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"One would think Freddy could win the West Side down to SoHo and TriBeCa and Stuy Town, but my guess is he'll lose all of it. What does that say about this as a Democratic city?"

That sentence and the title remind me of Edward G. Robinson in Little Caesar, "Is this the end of RICO"?

1 posted on 11/06/2005 2:12:06 PM PST by neverdem
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Democratic leaders say a lack of unity weakens party efforts to build more affordable housing, rein in apartment rents,...

Rent control is one of the main reasons that more affordable housing is NOT built. The market sets the amount of the rent, and the market delivers the housing. If the housing is too expensive it will either lie vacant, or will be rented to people who can afford it.

2 posted on 11/06/2005 2:15:29 PM PST by RobFromGa (Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran-- what are we waiting for?)
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"the guy from the block who works hard for the party doesn't stand much chance"

Good old Chuckie Rangel. Hey, Chuckie, "the guy who works hard for the party" may not be the citizens' choice of a leader. How about someone who works for the people?


3 posted on 11/06/2005 2:18:59 PM PST by hsalaw
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To: neverdem; Fair Go

Democratic leaders say a lack of unity weakens party efforts to build more affordable housing, rein in apartment rents, allow gay marriage and battle for more school aid from Albany.

My God, it sounds like the Labour Party (New Zealand)!

Ping!

4 posted on 11/06/2005 2:19:57 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Alberta independentists to Canada (read: Ontario and Quebec): One hundred years is long enough)
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To: neverdem

Imagine if the mayor were a REAL Republican.


5 posted on 11/06/2005 2:25:54 PM PST by Buck W. (Yesterday's Intelligentsia are today's Irrelevantsia.)
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To: neverdem
the Democratic challenger...

What is this "Democratic" challenger? I can't seem to find him on the ballot.

I can find a Democrat challenger but not a Democratic challenger.

8 posted on 11/06/2005 2:35:27 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not all problems can be solved with a sledge hammer. Sometimes nitroglycerin is required. Or a Nuke)
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Ummm... Isn't Stuy Town on the EAST side, Norman Adler?

Mark Green, the Democratic candidate in 2001, argued that a Bloomberg landslide would show that blood is not always thicker than water. Ethnic pride in Mr. Ferrer and partisan kinship among Democrats "seem to be submerged in a tidal wave of spending by Mayor Bloomberg," he said.

Mark Brown doesn't get it (not that I'd ever expect him to). Ferrer's parents came from Puerto Rico. But he was born in New York City. He's not from the Dominican or Haiti or Mexico or Central or South America. "Hispanic" is as descriptive a term for Latino immigrants as "European" would have been for immigration at the turn of the 20th century. You wouldn't have expected an Italian to back a German or a Belgian to back a Frenchman out of "ethnic pride". Why would you expect a Dominican to back a Puerto Rican out of ethnic pride? Same language, perhaps. But a different country.
11 posted on 11/06/2005 2:53:44 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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Bloomberg could have spent 1/10th of what he did - and still won. The Dems are all children, until they field a candidate who appears to be an adult, people here are going to be reluctant to turn over the capital city of the world to a child to run.

The Rs need to start grooming a candidate for 2009 - Ray Kelly, Bernard Kerik, Bill Bratton.


13 posted on 11/06/2005 2:59:16 PM PST by oceanview
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Democrats complain that fund-raising caps and term limits have deprived the Democratic challenger, Fernando Ferrer, of a political machine

LOL. Democrats championed "campaign finance reform". Now it bites off their a$$.

15 posted on 11/06/2005 3:01:56 PM PST by Tax Government (Tax "democrats". Contribute to FR.)
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The Democrats have lost the last three mayoral elections, and if they lose Tuesday's it will be their longest stretch out of power since the consolidation of New York City in 1898.

A preposterous supposition from an enterprise doomed to be renowned as an irrelevant waste of trees,as if the re-election of King Bloomberg is nothing more than the voters distinction between hardcore communist and the regular NYC breed of socialist crook baby killing sex pervert.

Bloomberg is about as Republican as FDR, and hasn't done a thing to decrease the tax burden on those American citizens foolish enough to reside in NYC.

17 posted on 11/06/2005 3:04:56 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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19 posted on 11/06/2005 3:07:00 PM PST by monkapotamus
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If Bloomberg was honestly a "Republican", the NooYawkers would have hung him out to dry a long time ago, alongside of "Rudy"!
We need to be more careful about who we let share our defining name.


22 posted on 11/06/2005 3:13:27 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (LET ME DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, ALEX KOZINSKI FOR SCOTUS)
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...to build more affordable housing, rein in apartment rents, allow gay marriage...

The only people in this city who see gay "marriage" as a pressing political issue are Christine Quinn, Tom Duane, and Margarita Lopez.

This is one of the primary reasons that Democrats are so manifestly unpopular, the coastal regions of this country notwithstanding.

A sense of misplaced priorities.

24 posted on 11/06/2005 3:41:53 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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Democrats outnumber Republicans in NYC 9-1. Yet they're willing to re-elect a RINO. Shows you they don't trust the Democrats to make the city more livable. These are the same people who voted for Kerry last year.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

27 posted on 11/06/2005 3:46:42 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Democrats still have an incredible about of political power in nyc. City Hall eludes them, but almost every other citywide position (and city representation in Albany & DC) is overwhelmingly dem.


31 posted on 11/06/2005 3:52:19 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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Sadly, the Dems have a lock on the City Council, 4 of the 5 borough presidencies and, in another four years, they'll have City Hall back when Bloomberg hits term limits. There aint another Rudy out there.


33 posted on 11/06/2005 4:42:22 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (By defiintion, we cannot have Consensus until you agree with me.)
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To all of you people one there who couldn't find New York City on a map, but wring your hands about electing a rino, consider this: When Bloomberg kicks freddy's ass all over the city, he will be showing huge numbers of minority voters that they can vote for a Republican without the world coming to an end. Look, people don't vote Democrat all their lives and then flip. This doesn't happen to individuals let along historically robotic Black and Hispanic voters. To the contrary, the first move is for people to either take a quick jump over ( very small) but then follow this path, they 1) don't vote at all 2) they vote some third party or Indy 3) they finally vote Republican and stay there. Bloomy will lead hundreds of thousands of minority voters to the first step. This will be very bad news for the rats all over but especially for the beast who will now NOT have such an easy ride next year and thereafter.


37 posted on 11/06/2005 5:44:36 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Everything points to it so why not call them the Whigs?)
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To: neverdem

The days of Party hacks like Freddie and Dinkins are over.
Freddie cannot win. He is losing in every single demographic except the Hispanic vote, and even there it is close.

It remains to be seen if this says anything about "a Democratic city" . It speaks more to the competence and experience of the Mayor versus an ineffectual nothing of a candidate like Freddie.

The two golden rules of American politics : "all politics is local" and "you can't beat something with nothing"


41 posted on 11/06/2005 9:31:23 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY and her HINO want to take over your country. STOP THEM NOW!)
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NYC is no where near as liberal as people think it is.


42 posted on 11/06/2005 9:33:09 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY and her HINO want to take over your country. STOP THEM NOW!)
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Paris Burning could impact the election.

They may have tried to make New Yorkers forget 9/11 but TROP is making them remember.


49 posted on 11/07/2005 9:34:00 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Conservatives are from earth. Liberals are from Uranus.)
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The whole premise of this article is silly, especially since there weren't even any Republican candidates on the ballot for the other city-wide races.


50 posted on 11/09/2005 11:30:16 AM PST by NYCVirago
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