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Chirac vows order as French riots spread
Reuters ^ | November 6, 2005 | Elizabeth Pineau and Sophie Louet

Posted on 11/06/2005 1:21:11 PM PST by JustaCowgirl

By Elizabeth Pineau and Sophie Louet

PARIS (Reuters) - President Jacques Chirac on Sunday vowed to restore order in France after riots in Paris spread across the country and began to unnerve his European neighbours.

"The Republic is quite determined, by definition, to be stronger than those who want to sow violence or fear," Chirac said after a special domestic security council met to respond to the latest violence in which 1,300 vehicles went up in flames.

"The law must have the last word," Chirac said in his first public comments since the riots started in the poor suburbs, noting the importance of the respect of all, the law and the equality of chances.

Signs of a fresh wave of violence emerged on Sunday evening when youths seized a bus in Saint-Etienne, in southern France, ordering passengers to get off and then torching the vehicle.

The driver and one passenger were hurt, officials said.

In Rouen, in the north, rioters pushed a burning car against a police building. No-one was hurt, police said. Cars were also burnt in the cities of Nantes, Rennes and Orleans, media said.

Chirac's government is struggling to cope with an explosion of unrest with complex social, economic and racial causes.

Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin said the government would step up security wherever necessary. Some 2,300 extra officers have already been drafted in.

"We cannot accept any 'no-go' areas," Villepin said after meeting Chirac, adding he would announce his plans for the country's underprivileged suburbs on national television on Monday.

Rioting began 10 days ago with the accidental electrocution of two youths apparently fleeing police. Their deaths ignited frustration among ethnic minorities over racism, unemployment, police treatment and their marginal place in French society.

"This is too much, stop!" sobbed a woman in Evreux, a normally quiet town in rural Normandy where a shopping mall, 50 vehicles, a post office and two schools were destroyed.

"FRANCE IS NOT BURNING"

Across France, 1,300 vehicles went up in flames overnight. For the first time, more than 30 were destroyed inside the city walls of Paris. Previously quiet towns such as Dreux, to the west, and the city of Nantes were also affected.

Police said 349 people had been arrested, including six youths caught stockpiling 90 Molotov cocktails in a disused police building south of Paris.

Despite the worst destruction since the riots started, a police spokesman called for a sense of proportion: "It's 211 districts out of 36,000, so France is not burning."

Authorities say drug traffickers and Islamist militants are helping to organise the unrest, via the Internet and mobile phones, among the North and sub-Saharan African immigrant communities who make up a significant part of many suburban housing estates.

The violence has tarnished France's image abroad, forcing Villepin to cancel a trip to Canada, while Russia and the United States have warned their citizens to avoid troubled suburbs.

Neighbouring Germany, too, has a large immigrant population, including over 3 million Muslims -- most of Turkish origin.

Wolfgang Bosbach, deputy leader of the conservative Christian Democrats in parliament, said Germany should be under no illusion that similar events could happen there too.

In Italy, opposition leader Romano Prodi called on the government to take urgent action, telling reporters:

"We have the worst suburbs in Europe. I don't think things are so different from Paris. It's only a question of time."

Jean-Marie Huet, a senior Justice Ministry official, said 160 people had been brought before the courts since the unrest started. Around 20 had been jailed, 30 others released on bail, and 50 minors had been brought before juvenile courts.

French Socialist Party leader Francois Hollande said the riots were a failure of government policy and leadership. Communist and Green Party officials demanded Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, who wants to run for president in 2007, resign over remarks opponents say stoked the violence.

(Additional reporting by Brian Rohan, Astrid Wendlandt, Kerstin Gehmlich and Jon Boyle in Paris, Paul Carrel in Evreux)


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
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To: vimto

---Chirac vows order as French riots spread---

Chirac: One order of vows and a side of Grey Poupon seevooplay.


41 posted on 11/06/2005 1:39:19 PM PST by Loud Mime (Bad Lawmakers = Bad Law = Infinite Lawyers)
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To: JustaCowgirl

Excellent point


42 posted on 11/06/2005 1:39:59 PM PST by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: ComputerGuy
...African immigrant communities who make up a significant part of many suburban housing estates.

Is that the French term for ghetto ?

Apparently so. Conjures up images of French villas in the country, doesn't it?

43 posted on 11/06/2005 1:40:12 PM PST by JustaCowgirl (Father, we pray that lies will destroy the liars and the truth will lift up the truthful.)
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To: Farmer Dean
Some of us wish we were in there tonight,there are still some decent people in France worth defending-I think so anyway.

At the very least, there is Sabine Herold, a good conservative, fighting the good fight in that most desperate corner.

I've been told she's a Freeper as well.

I'd take up arms to shoot towelheads that dared lay a hand on her.

Regards, Ivan

44 posted on 11/06/2005 1:40:25 PM PST by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: InsureAmerica

Perhaps we should send FEMA to help.


45 posted on 11/06/2005 1:40:39 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (There's nothing sarcastic in this post. Sure there isn't. Not one bit.)
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To: JustaCowgirl
Their deaths ignited frustration among ethnic minorities over racism, unemployment, police treatment and their marginal place in French society.

Do they keep repeating this so that maybe it will magically turn into the truth?

46 posted on 11/06/2005 1:40:57 PM PST by P.O.E. (Liberalism is the opiate of the classes.)
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To: vimto
"...a police spokesman called for a sense of proportion: "It's 211 districts out of 36,000, so France is not burning."

Right. And on 9/11, only three buildings in the US were hit by terrorists, out of what must be countless millions of buildings in the US. Proportion, please.....

47 posted on 11/06/2005 1:41:03 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: Fudd Fan

Sadly, I will say that I think some of the French "policy" was copied from our way of dealing with certain areas of Iraq. We should have come in like gangbusters, but time and again our military was pulled off because the theory was that these things would play themselves out. Or that it would be too politically dangerous, not because of the Iraqis but because of the left-wing media, to respond with the serious force these places need. Inevitably troops had to go in there and clean them out, and this is what will happen in France, too.

Except that between 15% and 23% of France's military (from estimates that I have seen here) is Muslim, which could complicate things enormously.


48 posted on 11/06/2005 1:41:05 PM PST by livius
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To: JustaCowgirl

"Nietzsche says 'Out of Chaos comes order!'"


49 posted on 11/06/2005 1:41:05 PM PST by Clemenza (In League with the Freemasons, The Bilderbergers, and the Learned Elders of Zion)
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To: Caipirabob
Hi MadIvan, what is the take in the British press? Not surprise, I imagine?

There is concern. I too am concerned - I really don't want France to fall to pieces, as annoying as I find the French government.

Regards, Ivan

50 posted on 11/06/2005 1:41:36 PM PST by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: JustaCowgirl
Their Socialist and Communist parties sound and act just like the Democrats here.

That's because they hate democracy, capitalism and all things American.

51 posted on 11/06/2005 1:41:43 PM PST by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires.)
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To: jern

"stop! or I will say stop again!"


LOL! Yeah, really. You gotta just love the French.


52 posted on 11/06/2005 1:42:55 PM PST by Blzbba (For a man who does not know to which port he is sailing, no wind is favorable - Seneca)
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To: MadIvan

7.62-51 solution, deliver at 2700 feet per second, 147 grains. It has a very calming effect on the unruly.


53 posted on 11/06/2005 1:43:08 PM PST by cpdiii (Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Oil Field Trash and proud of it, full time Iconoclast.)
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To: Rokke
"The violence has tarnished France's image abroad,"
As far as I'm concerned, I don't think anything could further tarnish France's image anymore than it already is.

That's the French for ya, blissfully ignorant.

54 posted on 11/06/2005 1:43:47 PM PST by Fudd Fan (God bless President Bush! (Proud member of the Water Bucket Brigade - MOOSEMUSS!)
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To: JustaCowgirl
Just a suggestion to the French...arm your riot police with this:

They want war - make them eat hot death.

Regards, Ivan

55 posted on 11/06/2005 1:44:01 PM PST by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: JustaCowgirl

Come, come; these little setbacks are to be expected in a socialist paradise every now and then. A little more secularism, class envy and wealth redistribution should do the trick.


56 posted on 11/06/2005 1:44:10 PM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: JustaCowgirl
Despite the worst destruction since the riots started, a police spokesman called for a sense of proportion: "It's 211 districts out of 36,000, so France is not burning."

Bravely spoken, particularly since the ante appears to get raised from one day to the next.

57 posted on 11/06/2005 1:44:26 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: JustaCowgirl
Oh, Chirac's gonna get tough, huh?


58 posted on 11/06/2005 1:44:30 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: P.O.E.
Do they keep repeating this so that maybe it will magically turn into the truth?

Of course, what other choice do they have?  Admit that they were wrong about France's appeasement policies, Islam and Bush?  No chance on that.

59 posted on 11/06/2005 1:44:58 PM PST by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires.)
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To: JustaCowgirl
"The Republic is quite determined, by definition, to be stronger than those who want to sow violence or fear," Chirac said.

Translation: "L'Etat C'est Moi."

60 posted on 11/06/2005 1:45:21 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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