Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 6 November 2005

Various big media television networks ^ | 6 November 2005 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, November 6th, 2005

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.; John Barry, director of the Smithsonian National Zoological Park, to discuss the zoo's baby panda.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sens. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., and Tom Coburn, R-Okla.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., Richard Durbin, D-Ill., and Orrin Hatch, R-Utah.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sens. Joe Biden, D-Del., and Chuck Hagel, R-Neb.; Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Sens. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., and George Allen, R-Va.; British Defense Secretary John Reid.

[rodguy911]

That's probably true MNJ.
Anyway what the hell are our guys supposed to respond to? That we purposely exposed undercover CIA guys!! That's not our agenda that's the rats modus operandi.
This whole thing is just the product of a desperate political party and is so bogus.

[sanjacjake]

Teddy...Description..riddle...If you have an inflated
baloon and a 10 year old with a pin..and he sticks the pin in the baloon..what is it called?? Right ..
that it Teddy boy.. Jake

[Bahbah]

The CIA (not the military maybe) needs to do what it needs to do. Period.

Yes. Everytime I see McCain or Graham talk about their ridiculous idea to prohibit "degrading" treatment, they piously say it's not about them (the terrorists), it's about us, and then they get this smug little smile on their faces. It is not playing with me.

[rodguy911]

Woof, Tony bump!

[Cboldt]

This is also the same group that trashed Harriet Miers. So they can accomplish something with their writings. Why the hell don't they use their power more often to get the truth out instead of bitching that the WH doesn't? Sheeesh

Ann Coulter Archive
George Will Archive
Charles Krauthammer Archive
Peggy Noonan Archive

[cardinal4]

One day I will make back to the UK. I spent 6 years of my life there. 5 in Yorkshire at a place that I understand is pretty unpopular now-RAF Menwith Hill. Of course it wasnt an RAF facility when we were there. I have many fond memories from the UK, like Smarties and cadbury chocolate! And remember Jelly-Tots??

[rodguy911]

Couldn't do it, my refrigerator is no where near big enough.

[OldFriend]

Once read a comment from the makeup person doing slick willie on the night that Vince Foster's body was discovered in Ft. Marcy Park.

She mentioned that Clinton was a pasty yellowish color.

Methinks that clinton has end stage liver disease.

[roses of sharon]

LOL, "fight back"?

Against the NYTWPABCNBCCBSPBSNPRBBCAPREUTERS?

Against Hollywood? From Oprah, prime time, and even the History Channel for gods sake?

Against all three morning shows?

Against C-span?

Against all of academia, unions, the CIA and State Dept?

He would have to have one hell of an army to fight back, which he does not, for the conservative press has NO influence on the public, their betters in NY run rings around them, and have for decades.

The President knows he has no chance, which is why he got rid of Saddam and Son's quickly after 9/11 before Saddam's defenders had the gift of time from that event.

The President also knows the majority of the vaunted American public are idiots, are easily influenced by the left, and are basically spoiled and weak.

He will do what he can, and concentrate on our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.

It will be up to us, the minority to destroy the leftist monopoly that controls this country, and has for 40 years.

As I have asked for years here, when do we start??

How many more years will the NYT bathhouse boys and MTP hacks run our policies, our pols, our education, our culture, and write our very history?

[snugs]

By the way Pebble Mill at one was a show from BBC Birmingham studio.

[STARWISE]

Mornin'!

On Tuesday, Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid invoked a little known procedural rule, known as "Rule 21." This procedure, which mandates that all journalists and visitors leave the Senate Chamber, was used for the first time in 25 years. (Hmm .. think they might use this in their political ads??)

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Why Harry Reid Pulled The Rule 21 Stunt

However, once again the news media are being deceptive with the American people as reporters perform their function as the propaganda arm of the Democrat Party.

For instance, the news contained no mention of the leaked November 2003 strategy memorandum which emanated from Democrat Senator Jay Rockefeller's office. Basically it was the strategy designed to hurt the Bush Administration no matter what a bipartisan investigation revealed. Part of that Rockefeller memo stated:

"Pull the majority along as far as we can on issues that may lead to major new disclosures regarding improper or questionable conduct by administration officials. We are having some success in that regard [with the CIA leak investigation].

"Prepare to launch an independent investigation when it becomes clear we have exhausted the opportunity to usefully collaborate with the majority. We can pull the trigger on an independent investigation of the administration's use of intelligence at any time. But we can only do so once."

(snip)

This is not known generally because the mainstream news media decided to stay mum about it: the Democrats don't want their statements to be included in the final senate report on pre-Iraq intelligence. According to senate staffers, the final report will contain statements made by Senators John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Teddy Kennedy, Jay Rockefeller and many others who claimed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction.

It will contain statements made by former President Bill Clinton, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and foreign intelligence leaders all of whom claimed they had evidence that Saddam had -- or was working on -- weapons of mass destruction including nuclear weapons. The final report will also contain material that refutes allegations leveled at President Bush by the left's pride and joy, Joe Wilson. The Democrats do not want this information disseminated to Americans.

In other words, the Democrats would appear complicit in moving the United States towards war in Iraq if a final senate reports contains their quotes. Their rhetoric would appear hypocritical if they continued their rants against the Bush Administration.

The Democrats invoked Rule 21 in order to claim the Republicans were dragging their feet on finishing their investigation and report. But indeed it was the Democrats who were blocking the completion of the senate report. They do not want the American people to know the truth. They do not want the American people reminded that in the run-up to the Iraq war, most of the Democrat senators were on board for the preemptive attack on Saddam. One can only hope and pray the Republicans don't cave in to Democrat demands, which is their usual reaction to Democrat Party vitriol. Perhaps the GOP will realize they have to actively fight the Democrats who are playing for keeps. But don't hold your breath.

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Pat Roberts on deFace The Nation:

He and Reid have been discussing this issue .. it's not new

Dims gave 350 names who made policy statements about whether we should go to war. (gee, I'm surprised they can count over 108)

Then all statements made by the politicans from the time were gathered -- (Dims hate to see their old words, but they have time to ready their blame and scapegoating defense).

Then, we would compare that to the the intelligence we had

We have 511-pg. WMD report which said there was bum intelligence ... 250 analysts were asked: did you receive any pressure to stilt the intelligence? All said no ...

We had the Butler Comm. report, saying the intelligence was flawed, but came to same conclusion = there was no pressure to stilt the intelligence.

"This is a BIG job .. let's roll up our sleeves and get her done."

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Did we hear about this from the MSM???

Senator arranged for grant now involved in indictment of pastors

By TONY BATT, STEPHENS WASHINGTON BUREAU

WASHINGTON -- The money that led to the indictment this week of two Las Vegas pastors and the wife of one of them came from federal grants arranged by Sen. Harry Reid in September 2001, a Reid spokeswoman said Wednesday.

Moving to distance Reid from a possible scandal, aide Tessa Hafen said the senator sought the money on behalf of a nonprofit social services agency and not for the churches or persons who have been accused of mishandling the money.

"The money was administered by the Department of Justice, and it went to the agency in Nevada (Alliance Collegiums Association of Nevada)," Hafen said.

The Rev. Willie Davis, the longtime pastor of Second Baptist Church, and his wife, Emma, were indicted Tuesday on fraud charges with an associate minister, the Rev. McTheron Jones.

They are accused of spending $330,000 from federal grants on themselves although the money was intended for halfway houses for prison inmates in Southern Nevada.

The indictment identifies Willie Davis as president of the Alliance Collegiums Association of Nevada board of directors.

In late 2002, Emma Davis became executive director, and Jones was assistant director.

According to the indictment, a grant of $423,000 was approved for the alliance in September 2002.

The indictment charges the defendants of using the grant money to benefit themselves.

A Reid relationship with the Second Baptist Church surfaced in 1997, when the senator donated $250 to the church where Davis was and still is pastor.

The money came from John Huang, who was convicted of making illegal contributions to the 1996 re-election campaign of President Clinton.

At about the same time, Reid donated another $250 from Huang to the First African Methodist Episcopal Church in Las Vegas.

Reid said he made the contributions to the churches instead of returning the money to Huang because he did not think Huang deserved it.

Hafen said Reid has not made contributions to Davis or his church since 1997.

Reid has attended services at the Second Baptist Church "about three or four times" since 1997, Hafen said.

"He says hello to the pastor (Davis) when he goes to the church, but apart from that, the only other time he has seen him was in May when he met with about 30 or 40 ministers to organize a faith-based summit," Hafen said.

JOHN HUANG???? .. WHAT'S THAT CONNECTION ABOUT??? I swear, if they conducted intestinal surgery on any 4 Dims this week, they'd still be seaping Bubba bile from somewhere in their innards.

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Love Roberts ..he's the best.

It must strain his last very nerve to deal with SeedyReid.

He could use some moral support .. here's contact info:

Roberts, Pat- (R - KS)
109 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-4774 email: roberts.senate.gov/e-mail_pat.html

Bottom line: Thank God for transcripts, tapes, the internet, Rush, Sean and FR (bless you, Jim).

[OldFriend]

MSM folks are reading the threads and you can be sure they are posting here too.

Beware!

[OldFriend]

We're still waiting to find out who hired Craig Livingstone.

[OldFriend]

Happy Birthday. FR makes sure no one is ever really alone.

That's what is so great about this place.

[chgomac]

Aw gee....John Roberts on CNNs Reliable Sources is doing a "filler" from Brazil waiting for GWB to speak.
"Gee John I guess the President just considers you media morons "seconds" to his real job. Gee how depressing for you."

I think their feelings are bruised.....
GWB doesn't take their baiting questions.
He doesn't strike back when they attack him.
He teases them when they think they are being very serious......and worst of all, he totally ruins their summers & major holidays when he invites them along (or not) to beautiful Crawford, TX.

[Cedric]

Plus, there is an underlying arrogance and condescension in the harangues about how rotten Republicans are at PR. The implicit assumptions are {A} that there are no earthly good reasons for the manner in which Pubbies handle such matters and {B}that the critic(s) could/would handle these matters prefectly.

[TomGuy]

Maybe because all the people that are SUPPOSE to be on W's side keep sticking in their own knives. I have NEVER seen such a complete lack of any sort of emotional or mental discipline as that demonstrated daily by the "Conservative" pundits.

That has nothing to do with the incompetence of Scott Mc as Press Sec. Any president needs a strong Press Sec. Ari was a stong Press Sec who didn't allow the press corp to bully him. Scott just isn't that kind of person; but that is the kind of person any president needs.

Remember, Reagan has similar problems with the MSM, but he found ways to circumvent them. So far, Bush 2 with Scott hasn't found a way to circumvent. And much of any administration's perceived success or failure is in the PR arena. Right now, and for the last 4 years, GW has been losing in the PR arena. That affects his agenda, his policies, and his administrative capabilities.

[malia]

2X's on FoxNews this am I've heard Social Security reform failed because americans didn't want reform!

I think it failed because it is the cash cow!!

I wanted to see reform!!!!

[snugs]

I nearly bought some smarties cookies at ASDA earlier today they were on the reduced trolley but I resisted LOL.

Yes jelly tots I like the dark red ones the best. Of course Cadbury's chocolate nothing comes near that IMHO, I like your Reeses Cup but they do not hold a candle to Cadbury's products.

[MNJohnnie]

I understand that McCain was tortured when he was a POW does that make him Qualified to wright a bill outlawing torture ?

When McCain was asked about this he said "Well I hate to be the next one of our guys taken prisoner"?

Senator McMedia are you REALLY this stupid? Our foes do NOT take prisoners except to torture and murder them. The idea that this Terrorist Protection act would do ANYTHING to help our guys is just INSANE.