Whose Agenda are you Parrotting When You Do NOT Support Miers?

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[Calpernia]

For those of you promoting the agenda of NOT supporting Harriet Miers, take a look at where you are siding.

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Not in Our Name project.

They are SDS/Weatherman.

From FBI Files:

Weatherman or Weather Underground Organization, is a "revolutionary organization of communist men and women" formed by members of the Students for a Democratic Society or SDS. They were originally called the Revolutionary Youth Movement. They advocated the overthrow of our government and capitalism. They carried out a campaign of bombings, jailbreaks, and riots in 1969-1976.

The group derived their name from Bob Dylan's song lyrics from "Subterranean Homesick Blues", which were, "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows", I use to see that quote at the bottom of their periodical, New Left Notes, when I use to work at a periodical distribution company.

Their first event, in 1969, was the "Days of Rage" in Chicago. They blew up a statue dedicated to police casualties in the 1886 Haymarket Riot. They announced at a convention that they supported Charles Manson. The rally failed to draw as many participants (300) as they had hoped. They did lead a riot through Chicago's business district, smashing windows and cars. 6 were shot and 70 arrested. The conflict went on for a few days.

1970, after the shooting by police of Black Panther Fred Hampton, the group issued a Declaration of War against the United States government, changing its name to the "weather underground organization", adopting fake IDs, and pursuing covert activities only. These initially included plans for a bombing of a US military noncommissioned officers' dance at Fort Dix. But when three Underground members died in an accidental explosion while preparing the bomb in a Greenwich Village, New York City safe house, other cells re-evaluated their plans and decided to pursue only non-lethal projects.

This group released a number of manifestos and declarations, while conducting a series of bombings. These attacked the U.S. Capitol, The Pentagon, police and prison buildings, and the rebuilt Haymarket statue again, among other targets. The group took measures to avoid any loss of life as a result of these bombings, issuing warnings to evacuate the building ahead of time via phone. They also took a $25,000 payment from a drugs group called The Brotherhood of Eternal Love to break LSD advocate Timothy Leary out of prison, transporting him to Algeria. They remained largely successful at avoiding the police and the FBI.

In the mid-to-late 1970s, the group began dissolving, as many members turned themselves in to the police, and others moved onto other armed revolutionary groups. Very few served prison sentences, since the evidence gathered against them, by the FBI's COINTELPRO program, was inadmissable in court, due to the illegal methods used to obtain it.

Famous members of the Weather Underground include Kathy Boudin, Mark Rudd, Terry Robbins, David Gilbert, and the still-married couple Bernardine Dohrn and Bill Ayers.

Many former Weathermen have re-integrated into society, without necessarily repudiating their original intent. Bill Ayers, now a Distinguished Professor of Education at the University of Illinois, said in a September 11, 2001 New York Times profile "I don't regret setting bombs. I believe we didn't do enough."

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>>>>Harriet Miers' deep loyalty to George Bush could lead to her making dangerous interpretations of the Constitution.

>>>>Campaign Manager: Miers "Is On the Extreme End of the Anti-Choice Movement"

>>>Operation Rescue urged rejection of Ms. Miers' candidacy, calling her insufficiently conservative.

>>>>make this a ferocious confirmation battle in the Senate

>>>>show the conservative credentials insufficient for many on the right.

If you aren't supporting Harriet Miers, take some time to do a search of BUSHCOMMISSION.ORG. Not a site search. A search to see where info is pulled from:

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22bushcommission.org%22&hl=en&lr=&filter=0

Make sure if you are not on the side of supporting Miers, it isn't information that came from SDS, Not In Our Name, MoveOn.org, of the NLG.

[Willie Green]

For those of you promoting the agenda of NOT supporting Harriet Miers, take a look at where you are siding.

Guilt by association, also known as the "bad company fallacy" or the "company that you keep fallacy," is the logical fallacy of claiming that something must be false because of the people or organizations who support it.

[Cboldt]

Yeah, and out of that list, which are still sitting Senators?

Those Ayes are GOP that are still in the Senate. There may be others, I picked the names out from memory

The question I was answering was a poster wondering which of the gang of 14 had voted to confirm Ginsberg.

[ElPatriota]

..Dude, when will you get it through your head that it's the PRESIDENTS choice, not yours..

:) I could not restist this one! - in a friendly manner - "I know what you mean"... but, I don't believe this anymore! - You are righ, technically!... but in reality, who elects the president? WE DO. And we elect him because we expect him to do certain things for us. He owes,yes!. The INTERNET, the new media, has changed the old ways radically. Politicians will not get away with the things they used to. We, the interest groups, can get together as we do here, organize, and DEMAND what we want. yes, we will never get everything we want, nor I think we should!... but on VERY IMPORTANT issues, such as this one - what better example - politicians will have to put up or pay the consequences. Of course I realize we coud talk this for days :), but I am talking in very PRACTICAL terms.

[GarySpFc]

Me: For your information I have studied everything I can find regarding Miers. I contacted friends in Dallas who know the lady, and I also checked with lawyers who know her work. --- Glad to hear it, but in the post to which I responded you explained your support of Miers exclusively in terms of your trust in W. Seems that you are now agreeing that consulting others is valuable.
So why not at least consider the views of your fellow FReepers? If you didn't think they had any merit, you presumably wouldn't have joined FR in the first place.

I was likely fighting liberals both in the military (Nam) and politics when you were in diapers. I have also spent years in a pro-life organization as an officer. You do not represent a majority on Free Republic. Indeed, according to the polls you represent a small minority who think their posts filled with ugly rhetoric represent the majority. I'm sorry to disillusion you, but like all of the anti-Miers crowd you resort to insults and ugliness to get your way. I have posted many posts regarding Miers, and I do not need to deny my position is not based on loyalty to Bush in each one.

[governsleastgovernsbest]

Yeah, and out of that list, which are still sitting Senators?

Good point. I've done some research, and of the senators who voted to confirm John Marshall, every single last one of them . . . is dead ;-)

[GarySpFc]

Yes, I'm very malcontent with this selection. But by the same token, I have ardently supported W on a host of other issues when I felt he was right. Do you have a problem with that?

I do when you insult others and distort the truth on Free Republic as the anti-Miers crowd has done.

[RFEngineer]

"....when you insult others and distort the truth on Free Republic as the anti-Miers crowd has done."

So being anti-Miers means you are a liar? Do you really believe that?

[bourbon]

And I hold you responsible for this embarrassing rift in the conservative movement.

[cleaving a major poltical party in two with a single strike of his hand and several pithy posts on FR....] Muhahahaha! I am that powerful, y'know. /sarcasm>

[smoothsailing]

I support the President's choice of Harriet Miers. I look forward to the hearings.After that, her nomination should be sent to the floor (with or without recommendation) for an up or down vote.

Gotta go, have a wonderful weekend, Calpernia!

[ez]

lol.

[Stellar Dendrite]

" I do when you insult others and distort the truth on Free Republic"

you mean like how you distort the truth about the KGB murderer Putin? it's no surprise that you spread the propaganda about him, when your family has had direct dealings with him:

I told you long ago Putin is a Christian. Indeed, he had my wife and a couple of others write a Bible curriculum for the schools, which he had drawn into a bill and signed into law.
8 posted on 09/06/2005 1:06:13 PM CDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)

[governsleastgovernsbest]

1. I respect your service, but sounds as if we're about the same age, for whatever that's worth. There are people of all ages on all sides of this issue.

2. As to your assertion that I "do not represent a majority on Free Republic. Indeed, according to the polls you represent a small minority," have you checked the FR poll on the home page?

"After a couple of weeks of research and intense debate, have any minds been changed? Do you approve of the president's nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court?"

No
41.6%

Yes
34.9%

Need more info
18.1%

I'm voting Hillary!
2.9%

Pass
2.5%

[G Larry]

If you think that depth, intellect, and judicial experience don't matter as long as Conservatives get consistent "Conservative" votes from the bench......Miers AIN'T IT!!!!

I have MY OWN CRITERIA!
The criteria are NOT diminished by the number or type of people disapprove of Miers for OTHER reasons.

[bourbon]

Hey, it has been fun, ez. You're a good sport.

I gotta go attend to some (ahem...) important business, like watching some college football on TV.

Take care now!

[tomakaze]

re:For those of you promoting the agenda of NOT supporting Harriet Miers, take a look at where you are siding.
 
While not the absolute dumbest, lamest, weakest, feeblest thing I've seen posted on here in the past few years, this is definately in the top 10.

[fallujah-nuker]

"...The question I was answering was a poster wondering which of the gang of 14 had voted to confirm Ginsberg."

I'm almost certain that "Chafee (R-RI), Yea" would be the father of Lincoln Chafee of the gang of seven:
* John S. McCain III, Arizona McCain (R-AZ), Yea
* Lindsey O. Graham, South Carolina Not a Senator yet
* John Warner, Virginia Warner (R-VA), Yea
* Olympia Snowe, Maine Not a Senator yet
* Susan M. Collins, Maine Not a Senator yet
* R. Michael DeWine, Ohio Not a Senator yet
* Lincoln Chafee, Rhode Island Son of "Chafee (R-RI), Yea?"

[Lurker]

Mine.

L

[rollo tomasi]

"Translation: don't confuse me with uncomfortable facts, opinions and arguments that might challenge my views and make me re-examine them. I'm going with absolute loyalty to one man."

Arms pointing forwards, eyelids wide open and endlessly chanting and moaning: "Must trust Bush, ignore Mier's PC speak, must trust Bush, ignore Mier's PC speak, must trust Bush, ignore Mier's PC speak..."

Using phrases like "diversity" has me jumping off the fence and onto the anti-Miers yard. Of course Pres. Bush has every right to fight for Mier's and I respect that but things are coming out that is a cause for concern to me.

If Miers is a bust, the solicitations of $$$ from the GOP will be returned in kind with monopoly money.

If they want to fake their "less government" platform might as well use fake money as a donation to them. Probably continue voting for the lesser of two evils though.

What a wasted two years with Repubs. in control. And please don't give me that moderate Senate crap, if Bush was as crafty and strong willed as Delay the moderates would have been of no concern. I guess Bush is just trying to please everyone and refuses to play hardball. Opportunity wasted so far, hopefully things will change.

[ridge]

Read your last paragraph? I can't past the title. I'm embarrassed for you as I am for others--who have nothing to add to the conversation on Miers except this nonsense.

[Petronski]

Yes. "How much less so" is not addressed, but yes.