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I was wrong; so please join me in supporting Harriet Miers.

Posted on 10/09/2005 3:28:25 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

I decided to end my self-imposed exile from posting due to information that I received this past weekend from ‘a little birdie’ in Washington, which I subsequently had confirmed by another ‘insider’ if you can call him that.

You know I won’t tell, so don’t bother asking me for names, links, or further information. I trust these individuals, and have received accurate information from them before and shared it here on Free Republic. Of course, all are free to either accept or reject what I am about to share, but if you know anything about the Dog, I don’t change my mind often, and my only goal is to pass on information that can help support the Conservative agenda.

Issue 1.

Information was shared with me on Saturday, which described in no uncertain terms that Harriet Miers stands as the only nominee on Bush’s list which has any chance of confirmation by the Senate Judiciary Committee. The reasons for this are numerous, and would be embarrassing to the Conservative movement should one or many of the ‘stars’ who we hoped Bush would select be shot down in Committee, which again, if true, would be a certainty.

More than one of the persons we might have wanted made it clear to the President that they would not accept his nomination if selected. You can draw your own conclusions as to why, but the only hint I will provide is that data mining works too damn well these days. What we saw back when Clarence Thomas was nominated would seem like a walk in the park, compared to what would be done to some of our most popular jurists.

Our Democrat opponents have been quite busy, especially after John Roberts embarrassed them, searching for any information that would allow an open personal attack on a nominee. Sadly, many of the folks we wanted badly would have had their lives destroyed had they attempted confirmation to the bench, and wisely declined. There is no one among us who has not done (or had a family member do) things that we either regret, or would rather keep to ourselves. Because none of us are perfect, it is possible that had one of our choices been selected, we might have lived to regret that day for a very long time.

Issue 2.

Arlen Specter is in my opinion, a traitor to the Conservative movement. He has made it clear to the White House that he is determined to protect his legacy, by NOT supporting any name among those who might make it possible to overturn Rowe V. Wade. What that means, is that had Bush put up someone who might make us proud, Specter reneged on a PROMISE to support Bush’s judicial nominees in return for his, (and especially Rick Santorum’s) support for his re-election. This promise was made when there was strong consideration for removing Specter’s pending chairmanship in favor of John Coryn, or an extension to the term of Orrin Hatch.

The removal of Specter from the Chairmanship would have been disastrous, because he would have remained a committee member, and would have sided with Democrats against the President’s selections out of spite. So, why not simply remove Specter from the committee? That would have been really bad PR, considering Specter’s health issues at the time these decisions were being made.

One could argue that it might have been best to send up nominee after nominee, even if eventually defeated, but remember that O’Conner is only around hoping for a quick confirmation so that she can be with her ill husband. Bush was under the gun to come up with a confirmable candidate, or risk a Supreme Court not running at full strength as important rulings came under review.

I am told that Arlen Specter has gone back on every single promise he made when his chairmanship was still a question, and feels untouchable now that he is ill, because any punitive measures taken against him would be seen as ‘less than compassionate’ by the MSM and Democrats, who admittedly would have a field day, were Specter punished for his duplicity. The sad thing is that after “Scottish Law” or even the “Magic Bullet theory” that some think that anything that Arlen Specter says can be trusted. Sure, he supported Clarence Thomas, but does anyone believe that Specter would still be a Senator if he had not?

Issue 3.

Let’s face it; our Republican Senate is an embarrassment. From the weakness of Frist, to the petulance of the dude who ‘thinks he is leader’ McCain, down to his McCainiac compadre Lindsey (tinker-bell) Graham, to the nut from Mississippi who thinks he can actually get his leadership position back by actively rebelling against the President, we aint looking to good at all.

Our Republican Senate has as members at least 7 Democrats who could have never gotten elected as Democrats, who nonetheless support the Democrat agenda whenever they can get away with it, which unfortunately due to the weakness of Frist, is all too often. I find myself wishing Tom Delay would run for the Senate against Hutchinson, just so we can have someone in the Senate not afraid to break some heads to get things done. Why can’t we have a Republican Lyndon Johnson when we need one?

Because our Republican Senate is so weak, President Bush cannot rely on them for much. He could not have gotten majority support in this current Senate for any judicial nominee that would have made us proud. The usual suspects have made it clear to the President that any nominee who would have put their re-election prospects at risk would vote against that nominee. The bottom line, is that the Republican Senate is made up of too many who want the job, but not the work. The only job they see before them is that of getting re-elected to another six year term.

Luttig, McConnell, JRB, Owen, Alito, or anyone else you want to name, would have been defeated, and probably defeated in committee, in order to save other Senators from having to vote them down on the floor. Of this, I am now convinced. Only two names were considered allowable for Senate confirmation; Miers and Gonzales. When Bush met with Senators, he was reportedly told that these two names were the only ones that stood a chance to be confirmed, but Gonzales would face pointed questions about Abu Gharab, Gitmo, and the administration’s policy on torture. It would have been ugly, but he would have been confirmed against the added damage done by dejected a dejected conservative base, and liberal attacks on the President’s agenda. There would have also had to be a new search for an Attorney General, which would have been just as ugly.

Had Bush put up selections that would have been defeated, the chorus of ‘Lame Duck’ chanting coming out of Washington would have drowned out the President’s agenda. A defeat in the Senate would have also signaled to Congress that they were on their own, and no longer had to back up, support, or even listen to President Bush. They would have been free to play the political-calculation game that the Democrats have been playing for 6 years; avoiding tough votes that would be used against them in a future campaign.

So, what’s the bottom line?

The bottom line is that Bush did his best to give us what we want, in a way that will not hurt the prospects of the Conservative agenda. The primary thing that must be considered, is that the Congress can NEVER be put back in Democrat hands, for that would destroy all progress made up to now. Our day will come, but this aint it. If we had a Republican Senate made up of real patriots without the odd liberal in Republican clothing, things would be a lot better.

In Miers, Bush has clearly taken what he can get, and our best hope now is for another vacancy on the court before this administration’s term is up. The current makeup of the Congress will just not allow our agenda to be passed at this time without major sacrifices and pragmatic thinking to overcome the inherit weakness of having traitors in our midst.

It appears to me that Harriet Miers is the best CONFIRMABLE candidate for the Supreme Court at this time. This fact is not the fault of the President. Indeed it is OUR fault. It is us who have supported less than the best candidates for the Senate. We are responsible for Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist and other persons of questionable courage. We should not be blaming Bush for our own votes. We selected the people that the President must rely upon to move his agenda forward. If they are losers, then he loses too.

Though they literally suck, we are stuck with these people because we must keep the majority to keep our agenda alive. There have been worse moments for us, but none would be worse than than the day we lose the Senate our House majorities. I now believe that although Bush disapointed many of us, that he did the very best he could do without destroying our momentum.

Yes, like Rush Limbaugh said, it was a choice made from weakness.

But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush’s weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen. Had they been strong, Bush could have selected anyone we wanted.

Because of what I now know about how and why Harriet Miers was selected, I withdraw my earlier statements against her, my statements suggesting anything less than my strong support of the President, and finally, my self imposed exile from Free Republic.

Pukin Dog is back, so deal with it.


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To: Cicero
"we" are responsible for Arlen Specter being in the Senate.

No, the people of Pennsylvania in both the primary and the general election voted for the guy. They are responsible.

There are ways to make RINOs toe the line, and they don't depend entirely on the Republican leadership in the Senate. How many bills has Bush vetoed? How often has he disciplined dissenting RINOs by taking away their pork? How often has he punished his enemies when they got out of line? No wonder he can't control the party.

The RINO's as a block can stop anything that they want. They have that power. It is the people who elected them that gave them that power.

381 posted on 10/09/2005 5:07:05 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Black Tooth

LOL.

I don't agree with you, but that is funny. I'll give you that.


382 posted on 10/09/2005 5:07:14 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Pukin Dog
If we had a Republican Senate made up of real patriots without the odd liberal in Republican clothing, things would be a lot better.

As accurate a picture as can be painted about the current lot of Senate Republicans.

383 posted on 10/09/2005 5:07:18 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Pukin Dog

yessem....as was I.


384 posted on 10/09/2005 5:07:35 PM PDT by Annie5622
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To: zendari
It's a simple fact that Harry Reid and the Democratic leadership simply outclasses Frist and company.

I suspect -- but don't know -- a lot of this has to do with intraparty Senate rules, like the Republican rule term-limiting chairmen (I don't think the Dems have a similar rule). Or maybe it's FBI files? I asked on another thread how the Dems enforce party discipline, but no one answered. So I'm asking again if anyone knows.

385 posted on 10/09/2005 5:07:39 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Pukin Dog
We cant win with this Senate. We can only stand-pat at best.

But giving up without clearly citing WHY is, well, disingenuous. If the President can't win with the Senate holding out a 60 vote hurdle, he ought to make that an issue. It is a constitutional crisis, but the President seems to be not bothered by it.

386 posted on 10/09/2005 5:08:00 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Guenevere

You are 100% correct. I always watch FNS, and Brit did ALL the spanking today.


387 posted on 10/09/2005 5:08:09 PM PDT by Beagle8U
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To: Pukin Dog

LOL

Are you sure you're not a female? This back and forth...it's almost hormonal! ;)


388 posted on 10/09/2005 5:08:47 PM PDT by Chgogal (Consistency and FR admin. moderators are like oil and water.)
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To: A Jovial Cad

Welcome to FR.


389 posted on 10/09/2005 5:08:51 PM PDT by Principled
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To: citizencon
LOL.

I can just hear his press conference: "Ladies and Gentlemen...Harriet Miers. She wasn't my first choice, but she'll have to do."

LOL. I think I've been to a couple of weddings like that.
390 posted on 10/09/2005 5:09:01 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Pukin Dog

Actually RINO Lindsay Graham said much the same things as you are saying. I hated to, but I agree.


391 posted on 10/09/2005 5:09:06 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: Iwo Jima
I didn't say skeletons....did I say skeletons?...No, I didn't say skeletons.

I said she had 'quite the activism'.....

..but if you heard what I heard, you surely don't seem to have the imprint I have of Brit practically hissing this in Kristol's face.

It was a very sharp retort.

And activism can be skeleton wannabe's if a vetting committee is out for blood.

392 posted on 10/09/2005 5:10:11 PM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: Pukin Dog
What that means, is that had Bush put up someone who might make us proud, Specter reneged on a PROMISE to support Bush’s judicial nominees in return for his, (and especially Rick Santorum’s) support for his re-election.

Spector never made such a promise. He promised to move Bush's nominations along in commitee and get them promt hearings and a vote. It would be completely unethical to pledge to support nominees without knowing who they might be.

393 posted on 10/09/2005 5:10:33 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Pukin Dog

Its safe to call this not a game of checkers but of Grand Master Chess. On Monday Specter took the podium claiming that a
potential maelstrom had been avoided by the appointment of Miers. After that Schumer spoke an said that the President was in a "box". Specters body language bespoke great confidence and a sense of personal triumph. Schumer's attitude was one of being still in the Majority. There was something humiliating in it all. Then as we watched the Presidents body language in presenting
Ms Miers, well let us say that he acted as though he did not want to be there or was not even there so was his lack of enthusiasm and pride in presentation. The question is whether this is real weakness or contrived weakness. In high stakes chess like this and with a climate and culture of declining trust in officials and in institutions righteous anger and mistrust is completely understandable.


394 posted on 10/09/2005 5:10:35 PM PDT by NixonsAngryGhost (WARNING- Arlen Specters Brain is Radioactive)
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To: Pukin Dog
We have to keep our RINO's until we can purge them safely.

Unfortunately, that appears to be never. They've been there forever and show no signs of leaving until they die in their chairs.

I'm not going to get old waiting; we need to develop some parallel paths to independence, independent of Big Stupid Government, because the Republican Party sure as hell isn't going to fix, or even slow the growth of, BSG. That's now painfully clear.

395 posted on 10/09/2005 5:10:56 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Pukin Dog

If only we knew what you knew eh?


396 posted on 10/09/2005 5:10:58 PM PDT by voteconstitutionparty
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To: counterpunch
Santorum is going to lose his re-election bid for supporting "Scotty".

I read that Santorum owed Specter for supporting him when he ran. And isn't Santorum going to be running against Casey (who I believe is very popular)?

397 posted on 10/09/2005 5:11:11 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Principled; A Jovial Cad

"Welcome to FR."

What's up with this "Fuzzy math"? Looks like AJC signed up in 2002.

WHOOPS


398 posted on 10/09/2005 5:11:31 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Mike Pence for President!!! http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp)
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To: Pukin Dog
We are responsible for Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist and other persons of questionable courage.

What about Specter, didn't mention him, perhaps because he would have lost his primary without Bush and Santorum's support. With that support Specter only got 51%.

You did mention, Chaffee.... just look at what the National Republican Senatorial Committee is doing to fellow Republican and Chaffee opponent Mayor Steve Laffey:

ANNCR: “Have you seen this guy Steve Laffey?”

AD: “I’m Steve Laffey…”

ANNCR: “In his TV ads, he complains about oil companies… But he’s the same Steve Laffey who ran a company selling oil industry stocks on Wall Street. Profiting from offshore drilling. The oil companies made a fortune. Steve Laffey made a fortune. Now Laffey says he will . . .”

AD: “. . . stand up to the special interests.”

ANNCR: “Slick. Steve Laffey. Laughing all the way to the bank. The National Republican Senatorial Committee is responsible for the content of this ad.”

Link available at http://www.nrsc.org/newsdesk/document.aspx?ID=966

399 posted on 10/09/2005 5:11:32 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (you call me a right wing extremist like it's a bad thing.....)
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To: MojoWire
MojoWire,

You wrote "who has an acceptable on-legislative-from-the-bench conservative type of record" .....

How would we have known that they wouldn't be a Souter or a Kennedy? From what I understand, that's what they had.
400 posted on 10/09/2005 5:11:54 PM PDT by Bush 100 Percent
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