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Casey 54%, Santorun 34% (Rasmussen Reports) - Ouch!!!
Rasmussen Reports ^ | 11-10-05 | Rasmussen Reports

Posted on 11/10/2005 12:35:37 PM PST by TitansAFC

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To: Pukin Dog

HAHAHA. You are so funny!


221 posted on 11/10/2005 1:58:38 PM PST by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: Antoninus
It is not defeatist to suggest that Santorum is a goner. He is. He should not run. Look, Pennsylvania is lost to the GOP. Raise your hand if you think Spector is going to return the favor he recieved from Santorum? Especially after Alito is confirmed? I'm sorry the news isn't good, but Santorum needs to find another line of work.
222 posted on 11/10/2005 1:58:47 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Antoninus
I live in Ohio and I gave $30 to Santorums campaign.
I'm telling you, I feel abandoned by GW BUSH Where is he?
223 posted on 11/10/2005 1:58:51 PM PST by Cindy_Cin
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To: Shermy
If the word "strange" is loaded let's use "unusual."

When the killing of unborn babies is considered "usual", I'm happy to be considered "unusual."
224 posted on 11/10/2005 1:59:17 PM PST by Antoninus (Hillary smiles whenever a Freeper trashes Santorum)
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To: Toespi
I am not a Santorum constituent but if I were he would not get my vote. My husband and I are serious boaters and we rely on NOAA weather marine forecasts, as do tens of thousands of mariners in the US. Boaters are generally conservatives and Republicans, and this information has been in many boating magazines and publications. Many who I have talked to, in no way will support Santorum because of this ridiculous bill. It is one thing to pay .30 to .50 cents more for fuel than autos, but to have to pay for a public service that is vital to an industry and has been available for many years for free is a killer for any politician who would support it.

In other words, you are conservative except when it comes to continuing your free lunch.

SD

225 posted on 11/10/2005 1:59:27 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Shermy

That's a pretty cheap shot. According to most psychologists, the most difficult loss for a person is the death of a child. Perhaps attacking the way someone acted during a period of shock and grief is not the most noble of criticisms.


226 posted on 11/10/2005 1:59:53 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: steve-b

I mean people in the media who you need to carry the "message" that conservatives were upset.

I know that Kilgore was not a true-blue conservative. I know conservatives who wanted Kaine because they were afraid that Kilgore would have an easier time getting stuff through a republican legislature than Kaine (frankly, I agree with them enough that I'm not all that upset by the outcome -- but I voted Kilgore).

I know some who didn't like his pro-tax-referendum stance. I know some who didn't like his refusal to answer the abortion question. Others who were turned off by his attack on lawyers defending clients.

Kilgore lost because he had no coherent message, not because of some backlash against conservatives. He lost to a man who promised to throw out his principles to get elected. This is what the Democrats are cheering.

But I'm just saying that the "message" conservatives tried to send on election eve didn't get to anybody.


227 posted on 11/10/2005 2:00:33 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Pukin Dog
It is not defeatist to suggest that Santorum is a goner. He is.

Really, when was the election? I must have missed it.

Oh, btw, what you said is the very definition of defeatist.
228 posted on 11/10/2005 2:00:33 PM PST by Antoninus (Hillary smiles whenever a Freeper trashes Santorum)
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To: Antoninus

my point is a pro-life senator isn't going to DIRECTLY decide a damn thing regarding abortion - the Supreme Court is, and the issue would then be returned to the states. is an anti-Roe SCOTUS nominee more likely to get the confirmation vote of a senator Ridge, or a Democrat senator?


229 posted on 11/10/2005 2:00:58 PM PST by oceanview
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To: jpsb

Standing and applauding your post~!


230 posted on 11/10/2005 2:01:15 PM PST by Cindy_Cin
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To: Antoninus

Thanks for the backup. I don't really know PD-- I guess he's an OK guy.

This onslaught against Santorum is a campaign by the pro-aborts in PA, with whom I have dealt for three decades.
We cannot let them win.


231 posted on 11/10/2005 2:01:24 PM PST by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
"Any so-called conservative who would sit at home instead of voting for Santorum against liberal Casey for a position as powerful and important as a Senate seat is a total idiot."

The 'Republican' 'led' Senate could use a good old-fashioned butt whoopin' and housecleaning. I don't trust any of them. Let it go back to the 'Rats for a few years. Gridlock in Washington is probably the best thing that could happen to this country. At least it would be cheaper and easier to understand than what the current Repubic Senate has given us so far.

232 posted on 11/10/2005 2:02:06 PM PST by manwiththehands
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To: TitansAFC

Oh don't worry Spectre will come to his rescue *smirk*.


233 posted on 11/10/2005 2:02:19 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: oceanview
my point is a pro-life senator isn't going to DIRECTLY decide a damn thing regarding abortion - the Supreme Court is

And the body who decides whether a person will sit on the SCOTUS is....

...waiting for it....
234 posted on 11/10/2005 2:02:58 PM PST by Antoninus (Hillary smiles whenever a Freeper trashes Santorum)
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To: oceanview
is an anti-Roe SCOTUS nominee more likely to get the confirmation vote of a senator Ridge, or a Democrat senator?

I think that's an open question, but I think there's a greater chance Casey would support such a nominee than Ridge.

235 posted on 11/10/2005 2:03:14 PM PST by JohnnyZ ("She was appointed by a conservative. That ought to have been enough for us." -- NotBrilliant)
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To: ZULU
Exactly~!!!
A deer caught in the headlights is a PERFECT analogy!
The only time we get movement from our so called GOP "leaders" is when they are jumping through hoops for the Media or the Senate Democrats!
236 posted on 11/10/2005 2:04:19 PM PST by Cindy_Cin
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To: TitansAFC

Maybe those illegal aliens flooding over the Rio Grande will vote for the Republicans...maybe a couple of muslims might pull the lever too.

Why is this a surprise? Many of us have complained for some time the Republicans have failed the conservative revolution. I recall many crowing about how the last election was a death knell for the Democrats. My first thought was the Republicans better deliver first before spouting that BS.

Reap what you sow, baby.


237 posted on 11/10/2005 2:04:21 PM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: Antoninus

and to answer to last point:

if you want to limit abortions, what you need are 5 SCOTUS members on the bench who agree, followed by pro-life governors and state legislatures. they will be the deciding factors. we currently have pro-choice republican senators, who voted for Roberts and will vote for Alito.


238 posted on 11/10/2005 2:05:21 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Toespi

Anybody really believe he did this for a $2000 donation? You can disagree with his position on the bill, but believe this -- he really thinks it is wrong for the federal government to provide something in competition with the private sector.

You don't get that information "for free". It costs money to deliver it. We KNOW it costs money, because if you give the same data to the private sector, and they have every reason to try to give it to you as efficiently as possible, they will have to charge money for it.

But now, the federal government spends everybody's tax dollars to provide it to you for free. My tax dollars pay for you to get that for free. You can like that, just like others like all the things the federal government gives THEM for free, competing with (or locking out) private companies who could do the same jobs for lower cost, but couldn't get others to pay to give it to you for free.

I have no position about his bill, and I don't know anything about the PAWS bill except what I just read (which looks strange to me that a conservative who in one case fought government intervention would take a different approach on PAWS).

But I don't believe Santorum did this for a campaign donation.


239 posted on 11/10/2005 2:06:17 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: oceanview
is an anti-Roe SCOTUS nominee more likely to get the confirmation vote of a senator Ridge, or a Democrat senator?

Neither.

SD

240 posted on 11/10/2005 2:06:17 PM PST by SoothingDave
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