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Whose Agenda are you Parrotting When You Do NOT Support Miers?
Net Searches ^ | October 22, 2005

Posted on 10/22/2005 9:19:11 AM PDT by Calpernia

For those of you promoting the agenda of NOT supporting Harriet Miers, take a look at where you are siding.

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Not in Our Name project.

They are SDS/Weatherman.

From FBI Files:

Weatherman or Weather Underground Organization, is a "revolutionary organization of communist men and women" formed by members of the Students for a Democratic Society or SDS. They were originally called the Revolutionary Youth Movement. They advocated the overthrow of our government and capitalism. They carried out a campaign of bombings, jailbreaks, and riots in 1969-1976.

The group derived their name from Bob Dylan's song lyrics from "Subterranean Homesick Blues", which were, "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows", I use to see that quote at the bottom of their periodical, New Left Notes, when I use to work at a periodical distribution company.

Their first event, in 1969, was the "Days of Rage" in Chicago. They blew up a statue dedicated to police casualties in the 1886 Haymarket Riot. They announced at a convention that they supported Charles Manson. The rally failed to draw as many participants (300) as they had hoped. They did lead a riot through Chicago's business district, smashing windows and cars. 6 were shot and 70 arrested. The conflict went on for a few days.

1970, after the shooting by police of Black Panther Fred Hampton, the group issued a Declaration of War against the United States government, changing its name to the "weather underground organization", adopting fake IDs, and pursuing covert activities only. These initially included plans for a bombing of a US military noncommissioned officers' dance at Fort Dix. But when three Underground members died in an accidental explosion while preparing the bomb in a Greenwich Village, New York City safe house, other cells re-evaluated their plans and decided to pursue only non-lethal projects.

This group released a number of manifestos and declarations, while conducting a series of bombings. These attacked the U.S. Capitol, The Pentagon, police and prison buildings, and the rebuilt Haymarket statue again, among other targets. The group took measures to avoid any loss of life as a result of these bombings, issuing warnings to evacuate the building ahead of time via phone. They also took a $25,000 payment from a drugs group called The Brotherhood of Eternal Love to break LSD advocate Timothy Leary out of prison, transporting him to Algeria. They remained largely successful at avoiding the police and the FBI.

In the mid-to-late 1970s, the group began dissolving, as many members turned themselves in to the police, and others moved onto other armed revolutionary groups. Very few served prison sentences, since the evidence gathered against them, by the FBI's COINTELPRO program, was inadmissable in court, due to the illegal methods used to obtain it.

Famous members of the Weather Underground include Kathy Boudin, Mark Rudd, Terry Robbins, David Gilbert, and the still-married couple Bernardine Dohrn and Bill Ayers.

Many former Weathermen have re-integrated into society, without necessarily repudiating their original intent. Bill Ayers, now a Distinguished Professor of Education at the University of Illinois, said in a September 11, 2001 New York Times profile "I don't regret setting bombs. I believe we didn't do enough."

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>>>>Harriet Miers' deep loyalty to George Bush could lead to her making dangerous interpretations of the Constitution.

>>>>Campaign Manager: Miers "Is On the Extreme End of the Anti-Choice Movement"

>>>Operation Rescue urged rejection of Ms. Miers' candidacy, calling her insufficiently conservative.

>>>>make this a ferocious confirmation battle in the Senate

>>>>show the conservative credentials insufficient for many on the right.

If you aren't supporting Harriet Miers, take some time to do a search of BUSHCOMMISSION.ORG. Not a site search. A search to see where info is pulled from:

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22bushcommission.org%22&hl=en&lr=&filter=0

Make sure if you are not on the side of supporting Miers, it isn't information that came from SDS, Not In Our Name, MoveOn.org, of the NLG.


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To: ez
I'm sure they'll all give flowery little speeches outlining their reservations, etc, but in the end, I think Miers will pass with virtually unanimous R support.

Further reinforcing my opinion that the GOP is nothing more than a country club clique, and worthless of my support.

181 posted on 10/22/2005 10:43:31 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Stellar Dendrite
A sure sign that Meirs is going down.

Check out what her contract on tradesports is doing:

http://www.poorandstupid.com/chronicle.asp

182 posted on 10/22/2005 10:43:44 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Calpernia

You have a nice errand running afternoon then, Calpernia. See you later. : )


183 posted on 10/22/2005 10:43:52 AM PDT by nicmarlo (.)
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To: Calpernia

On any issue, you can find unsavory characters on either side of it. Your point is silly.


184 posted on 10/22/2005 10:43:54 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Calpernia
I understood what you meant when you posted the article.

If you put a member of moveon.ugh and a member of FR in the same dark room together, you wouldn't be able to tell them apart when it comes to their comments about Miers, is that it? If Not, please correct me.

185 posted on 10/22/2005 10:43:55 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Colonial Warrior

Not only that, but if you're on Firefox, the text is flashing. ;O)


186 posted on 10/22/2005 10:44:07 AM PDT by Petronski (The name "cyborg" to me means complete love and incredible fun. I'm filled with joy.)
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To: Cboldt
"A Senator who truly believes in traditional, Constitutional jurisprudence would -NEVER- vote to confirm a Ginsberg. The fact that she got as many votes as she did is another example of the "fighting spirit" and "worth" of the GOP."

I wonder if there is a list of which senators voted for her, and if any of the GOP's gang of 7 did so? Already I suspect Specter and McCain would have.
187 posted on 10/22/2005 10:44:29 AM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Open Borders: The RINOcracy waging class warfare against America wage earners)
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To: Calpernia
Buckley belongs to Not In Our Name

Well there you have it, Buckley is a commie. Man I'm glad you aren't on my side, paranoid red baiters like you are an insult to the conservative movement.

I'm glad the left opposes her too, I just wish the Democrates in the Senate weren't holding their fire so much, it will make this horrible nominee easier to beat when they finally do. You can bet your bottom dollar they will comrade, Bush's main source for her qualification was her "religiousness" which was about the most politically stupid thing I've ever heard. There is no way the Democrates "groups" will ever allow her on there. She's doomed, and no amount of name calling of the conservatives who oppose her is going to change that.

188 posted on 10/22/2005 10:44:40 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (I can't believe I voted for this Cheap Labor Activist)
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To: Incorrigible

I always cause trouble. But I've never lived in Jersey City.


189 posted on 10/22/2005 10:44:54 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: ez
We'll see about that when the vote is taken, won't we.

Surely you're not saying that Senate confirmation proves someone will be a good Justice? Souter was confirmed 90-9, Ginsburg by 96-3.

190 posted on 10/22/2005 10:45:04 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (read my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: ez
Yeah, you. You're demanding that Bush accede to your idea of "qualifications," and that he withdraw his nominee because she doesn't fulfill your "qualifications."

That's silly. I am not against Bush's right to nominate whoever he wants. Of course he has that right. I am merely commenting on the quality of the decision he made. Are you stating that his right to nominate who he wants means that I can't comment on a message board about what I think of the choice he made without violating the Constitution?

191 posted on 10/22/2005 10:45:31 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Surely you're not saying that Senate confirmation proves someone will be a good Justice?

No, we'll see when the final vote is taken whose ends you serve with your demands for intellectual purity...damn the political calculations.

192 posted on 10/22/2005 10:46:59 AM PDT by ez (No more pointy-headed intellectuals on the Supreme Court.)
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To: Rodney King; ez

Sure. The president has the right to nominate a Christian woman if he wants to, but the citizenry (via the Senate) has a countervailing right to question the wisdom of his nomination.

And, besides if having a Christian woman on the Court is so important to you, there are probably a 1000 Christian female lawyers in this country who are more qualified to be on the SCOTUS than Miers.


193 posted on 10/22/2005 10:47:10 AM PDT by bourbon (conservatism over cronyism!)
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To: nicmarlo

ciao :)


194 posted on 10/22/2005 10:47:22 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Cboldt
"A Senator who truly believes in traditional, Constitutional jurisprudence would -NEVER- vote to confirm a Ginsberg. The fact that she got as many votes as she did is another example of the "fighting spirit" and "worth" of the GOP"
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It is also an example of how the RATS know how to play hardball and the PUBS don't. When the RATS get the chance to nominate someone to the SCOTUS they send up an extreme leftist and fight like hell to confirm them. The PUBS send up stealth nominees and pray that things will work out and never fight for them, rather they pat each other on the back with how quick they are to cut and run (McVain and the Rino 7).
195 posted on 10/22/2005 10:48:45 AM PDT by wmfights (lead, follow, or get out of the way)
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To: pbrown

>>>>If you put a member of moveon.ugh and a member of FR in the same dark room together, you wouldn't be able to tell them apart when it comes to their comments about Miers, is that it? If Not, please correct me.

Pretty much.

When someone starts quoting a source, I thought I was giving a path to find out where the source came from and if there was an agenda behind it.


196 posted on 10/22/2005 10:49:20 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Cboldt
Further reinforcing my opinion that the GOP is nothing more than a country club clique, and worthless of my support.

And you expect them to change on this issue based on what? They've gotten this far without your support, apparently.

Bush and the Senate do not have the luxury of sitting behind a LCD display demanding perfect adherrence to their agenda. They have real-world political calculations to make.

You're the one attacking Bush for making political calculations and then blaming HIM for splitting the party.

197 posted on 10/22/2005 10:50:21 AM PDT by ez (No more pointy-headed intellectuals on the Supreme Court.)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
This is idiocy. Not Republicanism. Not conservatism. Not patriotism. Not political savvy.

IDIOCY.

198 posted on 10/22/2005 10:53:01 AM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ez
I don't believe W's choice of Miers had much to do with political calculation. I think it was more a matter of rewarding an old loyalist, and expressing W's pique at the way right shot down the Gonzales trial balloon.

If keen political calculation were at the heart of W's pick of Miers, why didn't the WH foresee the firestorm of conservative opposition?
199 posted on 10/22/2005 10:53:09 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (read my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: fallujah-nuker
I wonder if there is a list of which senators voted for her, and if any of the GOP's gang of 7 did so? Already I suspect Specter and McCain would have.

http://www.loc.gov/rr/law/nominations/ginsburg/vote.pdf

Nays - Helms, Nickles, Smith [that's all of the NAY votes]
Ayes - Chafee, Grassley, Hatch, Lott, McCain, McConnell, Specter, Stevens, Warner

Those Ayes are GOP that are still in the Senate. There may be others, I picked the names out from memory.

200 posted on 10/22/2005 10:54:03 AM PDT by Cboldt
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