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I was wrong; so please join me in supporting Harriet Miers.

Posted on 10/09/2005 3:28:25 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

I decided to end my self-imposed exile from posting due to information that I received this past weekend from ‘a little birdie’ in Washington, which I subsequently had confirmed by another ‘insider’ if you can call him that.

You know I won’t tell, so don’t bother asking me for names, links, or further information. I trust these individuals, and have received accurate information from them before and shared it here on Free Republic. Of course, all are free to either accept or reject what I am about to share, but if you know anything about the Dog, I don’t change my mind often, and my only goal is to pass on information that can help support the Conservative agenda.

Issue 1.

Information was shared with me on Saturday, which described in no uncertain terms that Harriet Miers stands as the only nominee on Bush’s list which has any chance of confirmation by the Senate Judiciary Committee. The reasons for this are numerous, and would be embarrassing to the Conservative movement should one or many of the ‘stars’ who we hoped Bush would select be shot down in Committee, which again, if true, would be a certainty.

More than one of the persons we might have wanted made it clear to the President that they would not accept his nomination if selected. You can draw your own conclusions as to why, but the only hint I will provide is that data mining works too damn well these days. What we saw back when Clarence Thomas was nominated would seem like a walk in the park, compared to what would be done to some of our most popular jurists.

Our Democrat opponents have been quite busy, especially after John Roberts embarrassed them, searching for any information that would allow an open personal attack on a nominee. Sadly, many of the folks we wanted badly would have had their lives destroyed had they attempted confirmation to the bench, and wisely declined. There is no one among us who has not done (or had a family member do) things that we either regret, or would rather keep to ourselves. Because none of us are perfect, it is possible that had one of our choices been selected, we might have lived to regret that day for a very long time.

Issue 2.

Arlen Specter is in my opinion, a traitor to the Conservative movement. He has made it clear to the White House that he is determined to protect his legacy, by NOT supporting any name among those who might make it possible to overturn Rowe V. Wade. What that means, is that had Bush put up someone who might make us proud, Specter reneged on a PROMISE to support Bush’s judicial nominees in return for his, (and especially Rick Santorum’s) support for his re-election. This promise was made when there was strong consideration for removing Specter’s pending chairmanship in favor of John Coryn, or an extension to the term of Orrin Hatch.

The removal of Specter from the Chairmanship would have been disastrous, because he would have remained a committee member, and would have sided with Democrats against the President’s selections out of spite. So, why not simply remove Specter from the committee? That would have been really bad PR, considering Specter’s health issues at the time these decisions were being made.

One could argue that it might have been best to send up nominee after nominee, even if eventually defeated, but remember that O’Conner is only around hoping for a quick confirmation so that she can be with her ill husband. Bush was under the gun to come up with a confirmable candidate, or risk a Supreme Court not running at full strength as important rulings came under review.

I am told that Arlen Specter has gone back on every single promise he made when his chairmanship was still a question, and feels untouchable now that he is ill, because any punitive measures taken against him would be seen as ‘less than compassionate’ by the MSM and Democrats, who admittedly would have a field day, were Specter punished for his duplicity. The sad thing is that after “Scottish Law” or even the “Magic Bullet theory” that some think that anything that Arlen Specter says can be trusted. Sure, he supported Clarence Thomas, but does anyone believe that Specter would still be a Senator if he had not?

Issue 3.

Let’s face it; our Republican Senate is an embarrassment. From the weakness of Frist, to the petulance of the dude who ‘thinks he is leader’ McCain, down to his McCainiac compadre Lindsey (tinker-bell) Graham, to the nut from Mississippi who thinks he can actually get his leadership position back by actively rebelling against the President, we aint looking to good at all.

Our Republican Senate has as members at least 7 Democrats who could have never gotten elected as Democrats, who nonetheless support the Democrat agenda whenever they can get away with it, which unfortunately due to the weakness of Frist, is all too often. I find myself wishing Tom Delay would run for the Senate against Hutchinson, just so we can have someone in the Senate not afraid to break some heads to get things done. Why can’t we have a Republican Lyndon Johnson when we need one?

Because our Republican Senate is so weak, President Bush cannot rely on them for much. He could not have gotten majority support in this current Senate for any judicial nominee that would have made us proud. The usual suspects have made it clear to the President that any nominee who would have put their re-election prospects at risk would vote against that nominee. The bottom line, is that the Republican Senate is made up of too many who want the job, but not the work. The only job they see before them is that of getting re-elected to another six year term.

Luttig, McConnell, JRB, Owen, Alito, or anyone else you want to name, would have been defeated, and probably defeated in committee, in order to save other Senators from having to vote them down on the floor. Of this, I am now convinced. Only two names were considered allowable for Senate confirmation; Miers and Gonzales. When Bush met with Senators, he was reportedly told that these two names were the only ones that stood a chance to be confirmed, but Gonzales would face pointed questions about Abu Gharab, Gitmo, and the administration’s policy on torture. It would have been ugly, but he would have been confirmed against the added damage done by dejected a dejected conservative base, and liberal attacks on the President’s agenda. There would have also had to be a new search for an Attorney General, which would have been just as ugly.

Had Bush put up selections that would have been defeated, the chorus of ‘Lame Duck’ chanting coming out of Washington would have drowned out the President’s agenda. A defeat in the Senate would have also signaled to Congress that they were on their own, and no longer had to back up, support, or even listen to President Bush. They would have been free to play the political-calculation game that the Democrats have been playing for 6 years; avoiding tough votes that would be used against them in a future campaign.

So, what’s the bottom line?

The bottom line is that Bush did his best to give us what we want, in a way that will not hurt the prospects of the Conservative agenda. The primary thing that must be considered, is that the Congress can NEVER be put back in Democrat hands, for that would destroy all progress made up to now. Our day will come, but this aint it. If we had a Republican Senate made up of real patriots without the odd liberal in Republican clothing, things would be a lot better.

In Miers, Bush has clearly taken what he can get, and our best hope now is for another vacancy on the court before this administration’s term is up. The current makeup of the Congress will just not allow our agenda to be passed at this time without major sacrifices and pragmatic thinking to overcome the inherit weakness of having traitors in our midst.

It appears to me that Harriet Miers is the best CONFIRMABLE candidate for the Supreme Court at this time. This fact is not the fault of the President. Indeed it is OUR fault. It is us who have supported less than the best candidates for the Senate. We are responsible for Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist and other persons of questionable courage. We should not be blaming Bush for our own votes. We selected the people that the President must rely upon to move his agenda forward. If they are losers, then he loses too.

Though they literally suck, we are stuck with these people because we must keep the majority to keep our agenda alive. There have been worse moments for us, but none would be worse than than the day we lose the Senate our House majorities. I now believe that although Bush disapointed many of us, that he did the very best he could do without destroying our momentum.

Yes, like Rush Limbaugh said, it was a choice made from weakness.

But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush’s weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen. Had they been strong, Bush could have selected anyone we wanted.

Because of what I now know about how and why Harriet Miers was selected, I withdraw my earlier statements against her, my statements suggesting anything less than my strong support of the President, and finally, my self imposed exile from Free Republic.

Pukin Dog is back, so deal with it.


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To: Pukin Dog
>>> Where was he? Is he still on?

You'll need to come up with a transcript of FoxNews Sunday's Panel segment.
201 posted on 10/09/2005 4:16:52 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Liberals - Stuck on Stupid.)
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To: Pukin Dog
Welcome back...knew you would.

Good info too...strange things permeate that power stream.

Enjoy!


202 posted on 10/09/2005 4:17:12 PM PDT by Colonial Warrior ("I've entered the snapdragon part of my life....Part of me has snapped...the rest is draggin'.")
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To: Pukin Dog
Yeah - some sausage making going on. No doubt.

Thanks for the post - good one.

203 posted on 10/09/2005 4:17:49 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (To err is human; to moo is bovine.)
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To: Hank Rearden
I know Hank, but it would be worse if Democrats were making the rules. We have to keep our RINO's until we can purge them safely. If we lose the majority, we wont get it back in my lifetime.
204 posted on 10/09/2005 4:17:55 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Your unsourced "information" is useless.


205 posted on 10/09/2005 4:18:08 PM PDT by Chunga (Mock The Left)
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To: Pukin Dog
Sorry to see you go
Welcome back
Sorry to see you go
Welcome back
Sorry to see you go

Welcome back

I'm sure I won't be jumping the gun by more than a week or two when I say I'm sorry to see you go...

206 posted on 10/09/2005 4:18:09 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Pukin Dog

Although your posting made a lot of sense, I still have a hard time believing that the Bush Administration could not find one candidate, NOT ONE JUDGE or law professor or whatever, in the entire country who has an acceptable non-legislative-from-the-bench conservative type of record.

Not one!! Hard to believe.


207 posted on 10/09/2005 4:18:10 PM PDT by Edit35
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To: Pukin Dog; Miss Marple; All
I'll keep saying it till someone listens PK....

PUKIN DOG DID NOT MAKE THIS UP!....BRIT HUME SAID THE SAME THING ON THE PANEL DISCUSSION WITH CHRIS WALLACE....AND HE POINTEDLY WAS TALKING TO BILL KRISTOL!.....I heard this only a few minutes ago!...

208 posted on 10/09/2005 4:18:15 PM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: Pukin Dog

"secret sources"?

i'm not sure why... i read the whole post and it seems to be about 60% critical thinking, 30% logic/common sense, and maybe 10% conjecture. what secret source did you need to post this?


209 posted on 10/09/2005 4:18:50 PM PDT by kpp_kpp
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To: oceanview

"And I still want to know why, if Specter is supposedly adamant about not voting for someone who will toss Roe - why is he supporting Miers? what does Spector know about Miers on this issue that allows him to vote for her?"

No paper trail. It's all politics. What a surprise!


210 posted on 10/09/2005 4:18:50 PM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY and her HINO want to take over your country. STOP THEM NOW!)
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To: Guenevere

Putting it in large black font is not a substitute for gravitas. What did Brit say, and did he say all the rest in the running had skeletons, and/or lacked the votes?


211 posted on 10/09/2005 4:19:07 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Pukin Dog

with this info you have, is there any mention how roberts reaction or the rest of the supremes for that matter feel about miers nomination?


212 posted on 10/09/2005 4:19:28 PM PDT by ronnied (we are the only animals that bare our teeth in greeting...)
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To: Torie

>
Let me help you with some of this. Being on SCOTUS 30 years after being a party animal in college, is different than flying a jet as a young man, having indulged as a young man. Gephardt back when was sort of apolgetic about his clean living ways, when the subject came up. In any event, the point is that the comment that this could in any way be a skeleton is ludicrous. If it were made an issue of, there would be a huge backlash.
>

Oh, heavens. I did not realize you do not know of this. Best you Google Douglas Ginsberg. USSC nominee by Ronald Reagan. Withdrew from consideration after admitting to smoking pot.


213 posted on 10/09/2005 4:20:23 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Pukin Dog

AS SHOWN BY THE COMMENTS TO YOUR POST...THE ONLY GOOD THING WE SEEM TO BE GOOD AT IS SHOOTING EACH OTHER!!!!And we wonder why the Senate can't get together, we can't even do that on this site!!!!


214 posted on 10/09/2005 4:20:23 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: streetpreacher; Pukin Dog

"The army we have is the one Mr. Rumsfeld and Cheney wanted."

When it comes to the culture war, of which the Senate is of course a crucial battleground with the prize being Lady Liberty's very honor, I want both conventional and Nuclear Option weaponry...and battalions of precinct footsoldiers between elections in every district....


215 posted on 10/09/2005 4:20:33 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: Torie
Specter would have joined with the committee democrats against anyone with a track record against Rowe. He said so. If that is not veto power, I don't know what is. Specter could sink anyone in committee.
216 posted on 10/09/2005 4:20:48 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: conservativebabe

"Now, you are doing the very thing you accuse PD of, making it about you."

way too frequent a happening on FR these days.


217 posted on 10/09/2005 4:20:56 PM PDT by Annie5622
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To: Pukin Dog
Welcome back Pukin Dog!

Nice to have you back!

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

218 posted on 10/09/2005 4:21:29 PM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Pukin Dog
Look, all I want, is to crush the Democrats.

The precise reason I respect you—keep your eyes on the goal...which is to make progress rather than throwing it all away in search of temporary satisfaction.

I really appreciate and value your optimism, and after reading this thread I'm going with courageous. It's hard to take back publicly stated conclusions, even when they were drawn without full knowledge of the facts.

As disappointing as FR is to me sometimes, it is certainly addictive. There is no where else like it. I can not tell you how upsetting it is when the optimists appear to be bowing out.

Thanks for sharing info...and thanks for staying positive.

219 posted on 10/09/2005 4:21:35 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Pukin Dog; Congressman Billybob
Welcome back, I guess.

Part of me thinks that there should be Free Republic NORTH and Free Republic SOUTH. And all the PRO Miers types should attend the FR South and the anti-Miers anti-Bush anti-anything that doesn't wear a brownshirt can bi*&h to each other on the FR North..

Glad you've joined the good side

220 posted on 10/09/2005 4:21:38 PM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (Admn Mods: tiny, malicious things that glare and gibber from dark corners.They have pins and dolls..)
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