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Bill Clinton Decries His Impeachment In Speech At Hofstra

Posted on 11/11/2005 3:20:17 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Bill Clinton Decries His Impeachment In Speech At Hofstra

POSTED: 7:33 pm EST November 10, 2005 UPDATED: 9:14 pm EST November 10, 2005

HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. -- Former President Clinton said Thursday that his impeachment was "an egregious abuse of the Constitution" and asked if history judges him poorly because of his White House tryst with Monica Lewinsky, "How many other presidents do you have to downgrade?"

Speaking on the opening day of a three-day conference at Hofstra University examining his presidency, Clinton challenged a statement by noted historian Douglas Brinkley, who opined in a newspaper interview that Clinton would be deemed a great president were it not for his impeachment.

"I completely disagree with that," Clinton said. "You can agree with that statement, but only if you think impeachment was justified. Otherwise, it was an egregious abuse of the Constitution and law and history of our country."

Clinton, who was acquitted by the Senate of perjury and obstruction of justice at his 1999 impeachment trial, contended that the impeachment was not about what he called his "misconduct."

"Now if you want to hold it against me that I did something wrong, that's a fair deal," he said. "If you do that, then you have a whole lot of other questions, which is how many other presidents do you have to downgrade and what are you going to do with all those Republican congressmen, you know, that had problems?"

His remarks were cheered loudly by the audience.

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To: bill1952
Good cartoon.

Clinton does have a Messianic complex. Most evil men do.

41 posted on 11/11/2005 4:15:33 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: FreedomPoster

It wasn't a was a BA....BLOW AMERICA!!

42 posted on 11/11/2005 4:16:49 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Sub-Driver

Impeachment was too good for the scumbag. He should be in a cell somewhere.

43 posted on 11/11/2005 4:17:46 AM PST by Ron in Acreage (It's the borders stupid! "ALLEN IN 08")
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To: mainepatsfan
He was only the second President to be impeached and there's nothing he can do to erase that fact.

And, he was the first ELECTED president to be impeached.

44 posted on 11/11/2005 4:20:58 AM PST by mombonn (¡Viva Bush/Cheney!)
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To: mainepatsfan
This is what drives him nuts. He was only the second President to be impeached and there's nothing he can do to erase that fact.

More exactly, the first 'elected' president to be impeached!

45 posted on 11/11/2005 4:21:04 AM PST by AgThorn (Bush is my president, but he needs to protect our borders. FIRST, before any talk of "Amnesty.")
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To: Sub-Driver
I've never heard of any Republicans... or Democrat's other than Clintoon, who raped women. I've never heard of any of them killing-off their associates either. Nope... don't recall anything about that. Don't ever remember any president wearing an afro-wig or golfing at night in the rain either.

And I never... heard of any president, defiling an Oval Office sink.

46 posted on 11/11/2005 4:23:29 AM PST by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: Sub-Driver


47 posted on 11/11/2005 4:24:29 AM PST by Calpernia (
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To: Mia T

A thread screaming for one of your Clinton rapist posts.

48 posted on 11/11/2005 4:25:33 AM PST by Calpernia (
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To: Sub-Driver

You were impeached! Get over it!

49 posted on 11/11/2005 4:26:04 AM PST by jos65
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To: AgThorn

You are correct. Andrew Johnson didn't have a big following.

50 posted on 11/11/2005 4:27:16 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: backhoe
Good on you for saving the record! Memories are so damn short, it is nice to know we can refresh them at your well.


51 posted on 11/11/2005 4:29:44 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Former President Clinton is, what I like to call, a "Blivet". That is 240 lbs. of horsesh** stuffed into a 25 lb. sack! He is so full of it I wouldn't want to be around when it blows!! (literally and figuratively)
52 posted on 11/11/2005 4:30:04 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver
legacy building....

Legacy truth. Let's start with the Marc Rich debacle and then move on to this:

A few people William Jefferson Clinton didn't have to Pardon

Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport
drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said,
due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had
been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before
their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

Keith McMaskle - Died - stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was
due to "natural causes".

Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989


Major William S. Barkley Jr.
Captain Scott J. Reynolds
Sgt. Brian Hanley
Sgt. Tim Sabel
Major General William Robertson
Col. William Densberger
Col. Robert Kelly
Spec. Gary Rhodes
Steve Willis
Robert Williams
Conway LeBleu
Todd McKeehan

Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and
Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently,
in the middle of his investigation.

Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22,1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet
Reno 3 weeks before his death.

Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution TrustCorp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.

Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29,
1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small
plane crash.

Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council
personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, Death was no accident.

Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just
after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

Vince Foster - Former white House councillor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close
to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

C. Victor Raiser II & Montgomery Raiser, - Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization: died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by
Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped
her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He
allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files
were mysteriously removed from his house.

James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential
people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent
hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head.
It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as
if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill
Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancie of [above] Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancie, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound, also ruled a suicide at the grave site
of his fiancee.

Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the
head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of what happens to enemies of the Clinton's!

53 posted on 11/11/2005 4:31:04 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("If the Marine Corps wanted you to have a wife, they'd have issued you one." - - Chesty Puller)
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To: looloo
History has a way of sorting these things out quite nicely. He will be remembered for a blue dress, a cigar, a slightly plump White House intern and a lie to a television camera.

Clinton will get the LBJ treatment: a talented but crooked, favors-for-cash pol. Whitewater will not go away, and it will lead historians back to the rest of the Arkansas mess. The sale of strategic technology for campaign cash will not go away. The shredding of the campaign finance laws will not go away. The relentless attacks, including IRS harassment, on critics will loom ever larger. Historicans will ultimately realize that the critics and investigators were right. Clinton's primary achievement in office was survival, and he did it by systematic obstruction of justice.

LBJ, though personally corrupt, will always get credit for his leadership on the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts and for Medicare/Medicaid. A lot of other things -- Vietnam, the hijacking of the Civil Rights movement by hucksters, the overreaching of the Great Society -- went wrong, but LBJ did have larger purposes, on race especially.

But there is nothing similarly redeeming in Clinton's record of accomplishment. He had the luck to be president during good times which he had precious little to do with (end of the Cold War, spending the peace dividend, the internet boom). The Clintonoids are already reduced to trying to take credit for balancing the budget and welfare reform, which were driven by the Gingrich-Armey era Republicans and which Clinton actually opposed. Bottom line: a personally corrupt, albeit clever, little man who wasted a remarkable opportunity.

Historians are as salacious as anyone so the sexcapades will not be forgotten, but the systematic corruption will be the story.

54 posted on 11/11/2005 4:31:55 AM PST by sphinx
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To: Sub-Driver

What cocktail of drugs is Brinkley hooked on? How on earth can anyone seriously regard The 'Toon as a potentially great president in the aftermath of 09-11-01?

55 posted on 11/11/2005 4:32:33 AM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Dream Ticket: Cheney/Rice '08)
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To: libertylover
"Clinton was having his affair with Monica including phone sex to Monica's apartment"

I always wondered if Monica was "sent" to the White House to trap Clinton. Maybe by the Israelis?

56 posted on 11/11/2005 4:33:16 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

it is good to see that all laid out like that, again.

57 posted on 11/11/2005 4:35:59 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Sub-Driver

I keep thinking of that old song in relation to THAT MAN: "How can we miss you if you won't go away? Far, far away from me. . .".

Each time he or Carter shove their faces onto camera or into the public spotlight to spew some other dreck, I just cringe at their crass, yet puerile, loathing of any Americans who don't agree with them. Get over it. Grow up. But mostly, please just GO AWAY.

58 posted on 11/11/2005 4:36:29 AM PST by alwaysconservative (Well, alrighty then!)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
My kind regards to you & yours, Jimmy V... I have a long and unforgiving memory.

And I really mean what my tagline implies. If half of what the Clintons did to our national security ever comes home to roost, America is Royally Screwed.

I just hope his legions of enablers have a bright millisecond to realize this before the fires consume them.

59 posted on 11/11/2005 4:40:15 AM PST by backhoe (Has that Clinton "Legacy" made *you* feel safer, yet?)
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To: SkyPilot
Clinton does have a Messianic complex. Most evil men do.

A particularly stunning moment was election night in 1996, after the networks had called the results, when Clinton came out for his victory speech. In a euphoric mood and with a glowing, cherry-red nose, Clinton evoked his mother "up in heaven, looking down on my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased." That's not an exact quote, but it's close.

My first reaction was "wow." That was also when I began to seriously reconsider the drug angle.

60 posted on 11/11/2005 4:41:22 AM PST by sphinx
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