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Ultra-sensitive microscope reveals DNA processes
New Scientist ^ | November 15, 2005 | Gaia [sic] Vince

Posted on 11/16/2005 3:40:35 AM PST by snarks_when_bored

Ultra-sensitive microscope reveals DNA processes

    * 14:02 15 November 2005
    * NewScientist.com news service
    * Gaia Vince

A new microscope sensitive enough to track the real-time motion of a single protein, right down to the scale of its individual atoms, has revealed how genes are copied from DNA – a process essential to life.

The novel device allows users to achieve the highest-resolution measurements ever, equivalent to the diameter of a single hydrogen atom, says Steven Block, who designed it with colleagues at Stanford University in California.

Block was able to use the microscope to track a molecule of DNA from an E.coli bacterium, settling a long-standing scientific debate about the precise method in which genetic material is copied for use.

The molecular double-helix of DNA resembles a twisted ladder consisting of two strands connected by “rungs” called bases. The bases, which are known by the abbreviations A, T, G and C, encode genetic information, and the sequence in which they appear “spell out” different genes.

Every time a new protein is made, the genetic information for that protein must first be transcribed from its DNA blueprint. The transcriber, an enzyme called RNA polymerase (RNAP), latches on to the DNA ladder and pulls a small section apart lengthwise. As it works its way down the section of DNA, RNAP copies the sequence of bases and builds a complementary strand of RNA – the first step in a new protein.

“For years, people have known that RNA is made up one base at a time,” Block says. “But that has left open the question of whether the RNAP enzyme actually climbs up the DNA ladder one rung at a time, or does it move instead in chunks – for example, does it add three bases, then jump along and add another three bases.

Light and helium

In order to settle the question, the researchers designed equipment that was able to very accurately monitor the movements of a single DNA molecule.

Block chemically bonded one end of the DNA length to a glass bead. The bead was just 1 micrometre across, a thousand times the length of the DNA molecule and, crucially, a billion times its volume. He then bonded the RNAP enzyme to another bead. Both beads were placed in a watery substrate on a microscope slide.

Using mirrors, he then focused two infrared laser beams down onto each bead. Because the glass bead was in water, there was a refractive (optical density) difference between the glass and water, which caused the laser to bend and focus the light so that Block knew exactly where each bead was.

But in dealing with such small objects, he could not afford any of the normal wobbles in the light that occur when the photons have to pass through different densities of air at differing temperatures. So, he encased the whole microscope in a box containing helium. Helium has a very low refractive index so, even if temperature fluctuations occurred, the effect would be too small to matter.

One by one

The group then manipulated one of the glass beads until the RNAP latched on to a rung on the DNA molecule. As the enzyme moved along the bases, it tugged the glass bead it was bonded too, moving the two beads toward each together. The RNAP jerked along the DNA, pausing between jerks to churn out RNA transcribed bases. It was by precisely measuring the lengths of the jerks that Block determined how many bases it transcribed each time.

“The RNAP climbs the DNA ladder one base pair at a time – that is probably the right answer,” he says.

“It’s a very neat system – amazing to be able see molecular details and work out how DNA is transcribed for the first time,” said Justin Molloy, who has pioneered similar work at the National Institute for Medical Research, London. “It’s pretty incredible. You would never have believed it could be possible 10 years ago.”

Journal reference: Nature (DOI: 10.1038/nature04268)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: biology; chemistry; crevolist; dna; microscopy; rna; rnap; science
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Comment #461 Removed by Moderator

To: Fester Chugabrew
"It is not as though the notion of "no intelligent designer" is falsifiable either."

I said specifically that both the proposition that a designer exists and that one doesn't exist is outside of science. I said specifically that neither can be falsified. Are we having reading difficulties?

"If you want falsibilty and testability alone to be the standard by which anything is rendered scientific, then what's good for the goose is good for the gander, baby."

As I already stated, multiple times. And I am NOT your baby.

"If there is a.) such thing as intelligence, and b.) such thing as design, then there is no reason science cannot at some point reasonably test for it and detect it."

Yes there is, because design cannot be defined without stating some characteristic (motivation, capability) of the proposed designer. Design can be anything you say it is, as you have already said.

"You've indulged your hatred of God to the point of insanity, and it is unbecoming."

You've practiced your willful ignorance to the point you have to lie about what people say. I have no hatred for God. I have a great distaste for mystical stupidity, which you have provided in abundance.
462 posted on 11/16/2005 4:08:50 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Ichneumon

It won't make any difference. You could have Behe knock on his door and say "Hi, I'm Mike Behe and the Designer is God" and he wouldn't believe it.

It's a problem with sneaking, twisting and lying. If you do it, you expect everyone is doing it too.

He won't answer you question either.


463 posted on 11/16/2005 4:09:24 PM PST by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
All claims are to you scientific . . .

Nope. You have a comprehension problem, and a bad paint brush. Science is not at liberty to declare the ulimate cause behind physical matter as absolutely unattainable. You want science to say what it is not a liberty to say. You and your ilk would like to force science into your own little hermetically-sealed genie bottle.

Science is already very capable of identifying intelligence and design. In many cases the work of a craftsman can be scientfically analyzed to the extent the craftsman can be ascertained physically. In fact, in many cases it is very simple. From this it is hardly unreasonable to leave open the matter of how, or whether, there is a personal, intelligent designer in cases where it has not yet been identified.

464 posted on 11/16/2005 4:10:11 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"Yes, all of the above are organized according to the chemical properties with which they have been imbued since the beginning, and they behave according to the physical laws which God established in the beginning except in those instances He decides to intervene.

You just blew your concept of ID out of the science arena.

465 posted on 11/16/2005 4:10:24 PM PST by b_sharp
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To: PatrickHenry

Donkey Shine.


466 posted on 11/16/2005 4:11:12 PM PST by b_sharp
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To: b_sharp
Donkey Shine.

Wayne Newton's biggest hit?

467 posted on 11/16/2005 4:12:19 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Elsie

Its only quote mining if you present it in such a way as to make it say something the original author did not intend.


468 posted on 11/16/2005 4:13:47 PM PST by b_sharp
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
I have no hatred for God.

Then why do you not believe what He says about creating and sustaining the world?

469 posted on 11/16/2005 4:15:44 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"Nope. You have a comprehension problem, and a bad paint brush."

No, I am saying what you have said. You said,

"Unlike you, I am not inclined to rule things out when it comes to the practice of science."

You therefore must think all claims are scientific. If not, what criteria is to be used to demarcate what is or isn't science? Is there any?

"Science is not at liberty to declare the ulimate cause behind physical matter as absolutely unattainable."

It can say it is not a scientifically interesting question though.

"You and your ilk would like to force science into your own little hermetically-sealed genie bottle."

Yes, we want it confined to the real world, you want to include any old subjective feeling or mystical mind trip. We're funny that way.

"Science is already very capable of identifying intelligence and design."

Define intelligence and design.

"In many cases the work of a craftsman can be scientfically analyzed to the extent the craftsman can be ascertained physically."

Only because we have detailed knowledge outside of the physical evidence of the designed object to make that assessment. Otherwise there wouldn't be a way in hell to figure out who made it or even if it was made by a designer.
470 posted on 11/16/2005 4:19:09 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: b_sharp

On the contrary, it is scientifically accurate to say all matter is ordered and genrrally behaves consistently with established physical laws. It may also be scientifically accurate to say God is responsible for it all. Science is free to explore the matter. Brain-tied ideologues are not.


471 posted on 11/16/2005 4:19:15 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

"Then why do you not believe what He says about creating and sustaining the world?"

He hasn't told me about creating and sustaining the world.
BTW, I don't believe in Santa Claus either, but that is certainly not because I *hate* him. Your logic is seriously flawed.


472 posted on 11/16/2005 4:23:45 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
"Unlike you, I am not inclined to rule things out when it comes to the practice of science."

Let me rephrase that so you can climb down off your rocking horse: Unlike you I am not inclined to rule certain things out when it comes to the practice of science.

You wanted to take my statement as if I were saying little green monkeys and elves should be considered a reasonable object of scientific pusrsuit. Well take that red herring and choke on it. If you insist that is the necessary logical result of my statement, then choke on it again.

Science is not at liberty to rule out the possibility that God really did create the heavens and the earth and sustains them. Nor is it at liberty to rule out the possibility that hypotheses can some day be formulated, tested, and observations made, to support that potential reality.

You can say "it's not scientific" to infer or make an intelligent designer a potential object of science till your blue in the face. Fine. Choke on that red herring a third time.

473 posted on 11/16/2005 4:30:00 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Have you not heard these words: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth?"


475 posted on 11/16/2005 4:32:28 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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Comment #477 Removed by Moderator

To: CarolinaGuitarman
Only because we have detailed knowledge outside of the physical evidence of the designed object to make that assessment.

No. We see the object first, make inferences from there, and then pursue the knowledge that would confirm our inference. What do you mean "only because?" It's simple science, but science nevertheless.

478 posted on 11/16/2005 4:38:18 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"Unlike you I am not inclined to rule certain things out when it comes to the practice of science."

What's your criteria for what goes *in* and what goes *out*? What makes something scientific and something else not?

"You wanted to take my statement as if I were saying little green monkeys and elves should be considered a reasonable object of scientific pusrsuit."

That is what they logically lead too. What criteria do you propose to exclude the study of little green monkeys and elves from science? Why are you inclined to rule them out when it comes to science? Just because we have not seen elves doesn't mean they don't exist. You and your ilk would like to force science into your own little hermetically-sealed genie bottle, but I say, let's study Elves! You have already said that physical evidence isn't necessary, so that isn't a problem. Science is not at liberty to declare the ultimate truth about the lives of Elves, but that doesn't mean they won't be able to in the future. Matter exists, therefore there are Elves.

"Science is not at liberty to rule out the possibility that God really did create the heavens and the earth and sustains them."

And, as has been repeatedly been told to you, science has no interest in saying that God doesn't exist. Science is by necessity agnostic. Even if there is a God, science has no way to say so.

"Nor is it at liberty to rule out the possibility that hypotheses can some day be formulated, tested, and observations made, to support that potential reality."

When that day comes, then science will look again and reevaluate the proposition. As for now, there is no reason to assume that any test will be forthcoming.

You seem to be equating science with Truth. You want to have science be anything that is true. Something can be true and still be outside of science. Science is not a tool for omniscience. It has limits, and those limits are imposed by the nature of the world. We cannot make scientific theories with nonphysical, supernatural causes that can't be tested and can't be falsified. You don't get to change the nature of the universe because YOU don't like the consequences.
479 posted on 11/16/2005 4:49:22 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Fester Chugabrew

"Have you not heard these words: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth?"

I read that in a book some people wrote.


480 posted on 11/16/2005 4:50:29 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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