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I was wrong; so please join me in supporting Harriet Miers.

Posted on 10/09/2005 3:28:25 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

I decided to end my self-imposed exile from posting due to information that I received this past weekend from ‘a little birdie’ in Washington, which I subsequently had confirmed by another ‘insider’ if you can call him that.

You know I won’t tell, so don’t bother asking me for names, links, or further information. I trust these individuals, and have received accurate information from them before and shared it here on Free Republic. Of course, all are free to either accept or reject what I am about to share, but if you know anything about the Dog, I don’t change my mind often, and my only goal is to pass on information that can help support the Conservative agenda.

Issue 1.

Information was shared with me on Saturday, which described in no uncertain terms that Harriet Miers stands as the only nominee on Bush’s list which has any chance of confirmation by the Senate Judiciary Committee. The reasons for this are numerous, and would be embarrassing to the Conservative movement should one or many of the ‘stars’ who we hoped Bush would select be shot down in Committee, which again, if true, would be a certainty.

More than one of the persons we might have wanted made it clear to the President that they would not accept his nomination if selected. You can draw your own conclusions as to why, but the only hint I will provide is that data mining works too damn well these days. What we saw back when Clarence Thomas was nominated would seem like a walk in the park, compared to what would be done to some of our most popular jurists.

Our Democrat opponents have been quite busy, especially after John Roberts embarrassed them, searching for any information that would allow an open personal attack on a nominee. Sadly, many of the folks we wanted badly would have had their lives destroyed had they attempted confirmation to the bench, and wisely declined. There is no one among us who has not done (or had a family member do) things that we either regret, or would rather keep to ourselves. Because none of us are perfect, it is possible that had one of our choices been selected, we might have lived to regret that day for a very long time.

Issue 2.

Arlen Specter is in my opinion, a traitor to the Conservative movement. He has made it clear to the White House that he is determined to protect his legacy, by NOT supporting any name among those who might make it possible to overturn Rowe V. Wade. What that means, is that had Bush put up someone who might make us proud, Specter reneged on a PROMISE to support Bush’s judicial nominees in return for his, (and especially Rick Santorum’s) support for his re-election. This promise was made when there was strong consideration for removing Specter’s pending chairmanship in favor of John Coryn, or an extension to the term of Orrin Hatch.

The removal of Specter from the Chairmanship would have been disastrous, because he would have remained a committee member, and would have sided with Democrats against the President’s selections out of spite. So, why not simply remove Specter from the committee? That would have been really bad PR, considering Specter’s health issues at the time these decisions were being made.

One could argue that it might have been best to send up nominee after nominee, even if eventually defeated, but remember that O’Conner is only around hoping for a quick confirmation so that she can be with her ill husband. Bush was under the gun to come up with a confirmable candidate, or risk a Supreme Court not running at full strength as important rulings came under review.

I am told that Arlen Specter has gone back on every single promise he made when his chairmanship was still a question, and feels untouchable now that he is ill, because any punitive measures taken against him would be seen as ‘less than compassionate’ by the MSM and Democrats, who admittedly would have a field day, were Specter punished for his duplicity. The sad thing is that after “Scottish Law” or even the “Magic Bullet theory” that some think that anything that Arlen Specter says can be trusted. Sure, he supported Clarence Thomas, but does anyone believe that Specter would still be a Senator if he had not?

Issue 3.

Let’s face it; our Republican Senate is an embarrassment. From the weakness of Frist, to the petulance of the dude who ‘thinks he is leader’ McCain, down to his McCainiac compadre Lindsey (tinker-bell) Graham, to the nut from Mississippi who thinks he can actually get his leadership position back by actively rebelling against the President, we aint looking to good at all.

Our Republican Senate has as members at least 7 Democrats who could have never gotten elected as Democrats, who nonetheless support the Democrat agenda whenever they can get away with it, which unfortunately due to the weakness of Frist, is all too often. I find myself wishing Tom Delay would run for the Senate against Hutchinson, just so we can have someone in the Senate not afraid to break some heads to get things done. Why can’t we have a Republican Lyndon Johnson when we need one?

Because our Republican Senate is so weak, President Bush cannot rely on them for much. He could not have gotten majority support in this current Senate for any judicial nominee that would have made us proud. The usual suspects have made it clear to the President that any nominee who would have put their re-election prospects at risk would vote against that nominee. The bottom line, is that the Republican Senate is made up of too many who want the job, but not the work. The only job they see before them is that of getting re-elected to another six year term.

Luttig, McConnell, JRB, Owen, Alito, or anyone else you want to name, would have been defeated, and probably defeated in committee, in order to save other Senators from having to vote them down on the floor. Of this, I am now convinced. Only two names were considered allowable for Senate confirmation; Miers and Gonzales. When Bush met with Senators, he was reportedly told that these two names were the only ones that stood a chance to be confirmed, but Gonzales would face pointed questions about Abu Gharab, Gitmo, and the administration’s policy on torture. It would have been ugly, but he would have been confirmed against the added damage done by dejected a dejected conservative base, and liberal attacks on the President’s agenda. There would have also had to be a new search for an Attorney General, which would have been just as ugly.

Had Bush put up selections that would have been defeated, the chorus of ‘Lame Duck’ chanting coming out of Washington would have drowned out the President’s agenda. A defeat in the Senate would have also signaled to Congress that they were on their own, and no longer had to back up, support, or even listen to President Bush. They would have been free to play the political-calculation game that the Democrats have been playing for 6 years; avoiding tough votes that would be used against them in a future campaign.

So, what’s the bottom line?

The bottom line is that Bush did his best to give us what we want, in a way that will not hurt the prospects of the Conservative agenda. The primary thing that must be considered, is that the Congress can NEVER be put back in Democrat hands, for that would destroy all progress made up to now. Our day will come, but this aint it. If we had a Republican Senate made up of real patriots without the odd liberal in Republican clothing, things would be a lot better.

In Miers, Bush has clearly taken what he can get, and our best hope now is for another vacancy on the court before this administration’s term is up. The current makeup of the Congress will just not allow our agenda to be passed at this time without major sacrifices and pragmatic thinking to overcome the inherit weakness of having traitors in our midst.

It appears to me that Harriet Miers is the best CONFIRMABLE candidate for the Supreme Court at this time. This fact is not the fault of the President. Indeed it is OUR fault. It is us who have supported less than the best candidates for the Senate. We are responsible for Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist and other persons of questionable courage. We should not be blaming Bush for our own votes. We selected the people that the President must rely upon to move his agenda forward. If they are losers, then he loses too.

Though they literally suck, we are stuck with these people because we must keep the majority to keep our agenda alive. There have been worse moments for us, but none would be worse than than the day we lose the Senate our House majorities. I now believe that although Bush disapointed many of us, that he did the very best he could do without destroying our momentum.

Yes, like Rush Limbaugh said, it was a choice made from weakness.

But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush’s weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen. Had they been strong, Bush could have selected anyone we wanted.

Because of what I now know about how and why Harriet Miers was selected, I withdraw my earlier statements against her, my statements suggesting anything less than my strong support of the President, and finally, my self imposed exile from Free Republic.

Pukin Dog is back, so deal with it.


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To: MojoWire
THe Bush Administration could not find one candidate, NOT ONE JUDGE or law professor or whatever, in the entire country who has an acceptable non-legislative-from-the-bench conservative type of record who would agree to go through the life-destroying Senate confirmation process.

If you had a great job, would you risk it all with such certainty for disaster?

221 posted on 10/09/2005 4:21:49 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Pukin Dog

It takes a big man to admit his mistakes. For that I applaude you.

You have made the same points many of us were making a week ago.


222 posted on 10/09/2005 4:22:02 PM PDT by Iowa Granny (I am not the sharpest pin in the cushion but I can draw blood.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Welcome home Pukin Dog - and thanks for taking the time to talk some sense into the disenchanted.


223 posted on 10/09/2005 4:22:42 PM PDT by LADY J
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To: Pukin Dog; All
Good for you, PD - welcome back to the land of those living in reality. I have been posting on a few threads how Bush's hands were tied. Too many of our Republican Senators are whimps. Everyone that is up for re-election in 2006 is walking on egg shells.

Our President, knowing full well how important this nomination is and that he's got this bunch to deal with, did the best thing he could have done...nominate someone he KNOWS will do the job correctly.

These Senators and those that complain should take a nice long hard look in the mirror and then ask themselves the question, "Why did the President choose Harriet Miers?" IT'S THEIR OWN DARN FAULT!

Sorry if this looks mean to Ms. Miers, it's not meant to. I'm sure you are a fine woman, quite capable of doing this very important job. Why? BECAUSE I TRUST OUR PRESIDENT...I always have.

224 posted on 10/09/2005 4:22:59 PM PDT by NordP (Must See TV - Mark Levin's Supreme Court Nomination Hearings ----- I WISH!)
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To: Guenevere
I am looking forward to the transcript. And NOT just because it might vindicate what I wrote. I would really like to know what he said so that I can compare it to what I was told.
225 posted on 10/09/2005 4:23:02 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: ronnied
with this info you have, is there any mention how roberts reaction or the rest of the supremes for that matter feel about miers nomination?

I don't have his source, but I would find it impossible to believe that anyone in the Supreme Court is saying anything where anyone else could possibly hear, much less pass on the information. That isn't how they operate.

That being said, I'm sure everyone would prefer to see folks nominated who at the very least interned with one of the justices. Scalia has been there a number of years, one would assume he has a list of former interns he would feel proud to serve with. Same with Thomas.
226 posted on 10/09/2005 4:23:18 PM PDT by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Ten four good buddy. You made a wise decision.


227 posted on 10/09/2005 4:23:36 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Pukin Dog
... it was a choice made from weakness.

But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush's weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen.

Plenty of weakness to spread around. I am chapped by what seems to be ratification of the 60 vote hurdle in the Senate -- without so much as a peep.

Just a reminder. The Senate is sitting on qualified Circuit Court nominations - Myers and Boyle. Has the GOP invoked -THEM- as a matter of principle?

No. It hasn't.

Weaklings.

228 posted on 10/09/2005 4:23:42 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Pukin Dog
No.....It was on Chris Wallace panel discussion with Mara Liaason, Juan Williams, Brit Hume and Bill Kristol.

Bill was continuing his 'disgust' with the Harriet Miars nomination...

... and Brit informed him that one of the reasons Miars got the nod is that he specifically knows ..(he named a woman, but you will have to go to transcript to get the name)...has too much history of activisim..

...activism was the word he used...

..and this woman is someone Kristol specifically wanted....

..and Hume inferred/suggested ...to my understanding...that others had turned down the 'honor' for the same reason/

229 posted on 10/09/2005 4:24:07 PM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Specter said he would send all nominees to the floor. So that pukin dog won't hunt. And of the 7-8 others, only a couple were more likely to vote against Roe than Miers. She thinks abortion is a grave sin, for biblically based reasons. It is the one issue she really seems to care about, consistently. If that isn't hard wiring, I don't know what is.


230 posted on 10/09/2005 4:25:42 PM PDT by Torie
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To: RegulatorCountry

I think you are spot on.


231 posted on 10/09/2005 4:25:43 PM PDT by flashbunny (Sorry, but I'm allergic to KoolAid.)
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To: Washi
To recap: It's our fault that the president broke his campaign promise to us, his base.

MEIRS -- NO CONFIDENCE

232 posted on 10/09/2005 4:25:45 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: clee1
The reasons you listed are the reasons I'll not be voting for no-b@lls republicans any more.

Guess that just means Repub women....right?? [grin!]

233 posted on 10/09/2005 4:26:04 PM PDT by Colonial Warrior ("I've entered the snapdragon part of my life....Part of me has snapped...the rest is draggin'.")
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To: Pukin Dog

I'm aware of the scum in the Congress.

I'm also aware at a certain point bullies need to be confronted.

Giving you the assumption for sake of argument this is true,

Taking this abuse on their behalf prevents them from being held accountable to their constituents for their actions. We have enough states that want a strong strict Constructionist Judge on the Court that will destroy any Senator that stands in their way, if given the option to do so.

Bring the roaches into the light and squash them once and for all.

What are they going to do? Withdraw their support from the WOT? They just did that by protecting the right of terrorists, didn't they? That is what they are incrementally inching toward. They are moving towards cutting and running, and every day their non defense of this President leaves him weaker. When they do call for the cut and run, he'll be unable to stop it.

I am thinking ahead here, but honestly, the future isn't good if someone doesn't expose these cretins to their constituents and give them an alternative to vote for.

IMO, you stand in their face, give the bullies the best candidate, and provide the American people evidence of their intentions. A strong offensive attack, similiar to what Delay is in process of doing.

But, I'll say this. At the current point, in '06, the only person I will assure a vote for is my House representative. I hate the Senate, and I won't be blackmailed into replicating a Faux Republican Majority. And I damn well guarentee I'll be donating to whomever I have to defeat people like Chafee and DeWine in '06. Lindsey in '08.


234 posted on 10/09/2005 4:26:30 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: Pukin Dog

haha....well, at least you came around. For that, I'll apologize for being such a bitch to you the other night. Takes a good dog to crawl back up on the couch after chewing a hole in it.


235 posted on 10/09/2005 4:26:53 PM PDT by Annie5622
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To: zendari
She would have been the nominee otherwise IMO.

I think she would have been.

But if you want some evidence of the fact that the dim strategy was to smear the candidates personally, on Tuesday just the day after Miers was nominated some nasty little radio rumor monger began to plant the idea that she was gay.

That seems to be the line of attack now. During the hearings for John Roberts, in one of the most disgusting displays I have ever seen, it was insinuated that Jack his four year old son was gay.

Unless we can protect the families we are going to have the people we want saying thanks but no thanks.

236 posted on 10/09/2005 4:27:18 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Warning: Not a Romantic or hero worshiper. Attempts to tug at my heartstrings annoy me... and I bite)
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To: Torie
I know what Specter said, and he LIED. He would have given one of those "I cant in good conscience...." speeches, and gone against Bush. That is what I was told. You don't have to believe it, but I do.
237 posted on 10/09/2005 4:27:36 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Owen

Ya, with his students as a law professor, when 45 years old. Infra dig, any way you cut it.


238 posted on 10/09/2005 4:27:46 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Pukin Dog

Great post as usual Pukin Dog. Welcome back!


239 posted on 10/09/2005 4:28:00 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (The stars at night, are big and bright, deep in the heart of Texas!)
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To: Annie5622
Yeah, you were mean. (sniff)
240 posted on 10/09/2005 4:28:22 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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