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Ancient Anthropoid Origins Discovered In Africa
Duke University ^ | 13 October 2005 | News office staff

Posted on 10/14/2005 3:27:55 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

New species firmly establish African roots for anthropoid line.

The fossil teeth and jawbones of two new species of tiny monkey-like creatures that lived 37 million years ago have been sifted from ancient sediments in the Egyptian desert, researchers have reported. Related

They said their findings firmly establish that the common ancestor of living anthropoids -- including monkeys, apes and humans -- arose in Africa and that the group had already begun branching into many species by that time. Also, they said, one of the creatures appears to have been nocturnal, the first example of a nocturnal early anthropoid.

The researchers published their discovery of the two new species -- named Biretia fayumensis and Biretia megalopsis -- in an article in the October 14, 2005, issue of the journal Science. First author on the paper was Erik Seiffert of the University of Oxford and Oxford University Museum of Natural History. Other co-authors were [lotta names here, see original article].


The subtle topography of tiny teeth and jawbones enabled identification of two new anthropoid ancestors that lived 37 million years ago.

The researchers discovered the fossils over the course of the last few years at a site called Birket Qarun Locality 2 (BQ-2) about 60 miles southwest of Cairo in the Fayum desert. BQ-2 has only been systematically excavated for about four years, said Seiffert, in contrast to a much younger Fayum site, called L-41, which has been explored for the last 22 years by Simons and his colleagues.

“BQ-2 and surrounding localities have tremendous potential, which is exciting because they are so much older than other Fayum sites,” said Seiffert. “There will certainly be much more information about early anthropoid evolution coming out of BQ-2 over the next few years.” The sediments at BQ-2 lie nearly 750 feet below those of L-41 and were dated at around 37 million years old by measuring telltale variations in magnetic fields in the sediments due to ancient fluctuations in the earth’s magnetic fields. According to Simons, other anthropoids exist at BQ-2 and will soon be described, [that's how the paragraph ends, folks!]

The latest fossils of the new species consist of tiny teeth and jaws, whose shapes yield critical clues about the species whose mouths they once occupied. For example, a tooth root from the species Biretia megalopsis is truncated, indicating that it had to make room for the larger eyesocket of a nocturnal animal.

“These finds seem to indicate that Biretia megalopsis must have had very large eyes, and so was likely nocturnal,” said Seiffert. “This has never been documented in an early anthropoid. The simplest explanation is that Biretia's nocturnality represents an evolutionary reversal from a diurnal ancestor, but that conclusion is based solely on the probable pattern of relationships. If down the road we find out that our phylogeny was wrong, Biretia could end up being very significant for our understanding of the origin of anthropoid activity patterns.”

According to Simons, analyses of the teeth of the two species clearly place them as members of a group called parapithecoids, known as “stem” anthropoids because they constitute the species of early creatures from which the subsequent "crown" anthropoid line arose.

“The finding of these parapithecoids from such an ancient time confirms that crown anthropoids -- a group including all modern anthropoids -- have their earliest known beginnings in Africa,” said Simons. “They show that findings by other researchers of isolated examples of possible higher primate fossils in Asia do not constitute evidence of an ancestral crown anthropoid lineage there.”

According to Seiffert, the latest findings help fill in the gap between later anthropoids and the oldest undisputed anthropoid, called Algeripithecus, found in Algeria, which lived around 45 million years ago. That species had been characterized by only a few teeth, which precluded significant insight into the species, said Seiffert.

Seiffert also noted that previously, the only evidence for anthropoids at 37 million years ago in Africa was a single tooth, attributed to a species called Biretia piveteaui. What’s more, the latest discoveries of the two species suggest that a 57-million-year-old African primate called Altiatlasius from Morocco might even be the earliest anthropoid ancestor.

For more information, contact: Dennis Meredith, Office of News & Communications | (919) 681-8054 | dennis.meredith@duke.edu


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Just for the record, here's the original "shouting match".

That was what I thought. A few teeth and jaw fragments and they know all this from 37 million years ago? A leap of faith.

Only to the ignorant. Teeth and jaw fragments can tell a knowledgeable person a lot about the owner of that tooth or jaw fragment. Dentition can be signature features in identifying evolutionary relationships because certain dental features and certain combinations of features arise and are preserved in some lineages and not in others.

Further, by examining the surrounding structures, the combinations of teeth, their placement, etc., knowledgeable people can learn a lot about the behaviors and diet of these creatures, because certain features are consistent across lineages, depending on these dietary or behavioral factors.

You guys really excel at attempting to make those who disagree with you look stupid. I'm ignorant - oh, well. By the way, that isn't going to win you any converts.

First, I never implied you were stupid (i.e., slow to learn or lacking intelligence), but merely ignorant (i.e., lacking knowledge). There is no shame in being ignorant; it simply describes the state of having a lack of knowledge. That can be remedied. There is no shame, that is, so long as one does not shut out the knowledge when it is provided. It is only at that point that ignorance becomes stupidity.

So if, in fact, you feel you look stupid, it is perhaps because you are rejecting knowledge that is provided to you. That is on you.

Oh, and I am not in the game of winning "converts." That's for religious hucksters and politicians. If someone wants to wallow in ignorance, practicing voluntary stupidity... what can I say, it's a free country; he can do what he wants.

And here is an example of "civilized discourse"

Well, my, my, my, don't we have a rather high opinion of ourself today?

Interesting.

121 posted on 10/17/2005 5:44:59 AM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: tortoise
There is almost an unbroken chain of self-replicating molecular entities in nature starting with simple molecules all the way up to big critters like humans. Viruses occupy one part of that chain of molecular complexity right around the gray area where we stop treating them as complex molecules and start treating them as macro-systems as a matter of functional complexity. "Aliveness" is a continuum and putting the breaking point at any one point in the chain of complexity is arbitrary, as the entities on either side of any breaking point will be nearly identical in nature.

Do you have any references for further reading? Thanks.

122 posted on 10/17/2005 7:40:43 AM PDT by Anthem (The only 20th century advance in the science of government was to tax a little less to take more.)
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To: PatrickHenry
"Ancient Anthropoid Origins Discovered In Africa"

A photographic reconstuction: .


123 posted on 10/17/2005 7:50:56 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Islamo-terrorists: Strike force of the MSM)
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To: PatrickHenry
- arose in Africa and that the group had already begun branching into many species by that time.

37 million years ago Africa was separated from Europe and Asia. The water level was higher and the continents had no points of contact, according to http://www.scotese.com/earth.htm

124 posted on 10/17/2005 10:32:59 AM PDT by Anthem (The only 20th century advance in the science of government was to tax a little less to take more.)
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125 posted on 10/17/2005 6:34:47 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (No response to trolls, retards, or lunatics.)
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To: mlc9852
"You guys really excel at attempting to make those who disagree with you look stupid. I'm ignorant - oh, well. By the way, that isn't going to win you any converts."

Well, have you spent decades studying this field of research in both university and the fields where the digs take place? Have you written peer-reviewed papers on this subject? I haven't and somehow I don't feel qualified to sum up another man's life's work as a meaningles string of conjectures just because I don't understand all of the ins ond outs. We're all, each of us, ignorant about so much. It's true I don't know much about Christianity either but I thought humility was a big part of the virtue Christians aspired to.

Perhaps I'm wrong.

126 posted on 10/17/2005 6:42:30 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: Ichneumon

I appreciate the support. Thanks.


127 posted on 10/18/2005 5:58:17 AM PDT by WildHorseCrash
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To: PatrickHenry

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