...IS GIVE PEACE A CHANCE!
Posted on 10/27/2005 5:54:48 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
just breaking!!!!!!!!
...IS GIVE PEACE A CHANCE!
You have been nasty all along...and now you are being nasty to the freepers that didn't agree with you...
Why are freepers that either backed Miers...or at least backed the "system" allowed to express their opinions without being insulted on this thread...
OR..is this the GLOAT ONLY thread????
Yes, I agree that she deserved a hearing. However, she won't be the first or last nominee for anything that withdraws. It's now time to regroup and move on.
Too bad. He works for us.
Go look up the term reactionary. It is a term that describes the ultra Right, not the Left.
Very well stated! Now time for all of us to pull together and get behind a constructionist candidate for the SCOTUS.
I see alot of people upset here for various reasons. I see alot of conservative christians upset. but I would ask those people to read that thread I gave you the link on - she was going to "flip" on abortion anyway, I am convinced of it. the support she was getting from conservative christians thinking "she is one of us" - she was setting them up. Note I say "she", not Bush. I just think this Bush claim that he "knows her" - alot of that is based on her being loyal in the context of her working for him (an admirable trait mind you). but when she got into a position where she didn't have to answer to anyone, she would not have been a reliable vote for the next 20 years.
We couldn't risk giving her a lifetime appointment....the seat was the swing seat.
The pick has to be solid.....it is to important.
"Keep telling yourself you are the base."
Same to you.
We won't always win, but by showing a willingness to fight (repeatedly if necessary) for what really matters, we will get far more of what we want then expecting policy scraps under the dinner table.
He can serve up a nominee to get his conservative base back, but he will face a filibuster and must then reach for the nuclear option. Not good.
He needs someone who he knows is conservative under the surface but who has nothing out there for the Democrats to chew on. That was why he chose Miers, but he didn't have his people check out her knowledge well enough ahead of the nomination. That was his mistake.
DA740
The phrase "politically wounded" is key.
And it's probably gonna get a whole lot worse before it gets better {if it ever does}!
As always, you are the voice of reason...and CLASS.
Thank you!
OK, so what's your prediction for what happens now?
"The attacks were on JUDGEMENT, not character."
Absolutely. Even King David and Moses caught some grief for their decision-making skills. But it doesn't diminish their overall contributions.
Look, Bush and the GOP lost in the big picture of things because this "spat" occurred at all. But who nominated this person in the first place? I would suggest, that act initiated the process. Only time will tell how much long term effect it actually has, but a good incator may be seen in Bush's next try.
This nomination had all the down sides of Roberts (no track record) with the addition of extremely dubious credentials and the potential charge of cronyism. It simply wasn't smart. IMO.
On the other hand, the issue of "didn't even allow an up or down vote" - admittedly not your claim in the comment cited - and the quote above - are way off the mark. Ever heard of free speech and democratic (in the good sense) process? These were exercised and appropriately. Admittedly, the debate grew hot, but haven't you been watching what Coulter et al do/say about Democrats on a regular basis?
She could have had her up and down vote, nothing ANYONE not elected to the Senate can do or has done to avoid that...except her "withdrawl." (Speech impediments are a terrible thing.)
Actually, I think he should leave it vacant. That would be a start on cutting federal employment. Now that's conservatism!
So can you sit there at your keyboard and honestly tell me that the only people now on FR just hate the President with all their might? That anyone who supports him at all just isn't welcome here? That sort of black or white thinking is known as a "sucker's choice". "I can either post on FR, or I can support the President. There are no other options!". It's blatantly untrue.
I'll state it again. All opinions are welcome. You have every right to post in here, provided you follow the etiquette guidelines. You do not have a right to have a majority agree with you. You do not have a right to force others to listen to what you have to say. But others disagreeing with you isn't "censorship". If you speak and no one agrees, change your delivery, not your viewpoint. If you ask a question and get wrong answers, the problem is with the question, not those at whom you directed it. There is nothing wrong with FR. The side you supported came out on the short end on this one. That's all.
As for the "good fight", that's exactly the same approach Miers opponents have. You just aren't seeing it. You'd rather support the President and lose. Fine. I'd rather support my principles and lose, and if that means I oppose the President's decision (note: that's his decision, which is not the same as opposing the president himself) then so be it. I choose principle over party. In this case, I supported my principles over my party and I won. Both viewpoints are welcome, but if you're in the minority, you can expect to have your voice occasionally get lost in the crowd. That doesn't equate to censorship.
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