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Poll: Most Americans Say Bush Not Honest
My Way News ^ | Nov 11 | Will Lester

Posted on 11/11/2005 7:51:23 PM PST by Jacob Kell

WASHINGTON (AP) - Two crucial pillars of President Bush's public support - perceptions of his honesty and faith in his ability to fight terrorism - have slipped to their lowest point in the AP-Ipsos poll.

While the CIA leak investigation, the mishandling of Hurricane Katrina and high energy costs have all taken their toll, the polling found the Iraq war at the core of Americans' displeasure with the president.

All of those concerns are cutting into traditional Bush strengths.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: america; antiamerica; bush; bushhate; cia; damnmedia; hurricanekatrina; jobapproval; katrina; leftwingbias; media; mexicofirst; nwo; polls; presbush; presidentbush; purecrap; term2; us; usa; waronterror; warwithiraq
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To: dvwjr; All

EXCELLENT ANALYSIS per usual.


In 2003, the Associated Press 'purchased' the Ipsos Reid/Cook Political Report so that it could 'manufacture' the polling data necessary to advance the leftist political agenda.

Any polling organization that routinely oversamples Democrats by double digits (at 50% and above no less) is beyond incompetent . . . actually, FRAUDULENT would seem to be a more accurate descriptor!


FYI: RASMUSSEN has put the President's JA rating at 44% for the last 2 days -- the HIGHEST in almost a month. More importantly, Rasmussen notes that the President's JA among veterans is over 60% (higher among those who have served/continue to serve in the all voluteer force!)!!


41 posted on 11/11/2005 8:36:08 PM PST by DrDeb
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To: MJY1288

Funny, I keep hearing on FR about how the MSM are dead, powerless, not trusted...yet when we find that the people feel Bush isn't honest (and that's what I hear every day from the people around me), it's blamed on the MSM.

And rather than ask, "what can we do about the perceptions," the FR Ostrich Brigade wants to pretend that there's no trouble, and this is a great road we're on!

Sure makes a feller wonder!


42 posted on 11/11/2005 8:40:34 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: PhilipFreneau

"If you had half-a-brain you would have, at the very least, mentioned that the DNC and their Main Stream Media propaganda machine have been lying about Bush continuously for more than five years."

I didn't post that because I figured that everyone here probably knew that for a long time. Also, I don't appreciate being insulted.


43 posted on 11/11/2005 8:40:46 PM PST by Jacob Kell (Regan 3:16: He whooped Communism's ass!)
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To: Jacob Kell
AP (the Democrats Attack Dog) can't prove President Bush lied about a single thing because he never did, so they massage "a poll" that says he lied.

I would like to see a poll showing how much AP has lied, which actually can be proven just about every day.
44 posted on 11/11/2005 8:41:08 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Fee
GWB made a mistake by trying to fight a war in Iraq without mobilizing the country for war.

You got that right, along with the rest of your post. Very insightful analysis, IMHO.

45 posted on 11/11/2005 8:41:58 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Jacob Kell
AP is a left-wing newsorgan which is among the villains in the misrepresentation of why we are in Iraq.

Bush's drop in popularity is linked to a number of factors:

1)His intransigence in the face of a massive invasion of American by lllegal aliens and his ignorance of the concomitant violation of southern borders by the "Republic" of Mexico, as well as his stultifyingly stupid adherence to his "guest worker" program.

2) The rise in gasoline and fuel prices - not really his fault, but the public has perception he doesn't care.

3) The Hurricane issue - again - not his fault but he was too slow in taking action and never should have approved the moron placed in charge of FEMA.

4) The merciless, unrelenting attack by the leftist media and their partners in arms against him and his totally incomprehensible failure to strike back.

5) His failure to present the solid evidence validating our involvement in Iraq and it connection to the War on Terror in a way the average American can understand it.

6) His administration's own policy of behaving as though Iraq is an end in itself rather than merely one battle in the war against terror.

7) His own apathy.
8) The idiotic Miers nomination
9) The Administration's drift from what it promised its constituency and failed to deliver

I doubt these figures are accurate and I doubt the Iraqi war is as important as this anti-American news agency makes it, but it serious enough to jeopardize Republican control of Congress in 2006 and a Republican Presidential win in 2008.

Bush was elected by the majority of Americans. None of them was stupid enough to believe they were elcting a liberal to the White House. Liberals voted for Kerry. Kerry lost. Bush and his advisers should STOP trying to pander to these people - and the Republicans in COngress had better stop it too. Or they will find that given a choice between Democrat light and a real Democrat, most of them will just stay home.
As for Northeastern Republicans - forget them. They don't exist - not in any significant numbers anyway. Mayor Bloomfield is a perfect example of a northeastern Republican.
46 posted on 11/11/2005 8:42:15 PM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: PhilipFreneau

P.S., I thought that I posted "Barf Alert" on the title, but I guess either I screwed up, or something went wrong.


47 posted on 11/11/2005 8:42:15 PM PST by Jacob Kell (Regan 3:16: He whooped Communism's ass!)
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To: Jacob Kell
I agree with the criticism of you. I am sick of people presenting the propaganda of the left here with nothing critical to say other than "what do you think?"

You are the one that posted it, next time be more specific WHAT YOU THINK when you do.
48 posted on 11/11/2005 8:44:27 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Jacob Kell

>>>I didn't post that because I figured that everyone here probably knew that for a long time. Also, I don't appreciate being insulted.<<<

I don't appreciate anyone posting what could be interpreted to be an MSM push poll.


49 posted on 11/11/2005 8:44:28 PM PST by PhilipFreneau ("Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." - James 4:7)
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To: Jacob Kell

>>>P.S., I thought that I posted "Barf Alert" on the title, but I guess either I screwed up, or something went wrong.<<<

We all make mistakes.


50 posted on 11/11/2005 8:45:29 PM PST by PhilipFreneau ("Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." - James 4:7)
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To: Berlin_Freeper; All

"AP (the Democrats Attack Dog) can't prove President Bush lied about a single thing because he never did, so they massage "a poll" that says he lied."

Also, don't forget how they keep saying "Bush lied" over, and over, and over again. It's a perfect case of "The Big Lie". I.e., if you say something loud and long enough, people may well start believing you even if what you say is complete crap.


51 posted on 11/11/2005 8:47:36 PM PST by Jacob Kell (Regan 3:16: He whooped Communism's ass!)
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To: Jacob Kell
If anyone is wondering why I posted this, I'm just curious as to what you guys have to say about it.

Politicians must lie by necessity. Machiavelli told the Prince to appear to be generous but really conserve the states wealth.

The problem with Bush is on the one hand his handlers are pushing a global strategy while on the other hand Bush appears to stand for America.

For example to establish world order we attacked Iraq because geographically it split the Islamic terror nexus in two. Divide and conquer. We can turn our attention to either Syria or Iran next. The weapons of mass destruction is a smoke screen. It's irrelevant and a stupid slogan of the left. The world order is driven by the financial lords who want to keep the flow of oil to fuel the economy.

Bush calls illegal migrants "temporary guest workers." I never heard criminals called this before. He says that they are doing the work that Americans don't want to do. What he is not saying is the rest of the sentence, at half the price that the illegals will do the work.

Yes. Bush is a liar. But the lies are not what the left says they are.

The worst crime being committed by Bush is the creation of Homeland Security. He is setting the grounds for a fascist state. Instead of securing the borders he is letting the criminals into the country so we can catch the fifth column. The fifth column should have been stopped when applying for visas. It should not have been created to spy on real Americans. The apparatus is now in place to do so.

I say this a one who vote twice for Bush. I've since quit the Republican Party. My next vote will go to most attractive conservative party on the scene in 2008. I don't see it as throwing away my vote. I just can't tell the difference between Democrats and Republicans any more. If Tancredo runs, I will give the Republicans one more chance.

52 posted on 11/11/2005 8:47:40 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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To: pepperdog

'..no one ever polls me..'

exactly. I'd like to know EXACTLY who they poll.



53 posted on 11/11/2005 8:48:29 PM PST by 4integrity
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To: Sally Golightly; Indy Pendance; All

"Is the sample not random, they ask the questions and then ask the demographics?"


Yep, the EXIT POLLERS (11/04) claimed to have 'randomly' sampled voters as well until, of course, they couldn't reconcile their data with actual election results.

What do you think happened? I challenge you to do the research necessary to answer this question. I also challenge you to do the research necessary to discover why many polling experts have determined that RELIABLE/VALID polling results (particularly on the national level) are virtually impossible to achieve in today's polling environment.


54 posted on 11/11/2005 8:49:03 PM PST by DrDeb
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To: Jacob Kell
All are non issues.
Katrina is not a federal problem. Traditionally, States are responsible for disaster preparation. Only a welfare mentality would suggest that nanny Feds must do it all.
Energy? Blame the Bugs and Bunny crowd, and the wussy politicians who coddle them.

CIA leak? The traitors at the CIA are putting the nation at risk for the only perceived purpose of hurting the President's administration and he gets the blame? What's up with that?

55 posted on 11/11/2005 8:49:48 PM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: Berlin_Freeper; PhilipFreneau

I didn't know anything about the damn poll. I didn't know for sure just how many of the people polled were Democrats, and how many were Republicans. I suspected that it was a case of Democrat agitprop, so I posted it to find out if it was. I'm not some DU troll, if that's what people think.


56 posted on 11/11/2005 8:50:27 PM PST by Jacob Kell (Regan 3:16: He whooped Communism's ass!)
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To: Gondring
It's not the road we're on, it's the people covering the journey.

The MSM has the wisdom of a new born and the vision of a still born

57 posted on 11/11/2005 8:50:27 PM PST by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: Fee; hinckley buzzard
GWB made a mistake by trying to fight a war in Iraq without mobilizing the country for war.

and

One of the most important lessons from Vietnam War is that you do not win a war by committing an army to war, you win by committing a nation to war.

With these two statements you've pretty well summed it up.

58 posted on 11/11/2005 8:50:44 PM PST by tarheelswamprat
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To: Jacob Kell
Whatever happened to the Truth in Polling Act?
59 posted on 11/11/2005 8:51:41 PM PST by hummingbird (Think I'll google for a while.....on FRED THOMPSON for a seat on the SUPREME COURT!)
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To: pnut22
... Chris Matthews quote a poll.. 80 percent thought Libby was guilty. 60 percent knew who he was...

LOL!
Those same brainiacs will fail to see the humor in that.

60 posted on 11/11/2005 8:52:01 PM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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