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France rioters: \'Each night we make this place Baghdad\'
Monsters and Critics.com ^ | Nov 5, 2005, 19:00 GMT | Hans-Hermann Nikolei

Posted on 11/05/2005 4:47:47 PM PST by DogBarkTree

Paris - \'We burned 15 cars. How many do you have?\' A grim contest is under way in France as kids from disadvantaged suburbs vie with each other to see who can riot the hardest.

On Internet websites, young arsonists brag about their successes. Rioting, it seems, has become a trend sport, as youths in immigrant areas of provincial cities begin to rally to the call from Paris.

While political slogans hold no sway among these youngsters, hatred for Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy is palpable. \'Now we\'re the ones chasing you with the Karcher (high-pressure hoses),\' they say, referring to Sarkozy\'s pledge to clean the suburbs of \'scum\'.

What began as pitched battles has transformed into a nightly game of cat-and-mouse with the police.

Two or three people set out armed with mobile phones, crowbars and incendiary material. A quick hit with the crowbar on the windscreen of a police van, a Molotov cocktail inside - and they\'re off back into the sprawling housing estates.

The rioters have also started using motorbikes and mobile phones to trace the movements of police riot squads, in tactics reminiscent of urban guerrilla movements.

\'Each night we turn this place into Baghdad\', says one masked youth in Sevran near Paris. As a political statement, there have been better - but these riots seem to be more aimed at the television cameras than the National Assembly.

\'It would be better to go into Paris than break up everything here,\' his friend says, appearing to consider that the victims of the rioting are predominantly their own neighbours and friends.

\'Why did they set my car on fire, why mine?\' asks one young man as he watches it go up in flames. He knows the perpetrators, he says. They\'re neighbours of his, but he refuses to name them.

\'These are our kids,\' says Mohammed Rezzoug, vice president of Blanc-Mesnil football club.

Every night, Rezzoug is out on the streets talking to local youths in a bid to prevent his own sports hall going up in smoke. \'They answer me: \'Momo, we\'ll fuck them all\',\' he says.

Lurking behind the lines of burning cars is the knowledge that these riots could soon become a matter of life and death.

On Wednesday night, a disabled woman in Sevran barely escaped death in a burning bus.

Youths barricaded the road with burning tyres and threw fuel into the bus. All the other passengers fled, but the 56-year-old, unable to move, was sprayed with petrol and then a burning rag was thrown inside.

The woman survived the attack with second and third-degree burns on one-fifth of her body, after the bus driver managed to pull her to safety.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: france; frenchmuslims; mooligans; parisriots; sarkozy; sevran
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To: Kristopher

yes, video on FNC now. its confirmed. not sure what some of these other towns they are rattling off now. 2 schools burned.


41 posted on 11/05/2005 5:12:40 PM PST by oceanview
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To: FastCoyote
You'd better pray that it spreads.

Sorry.

I'm rooting for the French.

ML/NJ

42 posted on 11/05/2005 5:13:33 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: DogBarkTree

To stop rioting, burning and looting, here's a simple idea that works everytime it's tried: Shoot to kill. No apologies. No remorse. Just shoot the rioters. They respect that.


43 posted on 11/05/2005 5:14:49 PM PST by GBA
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To: oceanview
2 schools burned

Savages.

44 posted on 11/05/2005 5:15:25 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

They make good kindling.


45 posted on 11/05/2005 5:15:29 PM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: Kristopher
"European journalistsare too ashamed to report the riots their friendly muslims have started."

Or maybe they are fearful of being attacked by their neighbors if they expose the true nature of the problems...

When will the Patriots come forward? I know they are there because I have spoken with some of them here on FR.

46 posted on 11/05/2005 5:15:47 PM PST by Earthdweller (Earth to liberals..we were not in Iraq on 9/11..so how did the war cause terrorism again?)
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To: gathersnomoss

Why hasnt the UN come in and taken control? Sounds like it time for a resolution. That's always worked wonders in the past.


47 posted on 11/05/2005 5:16:54 PM PST by DogBarkTree
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To: oceanview

Hmmm......I wonder if they have live webcams in Paris?


48 posted on 11/05/2005 5:17:05 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: Ciexyz

ambassador Marc Ginsburg on FNC now - "the US has a real problem here". talking about AQ recruiting in France as a result of this.

is there any problem in the world that is not a US problem?


49 posted on 11/05/2005 5:19:02 PM PST by oceanview
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To: stumpy
Who cares (besides the Germans) if france just disappears?

What, are you 12 years old?

The French may be political children, but their culture is our culture.

ML/NJ

50 posted on 11/05/2005 5:19:11 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

"few of these ba*tards cut in half with one shot will make the others think twice."
Ive been thinking the same. Why the French police havnt dropped of few of these camel turds is beyond me.


51 posted on 11/05/2005 5:19:31 PM PST by DogBarkTree
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To: oceanview

The Media has made heroes of the Palestinians in their "intifada" revolt against Israel, so now young Moslems worldwide want to get in on the party. Esp. since they see that rioting and revolt brings them benefits.


52 posted on 11/05/2005 5:21:37 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: oceanview

Precisely- in Baghdad there are U.S. soldiers and marines.

This is really unbelievable- it's hard to grasp what's taking place over there.

I wonder if this call is far behind:

~~George? C'est moi, Jacques!


53 posted on 11/05/2005 5:23:42 PM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: DogBarkTree
Islamofacists
54 posted on 11/05/2005 5:24:24 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: DogBarkTree

I think because the underlying problem is so widespread. if this were just a "rogue group" of muslims in france, they would probably take them down. but its not, the actual number of people conducting these acts may be small, but the support behind them is huge - you can't kill them all - so they are trying to figure out what to do.

I'm not saying I support this, I am just putting myself in their shoes.


55 posted on 11/05/2005 5:29:14 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Earthdweller

From n0-parasan blog tonight (they only mentioned 4 cars, per an AFP article earlier):

Practice makes perfect
posted by U*2 @ 7:04 PM

Four cars torched near Place de la République in Paris! Looks like we're bumping this party up to urban guerilla warfare. Now perhaps Chiraq will decide to address the Nation, unless he's too busy dribbling spittle all over himself after having blown a gasket in his skull.


56 posted on 11/05/2005 5:30:27 PM PST by LikeLight
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To: ml/nj

Do the french police have bullets, or just white flags?

Call the damn UN for help, I'm sure those powder blue helmeted troops will help!! LOL!!!

The french are NOT part of our culture. Our forefathers left Europe to get away from that continent not to redevelop it here. Too bad Jacques, call someone who cares that Paris is burning, I sure don't. Help yourself, you sure didn't help us.


57 posted on 11/05/2005 5:30:46 PM PST by bfree (Liberals are evil and should be eliminated)
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To: combat_boots
This would not be difficult to stop if they had the political will to do so. Put snipers on the roof tops and start picking off the leaders whom manage from the back of the crowd. Then start picking off the fools in the front of the crowd that do their bidding. If someones head explodes from a high powered bullet and his blood and grey matter sprays over you, it will make you quickly doubt the wisdom of your present line of work. Death works, and the rescission rate from death is zero.
58 posted on 11/05/2005 5:31:42 PM PST by cpdiii (Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Oil Field Trash and proud of it, full time Iconoclast.)
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To: DogBarkTree

As I suspected.........BUSH's FAULT!!


59 posted on 11/05/2005 5:31:46 PM PST by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: LikeLight

If all they are doing is using a crow bar to break a windshield, then slamming a molotav cocktail into the cars, I dont see how they can stop it....they need to start shooting perps....

is there even a curfew?


60 posted on 11/05/2005 5:32:06 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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