would say that comparing Newton and Einstein is like comparing apples and oranges, but what really matters is that people are appreciating the huge amount that both these physicists achieved, and that their impact on the world stretched far beyond the laboratory and the equation," said Royal Society president Lord Peter May.

Pro-Newton scientists argue he led the transition from an era of superstition and dogma to the modern scientific method.

His greatest work, the "Principia Mathematica", showed that gravity was a universal force that applied to all objects in the universe, finally ruling out the belief that the laws of motion were different for objects on Earth and in the heavens.

Einstein's supporters point out that his celebrated theory of relativity disproved Newton's beliefs on space and time and led to theories about the creation of the universe, black holes and parallel universes.

He also proved mathematically that atoms exist and that light is made of particles called photons, setting the theoretical foundations for nuclear bombs and solar power.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: alberteinstein; crevolist; einstein; isaacnewton; newton; physics; principia; science
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To: PatrickHenry
Newton vs Einstein

1. Who was better dressed?
2. Who had better hair?
3. Who was more handsome?
4. Who got more action with the chicks?

21 posted on 11/23/2005 6:20:42 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Paging Nehemiah Scudder:the Crazy Years are peaking. America is ready for you.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Pro-Newton scientists argue he led the transition from an era of superstition and dogma to the modern scientific method.

This gets my vote. As I write, this battle is still being waged.

Einstein is like a fine wine that needs to be aged before the full impact of his ideas can be appreciated.

22 posted on 11/23/2005 6:20:45 PM PST by ml1954 (NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads)
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To: WillamShakespeare

Your picture did more for my theories of relativity than Einstein ever did. Snicker...


23 posted on 11/23/2005 6:21:27 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: PatrickHenry
I can see it. Newton practically invented dynamics. There were some bits and pieces from Galileo and Kepler, but Newton was incredible. Then, he also did important work in optics and mathematics.
24 posted on 11/23/2005 6:21:29 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
That was a great invention, but it made the world a lot more dangerous than it was before things started falling. It did get all those damn leaves out of the air, though. That's when people discovered the stars.

That is really funny!

25 posted on 11/23/2005 6:21:31 PM PST by phantomworker (A new day! Begin it serenely; with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense!)
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To: PatrickHenry
Was there ever any doubt?

Newton was the greatest scientist/mathematician of all time. He has no serious competitors. This guy invented calculus and gave us the method for computing the motion of the planets around the sun, navigating to the moon (with a little tweak from Albert) and the flight of a bullet. Amazing.

I think he died a virgin. Someone should check that out. If so it just goes to show how much more we could accomplish if we weren't being distracted all the time by the ladies.

26 posted on 11/23/2005 6:22:26 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: AngrySpud
Let`s see ... a bunch of English scientists vote for the English scientist.

You're suggesting a bias then?

27 posted on 11/23/2005 6:24:16 PM PST by phantomworker (A new day! Begin it serenely; with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense!)
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To: PatrickHenry
Albert Einstein (to his wife): " Look, dear, I've arrived at the theory of relativity! E = mc cubed!"

Mrs. Einstein: "mc cubed? Albert, haven't I told you not to drink and derive?"

28 posted on 11/23/2005 6:25:46 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina (I've upped my standards! Up yours!)
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To: A. Pole
Still the greatest is Aristotle.

Right. Heavier things fall faster. He didn't even run experiments to see whether or not it was true or when it was true. What's an experiment?

29 posted on 11/23/2005 6:26:18 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: PatrickHenry
So what did Newton do?

Write the Principia, define the laws of motion, invent calculus, invent the Newtonian telescope, figure out gravity, and on and on.

What a showoff.

(P.S. An American poll would have probably named Bill Nye as history's greatest scientist.)

30 posted on 11/23/2005 6:26:38 PM PST by Semi Civil Servant
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To: PatrickHenry
Newton more important than Einstein

Tesla more important than both, put together, to modern life.

How many devices invented by Newton or Einstein are in daily use in today's world? There are billions of devices operating today that use parts and pieces invented by Nikola Tesla.

Not a contest.

31 posted on 11/23/2005 6:27:54 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: InterceptPoint

Greatest scientist: Josiah Willard Gibbs. Greatest mathematician: Karl Friedrich Gauss.


32 posted on 11/23/2005 6:27:55 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: PatrickHenry

"If I have seen farther, it is by standing on the shoulder of giants." ~Isaac Newton


33 posted on 11/23/2005 6:28:31 PM PST by mikrofon (Science!)
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To: PatrickHenry
Lay people could understand Newton and could not understand Einstein.
34 posted on 11/23/2005 6:28:48 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rush agrees with me 98.5% of the time!)
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To: InterceptPoint
I think he died a virgin. Someone should check that out. If so it just goes to show how much more we could accomplish if we weren't being distracted all the time by the ladies.

Why are all the cute ones gay? Kind of hard to check that out now, though, isn't it?

You'd be so lucky to be so distracted by the ladies! ROFL! (Just kidding!)

35 posted on 11/23/2005 6:30:02 PM PST by phantomworker (A new day! Begin it serenely; with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense!)
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To: PatrickHenry
I don`t know, I mean let`s look at each:

An apple fell on Newtons head and he said "Gravity made it fall on my head"

Well DUH! No sheit Sherlock!

Einstein on the other hand invented E=MC2 which means Eminem is twice the MC of other rappers, and Einstein was right boyyyy!


36 posted on 11/23/2005 6:30:20 PM PST by WillamShakespeare (What is a John Kerry?)
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To: mikrofon
"Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's relativity." ~ Albert Einstein

-PJ

37 posted on 11/23/2005 6:30:35 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: VadeRetro
There were some bits and pieces from Galileo and Kepler, but Newton was incredible.

Newton did say he stood on the shoulders of giants. Actually, Newton explained Kepler's Third Law mathematically, which was kind of amazing, too. He used his own gravitational attraction equation and the definition of cnetripetal (radial inward) acceleration. To Kepler, the law was just numerical relationships, but he didn't understand why. Newton actually showed mathematically that all 3 of Kepler's laws are variations of the same relationship.

38 posted on 11/23/2005 6:31:34 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: PatrickHenry

NEWTON HANDS DOWN!!!! INVENTED CALCULUS TO EXPLAIN HIS UNDERSTANDING OF REALITY!!!!!!


39 posted on 11/23/2005 6:35:36 PM PST by az wildkitten
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To: Semi Civil Servant

Did Newton invent calculus? Don't think so.

What ever happened to Newtonian physics, though?

Yeah, Bill Nye, the Science Guy!


40 posted on 11/23/2005 6:35:40 PM PST by phantomworker (A new day! Begin it serenely; with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense!)
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