Nazi March Canceled When Police Disperse Rock-throwing Protesters (ongoing looting)

nbc24.com ^ | 10/15/2005 | N/A

[sageb1]

TOLEDO, Ohio (AP) - Police used tear gas to break up a rock-throwing crowd that had gathered to protest a planned march Saturday by the National Socialist Movement.

At least two dozen members of a Roanoke, Va.-based group that calls itself "America's Nazi Party" had gathered at Wilson Park just before noon and were to march under police protection.

[NoCmpromiz]

Let's judge the freedom of everyone's speach by their appearance and opinions.

Something missing here unless you are ignorant of the fact that these Nazi idiots are refered to as 'skinheads'. If that is your problem, take it up with them... Has nothing to do with associating speach rights with looks.

A bit more attention to current events and idiom is in order here, me thinks...

[sageb1]

"Well then, write out a permit for American Islamoterroists to hold a protest."

CAIR and the Nation of Islam seem to do quite well.

[dfwgator]

Those looters and vandals were just looking for an excuse to riot, and the Nazis provided it. A pox on both of their houses.

[SeaBiscuit]

"What were these "protesters" protesting? A peaceful neighborhood?"

Yep, the mere 'threat' of a protest by the nazi wackos sent the Black thugs into a rampage against an innocent society, what's next..

[sageb1]

"Your taxdollars fund them (through charitable tax policy)."

I apologize...My attention was completed diverted by what you said was in the sidebar (at that site) about Free Republic and that's what I responded to. You are quite right that if they are preaching hate, they should not enjoy tax-exempt status.

[Mr. Rational]

A few of your comments -

Related to personal responsibility - your words -
"Do you expect things to be calm when nazis want to march in a black neighborhood? What if it was a Jewish neighborhood? What if I got a group together and marched in a muslim neighborhood?"

"What do you suggest? Jailing blacks so that the nazis can't incite them?"

This appears to me that you are assuming that blacks lack the ability or responsibility to behave civily. Did you expect riots in DC today? As far as I know the few Nazis never even marched.

I expect better. Apparently you do not.

And "Skinheads" and Nazis and Nation of Islam and PFLAG and the VFW and everyone else still have the right to assemble. And the rest of us still have the responsibility to allow them to - regardless of the color of our skin or how much we dislike what they have to say.

[Cap'n Crunch]

Cool... free for all, that sounds good to me. Nobody should go crying to the media or FBI for investigations.

Raise the red rag and let's have some fun.

[Mr. Rational]

I was being facetious.

[sageb1]

"Please note this, conservatives. These leftist hyenas are practicing for an attack on us."

No doubt. From how far up in the hierarchy, do you think?

[sageb1]

"Does``libel'', ``slander'', or ``threats'' ring a bell?"

Are you suggesting Hitler isn't really dead? :)

[freema]

"You are foolish to think that legislation will ever inhibit hate."

I think that's hateful.

"People working hard to be responsible citizens will do that- not more laws."

[sageb1]

""Speech that deliberately offends, degrades, intimidates, dehumanizes- incites violence, prejudice, contempt? Yes, I agree with legislation that inhibits hate." "Then you would have to ban some of the rhetoric at the Millions More rally. The question is always, where do you draw the line? The Constitution guarantees free speech."

She would also have to condemn the speeches at Camp Casey and the anti-war rally. Hmmmmm....

[ruoflaw]

Please read Post 611

[Mr. Rational]

Good to see you have a sense of humour.

That NO thing was a bit personal for me (personal history - only with no video guess who loses?). I do not think all cops are like NO - they are special.

I'd be all for a free for all - as long as the economics worked out - modern business is so easy to interrupt. I bet we would end up with more personal responsibility.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

See? There is a good reason that each of us do not get to decide what is and what is not protected or hate speech.

[freema]

Free Speech.

[Cap'n Crunch]

I got roughed up by the police in North Carolina years ago, when I was a youngster. I was drunk, got jumped by a guy. I was starting to win the fight when I was suddenly introduced to a brick wall by a couple of the boys in blue.

They let me go after I gave them thirty or forty bucks. Worked for me since I wasn't charged and didn't have to come back for court.

Time for some urban renewal in Toledo.

[weegee]

No apology necessary and I can understand any attempts to stop a flame war between sites. Unfortunately they are already at the stage of publishing photos of FReeepers with their screennames.

It is difficult to discuss their extremism without people being able to see them.

PJ Comix has a DUmmies Funnies thread all the time even though DU threads are not permitted at FR. I understand the policy and even understand the exemption.

I am afraid of how this is may get characterized in the press (when agitators got the gangs to riot).

The socialists cannot march publicly and get access to school campuses if the national socialists cease to exist/protest.

[Black Tooth]

Those looters and vandals were just looking for an excuse to riot, and the Nazis provided it.

Of course the group of 20 or so wannnabe nazi group is responsible for thousands going criminal causing looting and rioting. I agree, you bet.

[river rat]

Roger on the POX...

The joy and attraction of rioting and looting has to be addressed..

Rioters AND Looters should be shot on sight...most especially when violence is unleashed..

As it is, rioting/looting is a win/win for the criminal bastards - and MSM will not criticize the poor dears...

I'm convinced that if a few are shot at the onset, it will either end the rioting or initiate real civil unrest and we can "resolve" the major issues these assholes have with society.........by removing them from it, permanently.

Semper Fi