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Saddam, our ally?
The American Thinker ^ | 11-12-2005 | Ed Lasky

Posted on 11/12/2005 7:26:53 AM PST by AliVeritas

Powerline notes the outlandish claims being made by Michael Scheuer, formerly of the CIA:

The pathetic Michael Scheuer claims that, “in the war against al Qaeda, Saddam Hussein was one of our best allies.” And the selectively pathetic Chris Matthews gives Scheuer a free pass on his big lie. Thomas Joscelyn has the details.

JOHN adds: That’s an interesting change of heart on Scheuer’s part. Scheuer was the head of the CIA’s bin Laden unit in 1998, when Clinton’s Justice Department indicted bin Laden. Here is a paragraph from Count 4 of the indictment:

Al Qaeda also forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in the Sudan and with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezballah for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States. In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cia; clinton; leftistdeception; leftistliars; leftistlies; leftistrevisionism; lies; matthews; mediabias; medialies; saddam; scheuer; usefulidiots
Must read. Lots of links you should keep.
1 posted on 11/12/2005 7:26:53 AM PST by AliVeritas
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To: AliVeritas

Sorry, forgot the flip-flop alert.


2 posted on 11/12/2005 7:27:23 AM PST by AliVeritas (Weldon Ops, Earle Fatwa Team, Pork Jihadi, MOOSEMUSS, Stick Brigade, Go Steele)
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To: AliVeritas

Absolutely amazing.


3 posted on 11/12/2005 7:28:33 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: AliVeritas
Read the book Masters of Chaos. Story about the SF in Iraq during March-April 2003. Read about the big Al Qeda base camp they cleaned out outside Monsul. The idea that Saddam was an "ally" is stupid hogwash even the most brain dead twit like Matthews should see thru. OBVIOUSLY after 1991, Saddam was our foe no matter WHAT. Does anyone REALLY think after a decade of regular bombing attacks and economic isolation, Saddam was going to suddenly work WITH the West????
4 posted on 11/12/2005 7:30:27 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I'll try to be NICER, if you will try to be SMARTER!.......Water Buckets UP!)
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To: AliVeritas

Your former CIA at work.


5 posted on 11/12/2005 7:30:29 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: AliVeritas

I don't know how Matthews could listen to this guy without falling out of his chair.


6 posted on 11/12/2005 7:32:12 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: AliVeritas
In our war against Nazism, Hitler was our best ally -- because he was a nutjob who made poor strategic decisions.

In the Cold War, Gorbachev was our best ally -- because he utterly failed to prevent his country from disintegrating.

In our war against Terrorism, Saddam was our best ally -- because ...

7 posted on 11/12/2005 7:35:43 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: AliVeritas

Bump


8 posted on 11/12/2005 7:36:29 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: AliVeritas

I'm sure all our allies promise $20,000 dollars to the families of suicide bombers against Israel.


9 posted on 11/12/2005 7:44:12 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: AliVeritas

Does he have syphyllis?? I'm not kidding....the man has gone mad...his brain must be eaten by some disease.


10 posted on 11/12/2005 7:45:31 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. T)
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To: AliVeritas

With allies like Saddam Hussein who needs enemies?


11 posted on 11/12/2005 7:52:08 AM PST by Milhous (Sarcasm - the last refuge of an empty mind.)
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To: AliVeritas

Aha! So now we know why internation relations and intelligence expert Katie Couric wanted Saddam to "hopefully escape to Syria". She wanted to invite him to her NY soirees! Maybe Saddam could have gone around the world with Matt Lauer?

LMAO!


12 posted on 11/12/2005 7:56:56 AM PST by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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internation relations and intelligence expert Katie Couric

She's becomming so left her face is distorted.

13 posted on 11/12/2005 9:01:34 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ClearCase_guy

"In our war against Terrorism, Saddam was our best ally -- because ..."

Saddam's Iraq was never formally allied with the US, but during the 1980's Iran-Iraq war, the Reagan admininstration invested significant efforts in helping Iraq fend off complete defeat at the hands of the Iranians, and vice versa. This is well documented and indisputable. It is also well documented that the US sought to funnel help to the Iranian government when Iraq seemed to be prevailing (e.g., the contacts which led to the Iran-Contra kerfluffle).

In short, there was no particular affection for either of these governments (indeed, Henry Kissinger reportedly expressed this as "Too bad they can't both lose!"), but a strategy of letting them grind each of their respective countries down, whatever the cost to the inhabitants of those countries.

Now, if you were either an Iranian or an Iraqi, it seems quite reasonable that you might not be all that pleased with how the US engaged in such a "divide and rule" strategy. This is a good thing to keep in mind as we observe current events. Neither the Iraqis nor the Iranians have forgotten this history. It would be best that we not forget it either (or persist in a state of invincible ignorance about it).

The following are not the best of sources (indeed, if others can find some sources with more conservative ties, I would appreciate seeing them here), but are an OK place to start gathering references to this period of US "power diplomacy" in the Middle East.

http://www.zmag.org/zmag/articles/ShalomIranIraq.html
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=40&ItemID=2292
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1985/SRE.htm
http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/issue51/articles/51_30-31.pdf
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0415904072/102-2137063-1808902?v=glance&n=283155&v=glance

In the late 1990's, there were assessments of the US policy towards Iran and Iraq such as:
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC05.php?CID=1169
http://www.ndu.edu/inss/Strategic%20Assessments/sa97/sa97ch7.html

And now, the Great Game continues, with increasing focus on Iran and Syria:
http://www.payvand.com/news/03/sep/1030.html
http://www.aei.org/publications/pubID.20947/pub_detail.asp
http://www.israpundit.com/archives/2005/10/syria_iran_and.php


14 posted on 11/12/2005 9:17:41 AM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: AliVeritas
We continue to miss the point in all this crap. They are not brain dead, stupid, nor short of memory. All this stuff is carefully planned as disinformation to hide the real threats, and reasons this administration backed by world intellegience and UN resolutions and prior administration to remove Saddam from power. They are cool calculating far left liberal socialits and in many cases most probably non-registered communists. Don't fool yourselves by thinking they are brain dead.

Last week while I forced my self to watch PBS nightly news hour while eating dinner, my mother (87), when seeing a quick clip on V.POTUS Channey made the following comment: "How come he isn't in jail yet?"

I almost dropped my mouthfull of food! And I live with her and constantly try to explain all the evils in detail as to how the L/MSM -Demorats operate and for what reasons etc..

Point is. Repeat a lie often enough and a large number of un-informed Americans will believe it. And that is what Chris Mathews and his fellow scum do on a daily basis. And so sadly large numbers of people that are rather educated and have the power to reason clearly, are equally sucked in.

15 posted on 11/12/2005 9:18:00 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: AliVeritas

"bump" for later...looks like some good stuff here!


16 posted on 11/12/2005 9:31:04 AM PST by 88keys
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To: AliVeritas

Amazing what a change of political parties in the White House can do to some peoples' memories.


17 posted on 11/12/2005 9:41:21 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Marine_Uncle

Amen to that.


18 posted on 11/12/2005 9:42:12 AM PST by AliVeritas (Weldon Ops, Earle Fatwa Team, Pork Jihadi, MOOSEMUSS, Stick Brigade, Go Steele)
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To: ncountylee

LOL..so true! Not only is couric's pug distorted, it's angry and bitter because she just found out men only want her for her money!

LOL


19 posted on 11/12/2005 1:47:47 PM PST by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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