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I was wrong; so please join me in supporting Harriet Miers.

Posted on 10/09/2005 3:28:25 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

I decided to end my self-imposed exile from posting due to information that I received this past weekend from ‘a little birdie’ in Washington, which I subsequently had confirmed by another ‘insider’ if you can call him that.

You know I won’t tell, so don’t bother asking me for names, links, or further information. I trust these individuals, and have received accurate information from them before and shared it here on Free Republic. Of course, all are free to either accept or reject what I am about to share, but if you know anything about the Dog, I don’t change my mind often, and my only goal is to pass on information that can help support the Conservative agenda.

Issue 1.

Information was shared with me on Saturday, which described in no uncertain terms that Harriet Miers stands as the only nominee on Bush’s list which has any chance of confirmation by the Senate Judiciary Committee. The reasons for this are numerous, and would be embarrassing to the Conservative movement should one or many of the ‘stars’ who we hoped Bush would select be shot down in Committee, which again, if true, would be a certainty.

More than one of the persons we might have wanted made it clear to the President that they would not accept his nomination if selected. You can draw your own conclusions as to why, but the only hint I will provide is that data mining works too damn well these days. What we saw back when Clarence Thomas was nominated would seem like a walk in the park, compared to what would be done to some of our most popular jurists.

Our Democrat opponents have been quite busy, especially after John Roberts embarrassed them, searching for any information that would allow an open personal attack on a nominee. Sadly, many of the folks we wanted badly would have had their lives destroyed had they attempted confirmation to the bench, and wisely declined. There is no one among us who has not done (or had a family member do) things that we either regret, or would rather keep to ourselves. Because none of us are perfect, it is possible that had one of our choices been selected, we might have lived to regret that day for a very long time.

Issue 2.

Arlen Specter is in my opinion, a traitor to the Conservative movement. He has made it clear to the White House that he is determined to protect his legacy, by NOT supporting any name among those who might make it possible to overturn Rowe V. Wade. What that means, is that had Bush put up someone who might make us proud, Specter reneged on a PROMISE to support Bush’s judicial nominees in return for his, (and especially Rick Santorum’s) support for his re-election. This promise was made when there was strong consideration for removing Specter’s pending chairmanship in favor of John Coryn, or an extension to the term of Orrin Hatch.

The removal of Specter from the Chairmanship would have been disastrous, because he would have remained a committee member, and would have sided with Democrats against the President’s selections out of spite. So, why not simply remove Specter from the committee? That would have been really bad PR, considering Specter’s health issues at the time these decisions were being made.

One could argue that it might have been best to send up nominee after nominee, even if eventually defeated, but remember that O’Conner is only around hoping for a quick confirmation so that she can be with her ill husband. Bush was under the gun to come up with a confirmable candidate, or risk a Supreme Court not running at full strength as important rulings came under review.

I am told that Arlen Specter has gone back on every single promise he made when his chairmanship was still a question, and feels untouchable now that he is ill, because any punitive measures taken against him would be seen as ‘less than compassionate’ by the MSM and Democrats, who admittedly would have a field day, were Specter punished for his duplicity. The sad thing is that after “Scottish Law” or even the “Magic Bullet theory” that some think that anything that Arlen Specter says can be trusted. Sure, he supported Clarence Thomas, but does anyone believe that Specter would still be a Senator if he had not?

Issue 3.

Let’s face it; our Republican Senate is an embarrassment. From the weakness of Frist, to the petulance of the dude who ‘thinks he is leader’ McCain, down to his McCainiac compadre Lindsey (tinker-bell) Graham, to the nut from Mississippi who thinks he can actually get his leadership position back by actively rebelling against the President, we aint looking to good at all.

Our Republican Senate has as members at least 7 Democrats who could have never gotten elected as Democrats, who nonetheless support the Democrat agenda whenever they can get away with it, which unfortunately due to the weakness of Frist, is all too often. I find myself wishing Tom Delay would run for the Senate against Hutchinson, just so we can have someone in the Senate not afraid to break some heads to get things done. Why can’t we have a Republican Lyndon Johnson when we need one?

Because our Republican Senate is so weak, President Bush cannot rely on them for much. He could not have gotten majority support in this current Senate for any judicial nominee that would have made us proud. The usual suspects have made it clear to the President that any nominee who would have put their re-election prospects at risk would vote against that nominee. The bottom line, is that the Republican Senate is made up of too many who want the job, but not the work. The only job they see before them is that of getting re-elected to another six year term.

Luttig, McConnell, JRB, Owen, Alito, or anyone else you want to name, would have been defeated, and probably defeated in committee, in order to save other Senators from having to vote them down on the floor. Of this, I am now convinced. Only two names were considered allowable for Senate confirmation; Miers and Gonzales. When Bush met with Senators, he was reportedly told that these two names were the only ones that stood a chance to be confirmed, but Gonzales would face pointed questions about Abu Gharab, Gitmo, and the administration’s policy on torture. It would have been ugly, but he would have been confirmed against the added damage done by dejected a dejected conservative base, and liberal attacks on the President’s agenda. There would have also had to be a new search for an Attorney General, which would have been just as ugly.

Had Bush put up selections that would have been defeated, the chorus of ‘Lame Duck’ chanting coming out of Washington would have drowned out the President’s agenda. A defeat in the Senate would have also signaled to Congress that they were on their own, and no longer had to back up, support, or even listen to President Bush. They would have been free to play the political-calculation game that the Democrats have been playing for 6 years; avoiding tough votes that would be used against them in a future campaign.

So, what’s the bottom line?

The bottom line is that Bush did his best to give us what we want, in a way that will not hurt the prospects of the Conservative agenda. The primary thing that must be considered, is that the Congress can NEVER be put back in Democrat hands, for that would destroy all progress made up to now. Our day will come, but this aint it. If we had a Republican Senate made up of real patriots without the odd liberal in Republican clothing, things would be a lot better.

In Miers, Bush has clearly taken what he can get, and our best hope now is for another vacancy on the court before this administration’s term is up. The current makeup of the Congress will just not allow our agenda to be passed at this time without major sacrifices and pragmatic thinking to overcome the inherit weakness of having traitors in our midst.

It appears to me that Harriet Miers is the best CONFIRMABLE candidate for the Supreme Court at this time. This fact is not the fault of the President. Indeed it is OUR fault. It is us who have supported less than the best candidates for the Senate. We are responsible for Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist and other persons of questionable courage. We should not be blaming Bush for our own votes. We selected the people that the President must rely upon to move his agenda forward. If they are losers, then he loses too.

Though they literally suck, we are stuck with these people because we must keep the majority to keep our agenda alive. There have been worse moments for us, but none would be worse than than the day we lose the Senate our House majorities. I now believe that although Bush disapointed many of us, that he did the very best he could do without destroying our momentum.

Yes, like Rush Limbaugh said, it was a choice made from weakness.

But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush’s weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen. Had they been strong, Bush could have selected anyone we wanted.

Because of what I now know about how and why Harriet Miers was selected, I withdraw my earlier statements against her, my statements suggesting anything less than my strong support of the President, and finally, my self imposed exile from Free Republic.

Pukin Dog is back, so deal with it.


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To: Soul Seeker
If the president knows Miers to be an originalist, then wouldn't the best thing for him to do would be to nominate Miers and save the weasel smoke for another fight?

No, because... 1) We have no guarentee of another opening. 2) Once the primaries heat up, he'll be weakened in influence.

I disagree.

If Miers = stealth + originalist
Then Mier = good

681 posted on 10/09/2005 8:01:41 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Miss Marple
What I really think is that the President knew Specter was a weasel, but he was needed as a warm body to attain the majority. The most important thing was to attain the numbers to get the committees and the agenda.

A GOP Senate majority was in the bag, with or without Specter. Chair of judiciary would have gone to Kyl if Specter's seat was filled by Toomey.

GWB did not want that outcome. GWB wanted Specter.

682 posted on 10/09/2005 8:02:30 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
So I guess we have now come full circle, You State

The "ruling class" are those who the people have elected to office. The lazy people want to be lead, and are easily mislead.

So do you have an alternative? As far as I know there are the Democrates and the Republican, as it stands right now - I'll cast my lot with the RNC.

683 posted on 10/09/2005 8:02:30 PM PDT by TheHound (You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
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To: Pukin Dog

"He had the stones to renominate those who were filibustered, so that says something."

He also issued some recess appointments, he's been pretty tough. Now if we just could get about two more Senators. Florida, ND, SD.


684 posted on 10/09/2005 8:02:49 PM PDT by KingKongCobra (Trying to save the "Donner Party" from themselves.)
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To: Sally'sConcerns

Nope.

I'm just an innocent bystander in all of this.


685 posted on 10/09/2005 8:04:48 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: Torie
Spector's word is not worth snot.
686 posted on 10/09/2005 8:04:58 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (To err is human; to moo is bovine.)
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To: FreeReign

You are free to disagree. With sincere intent meant, I thank you for doing it respectfully.


687 posted on 10/09/2005 8:05:52 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: streetpreacher
"So you expect us to believe that every qualified constitutionalist jurist declined the nomination based on skeletons in their closets?"
I don't know why you would have a problem believing this.

Didn't the same thing happen to Perot?

Someone (the evil Bush's, in his mind) had pictures of his daughter that were going to be exposed just before her wedding.

Apparently this kind of stuff happens all of the time.

/sarcasm

688 posted on 10/09/2005 8:08:08 PM PDT by Souled_Out
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To: Cboldt

I think you are wrong. It seems to me that it was pretty close. I will have to go back and look at that election cycle, and can't do so tonight.


689 posted on 10/09/2005 8:09:27 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Miss Marple
Evan Bayh ignores all of my calls.

I've not had the privilege of knowing either way, but his staff hears from me despite his leanings. They heard from me on this nomination, too, in the event Harriet Miers gets through committee.

690 posted on 10/09/2005 8:11:35 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (Hillary and cattle. It's the future, and it's blight.)
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To: Pukin Dog
I have not really been able to express just how disappointed I am at the nomination of Miers. That being said, I must say that your post is the best thing I've read in defense of the Miers nomination and President Bush. It didn't call me a whiner, an elitist, an unappeasable, or say that I might as well vote for Hillary or some such crap. If your information is reliable, it will go a long way to convince me to lay off the President and the nomination of Miers.

Thank you. Excellent post.

691 posted on 10/09/2005 8:12:55 PM PDT by Spiff (Robert Bork on the Miers Nomination: "I think it's a disaster on every level.")
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To: TheHound
So do you have an alternative? As far as I know there are the Democrates and the Republican, as it stands right now - I'll cast my lot with the RNC.

You can blame me for Oly Snowe and Suzy Collins.

But I really don't find the "Choose us or the DEM's" argument attractive. "We suck less than they do."

/me holds nose and votes.

692 posted on 10/09/2005 8:13:33 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Thanks for the ping, Victoria. I was going to ping you to this thread as soon as I saw it, but you beat me to it!


693 posted on 10/09/2005 8:15:10 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: Souled_Out

Kind of makes one wonder why Clinton was so concerned about revelations of sex in the Oval Office. Why would a well-connected mobster have the slightest compunction over such revelations? Oh. It's his "legacy" that needs to be preserved. Gimme a break!


694 posted on 10/09/2005 8:16:10 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (Hillary and cattle. It's the future, and it's blight.)
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To: Miss Marple
I think you are wrong. It seems to me that it [projected GOP/DEM split for the Senate] was pretty close.

From memory, and I appreciate your indulgence and corrections, the Toomey/Specter primary was close, and that is where the President weighed in. The justification for supporting Specter was that the President always supports incumbents, and that is a good rationale. But the President does not support all incumbents. The President wanted Specter to win the primary.

695 posted on 10/09/2005 8:21:29 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Alberta's Child
Great essay. Glad you read it.

And the Yankees won 3 – 2. Woohoo!!!

696 posted on 10/09/2005 8:21:41 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Miss Marple
"What I really think is that the President knew Specter was a weasel, but he was needed as a warm body to attain the majority. The most important thing was to attain the numbers to get the committees and the agenda."

This is worth repeating. Some posters today have questioned Bush's 2004 decision, claiming that the Senate majority was in the bag. But no election can ever be a sure thing, and Bush just wasn't willing to risk it.

We might disagree, but we're not sitting in the White House. He's our leader, and we follow. Reagan taught us you are never going to get 100% of what you want.

697 posted on 10/09/2005 8:23:40 PM PDT by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Excellent post. Very sad, however, that we have such a bunch of wimps and the Dems are so completely unscrupulous.


698 posted on 10/09/2005 8:23:51 PM PDT by arjay (May God give President Bush strength and comfort in this time of struggle!)
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To: Tennessean4Bush
Tell the Republican Senators that absolutley nothing will be passed without his veto and a fight until they confirm his nominee.

And they will tell him they will no longer fund the war or some other thing he must have.

699 posted on 10/09/2005 8:28:53 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: Spiff
...best thing I've read in defense of the Miers nomination and President Bush.

...also see Thomas Sowell's comments.

Link

700 posted on 10/09/2005 8:29:18 PM PDT by FreeReign
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