There is ONE good reason to watch CSI Miami Eva Larue is on there now.
Posted on 11/03/2005 7:19:52 PM PST by Pyro7480
Tonight, on CSI: Las Vegas, the main plot line involved a single mother whose apparent suicide was staged. The mother was a virgin (determined by the autopsy), and was described as a "prude" by the victim's sister. After a DNA test, it was determined the baby found with the dead woman wasn't biologically-related to the mother. After further investigation, it was found out that the mother had adopted an embryo "left over" from a fertility clinic. A fictional pro-life organization called "Project Sunflower" had found the embryo a mother. As one woman CSI investigator told the details of this organization to the other woman CSI investigator, her boss, the look on her face was one of disgust. When the underling investigator stated that the organization believed it was doing God's work, the lead investigator (whose character is an ex-stripper) said, "I've known strippers who've said the same thing."
The two women CSI investigators went to the headquarters of this pro-life organization. The investigators questioned the organization’s director, a blonde, middle-aged white woman with a Southern accent. In the course of the conversation, the lead investigator, in a hostile fashion, brought up the subject of the supposedly previous position of Christianity that Christians, including a Catholic pope apparently, had taught that the soul of an unborn child didn't enter its body until the mother felt the baby moving. This line of questioning did obviously not please the director of the pro-life organization. When the lead investigator asked for records, the director said they were confidential. The investigator countered that they could go get a court order, and the director said to go ahead and get one.
Later in the program, the lead woman investigator's boss, the head of the CSI night shift (and as the first season of the show indicated, a lapsed Catholic), confronted her, saying that the head of the pro-life organization had filed a complaint against the investigator, accusing the investigator of verbal harassment. The investigator explained herself to her boss, saying that in the course of her questioning, her viewpoint had slipped out. When her boss asked of this viewpoint, she flat out said that she was pro-choice and pro-stem cell research. She asked her boss what he would have done. He said that if he would have been in her position, he would have cited Leviticus 17:11, which supposedly indicates that according to the Bible, the soul doesn't enter the body until after conception (The verse says "Because the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you, that you may make atonement with it upon the altar for your souls, and the blood may be for an expiation of the soul." In it is proper context, it's about the Temple sacrifice.)
Careful, trying to logically deconstruct a TV script can be injurious to your mental well-being.
Many of the better Follywood programs on TV seem to degrade into promoting a liberal agenda. I enjoy very few TV programs and CSI-LV used to be one of them. This leaves CSI-NY for me.
LOL! I say the same thing every time I watch that show - "Hello? The sun is shining, why are you using your flashlight?!?"
As for the "I'm pro-choice" Catherine Willows, I don't know why it was necessary in the plot of the show for her to get all fired up about a woman who was trying to preserve life. Her whole "In the 1600's a pope said..." was a bunch of crap - as if the Catholic Pope defines Christianity in total. (He doesn't in my eyes, I'm sorry to all the Catholics.) I thought it was completely unnecessary and irritated me. But I'll probably still watch the show.
As others have noted, CSI jumped the shark last night.
It will no longer be a show that I make an effort to see.
Perhaps someone should offer a good, solid refutation of the sewage issuing forth last night from the mouth of the character Willows, focusing of the fallacy that the Church ever taught that human life begins at quickening, and we each might copy it into an e-mail to CBS.
OF course she had a southern accent (speaking of which, they had a neo-Nazi, on Staten Island of all places, on Law and Order this week with a southern accent.) It's pretty much Hollywood shorthand for stupid red-state yahoo. When was the last time you saw a positive, good character with a southern accent?
After watching three episodes of "Cold Case" I had to give it up. Every episode was some lib talking point.
There is ONE good reason to watch CSI Miami Eva Larue is on there now.
I noticed that with a few different shows this season. I saw that episode last night and wrote them off. It was uncalled for. There are only a couple of other shows left on the list that I can actually sit and watch anymore.
In the course of the conversation, the lead investigator, in a hostile fashion, brought up the subject of the supposedly previous position of Christianity that Christians, including a Catholic pope apparently, had taught that the soul of an unborn child didn't enter its body until the mother felt the baby moving.
The show's writers did their best to avoid the word soul, so I think they had her say that the fetus wasn't living until the mother felt it move, and that this had been confirmed dogmatically by a 16th-century pope. It is true that various theologians have opined about when the soul enters the body; however, none's opinion has ever been definitively taught by any council or pope, so it is factually incorrect to say that there was ever any official Church teaching on the matter.
He said that if he would have been in her position, he would have cited Leviticus 17:11, which supposedly indicates that according to the Bible, the soul doesn't enter the body until after conception ...
Continuing to avoid the word soul, Grissom quoted Leviticus ("the life of the flesh is in the blood") as a proof-text that the fetus is not living until it has been "infused" with blood, which I believe he said happens 18 days after conception. As you correctly pointed out, Pyro, the context is Temple sacrifice, not the beginning of human life. (Thank you, Alex Murphy, for the context.)
And jailbird, I'm with you all the way on this one -- I, too, "got the unmistakable impression that Helgenberger was playing it from the heart." She couldn't have turned me off more if she had been in bed with me and started talking about my mother ...
Oh yeah! I forgot about that.
This is more of the Law and Order nonsense, with skinheads behind murders, rabid prolifers killing abortion doctors, and on and on. Boring. A surefire way to turn off viewers.
Please Freepmail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.
“If abortion had nothing to do with sex, it would never have been legalized.”
Peter Kreeft, from his book: Ecumenical Jihad
I was completely floored by Helgenberger's obvious disdain and hatred for pro-lifers.
Damn, CSI has it's downside!!
Threads are only started if WE are offended. ;-)
William Peterson and George Eads make up for any "downsides". (Yes, I am that shallow)
Personally, my objection to abortion is based strictly on biological facts and my respect for inherent human rights.
Biblical passages have no bearing whatsoever on my position.
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