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Harriet Miers the pick AP

Posted on 10/03/2005 4:06:25 AM PDT by johnmecainrino

Harriet Miers


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; evangelical; harrietmiers; prolife; putin; rino; scotus; winwin
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To: All

The simple fact of the matter is that Bush turned out a record number of folks to vote for him in 2004 at least partially on his promise to restore sanity to the judiciary.

The simple fact of the matter is that the GOP controls the House and the Senate, based at least partially on the GOP's stance as the party in favor of restoring sanity to the judiciary.

The simple fact of the matter is that the GOP can win the bloodiest of Senate confirmation fights, even defeat a filibuster, if it would find its stones, cowboy up, and pull the trigger on the "constitutional option".

The simple fact of the matter is that Bush is at a low ebb both within his base and nationally because (and I recognize that this isn't entirely his fault) he has not been perceieved as having demonstrated strong leadership.

In spite of these facts, Bush has decided to look as though he is punting on this critically important SCOTUS pick, further depressing his base and looking weak to his enemies.

I see all the usual suspects are out in force on both sides of the "is she conservative or not" debate. But the simple fact of the matter is BOTH sides are having to speculate and employ educated gueswork in support of their positions. Conservatives should NOT have to guessing about whether the President's nominee is an originalist or not. We control the Senate. Bush should have been willing to have this debate and confirm a known quantity.

We are all being asked to simply take it on faith that Mier's is an originalist based on a handful of scripted remarks and a resume that happens to include a few "conservative" entries (in addition to gigs with the Lottery Commission). That's NOT good enough and the President should have known that.

He's also open to the cronyism charge on this, whether we like it or think its fair or not.

This was just a lame decision from both a political perspective and from a judicial perspective. What a shame.

The only plus I see is that there is plenty of room for a Republican presidential nomination candidate to run well to the right of Bush and reinvigorate the base, but that's years away.


1,081 posted on 10/03/2005 6:54:09 AM PDT by borkrules
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To: ohioWfan

Which makes us no better than DU. Sad, isn't it?


1,082 posted on 10/03/2005 6:54:20 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: NittanyLion
This is a diversity pick.

Not based on qualifications but based on what this country is not about.

Socialism failed because the best qualified did not necessarily advance to the top of the leadership heap.
1,083 posted on 10/03/2005 6:54:21 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: johnb838

"I don't think it will go back to the rats"

I guarantee that the church will stay home in 2006, and Hillary will win the POTUS in 2008.

The church is the GOP base, and Bush just stuck it to us.

I won't be voting GOP anymore.


1,084 posted on 10/03/2005 6:54:25 AM PDT by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: Cboldt
I think the position she advocated was agnostic - she wanted the entirety of the ABA membership to vote on the position, rather than have the ABA leadership develop a position without the support of a membership vote.

Another little tidbit. Thanks. We need more FACTS here. We don't need someone who is moderately pro-life, or doesn't care much one way or the other. We need someone who is strongly pro-life. I'm sorry, but that one issue will determine my view of Harriet Miers, and as I have said before, will determine whether or not the millions of pro-life conservatives who turned out for Bush in 2002 and 2004 turn out again in 2006. Anything less than a staunch social conservative just won't cut the mustard.

1,085 posted on 10/03/2005 6:54:45 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Preachin'; All

Harriet Miers is a 60 Year old unmarried, unpretty woman from Texas. What's the effing difference between her and Molly Ivins?


1,086 posted on 10/03/2005 6:54:54 AM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Cboldt

But it tells me she's not a hard-left pro-abort or she wouldn't have fought it.


1,087 posted on 10/03/2005 6:54:55 AM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (Is the Republican attack machine an assault weapon?)
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To: Petronski
Perhaps people like me are pissed BECAUSE there's barely a fact.

Well said.

This crap isn't cute; it's a slap in the face of the conservatives who have worked for years to get to this point.

1,088 posted on 10/03/2005 6:55:09 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts

Some of us noted that you were off the reservation long ago. What's changed?


1,089 posted on 10/03/2005 6:55:24 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: ohioWfan
Can we please wait to find out the FACTS before jumping off the deep end here??

Wait for facts? And ruin the fun everyone's having with hysteria and speculation?

1,090 posted on 10/03/2005 6:55:28 AM PDT by FixedandDilated
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To: bulldog905
I am holding my horses... but what can one really expect from a guy was considering nominating Gonzales?... Boy, I hope for the best, but I am bracing for deep disappointment.

This is big!... more than I tought so, at least for me personally. I was already angry about his inaction in dealing with the border and now a semi-lib judge?... That would be treason in my heart... I hope he and Rove know what they are doing!... I will wait though...

1,091 posted on 10/03/2005 6:55:29 AM PDT by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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To: Cicero
I've done some googling around, and I can't find anything at all on Harriet Miers beyond what is posted on this thread. Is she pro-life? Who knows?

My bigger concern is her dedication to the Constitutional principle of judicial restraint.

Interesting trying to find her link to "Exodus" something or another. This link recites "EXODUS Ministry, Inc. - Former Member, Board," but a search on the exact phrase "EXODUS Ministry, Inc." has only three hits, one of which is to FindLaw's supposed CV of Ms. Miers.

1,092 posted on 10/03/2005 6:55:40 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: rintense

Were you disappointed with President Bush's lower court nominees, many of whom were fought and delayed for years by Dems because they considered them to be too conservative? Harriet Miers vetted and recommended those excellent nominees to the president. Might that give us an idea of her views?

She pushed the American Bar Assoc. to drop its pro-choice position, might that also be indicative?


1,093 posted on 10/03/2005 6:55:45 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: dogbyte12

Are we not discussing the new nominee? This is not a hijack. Did you catch my eminent domain concerns? Probably not. Harriet Miers might not be the conservative many conservatives were hoping for. Time will tell.


1,094 posted on 10/03/2005 6:55:49 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Daily Newsfeeds & Weekly Update)
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To: Howlin; Blogger
Oh Howlin, don't mess these folks up with the facts.

They have to be mad, and they might go kick the dog or something if they find out the truth here....

1,095 posted on 10/03/2005 6:55:49 AM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: ohioWfan
Everyone against this nomination is doing so based on what "appears to be" and not on what IS. Can we please wait to find out the FACTS before jumping off the deep end here??

Your restraint is admirable, but I think questioning the pick is appropriate. By the time we have the facts, Miers will most likely be on the court. After all, this is a political forum, and this is by far the largest issue of the day. Speculation is to be expected - that's why we're here, after all.

1,096 posted on 10/03/2005 6:55:50 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Artemis Webb

"Last time I checked you don't speak for the GOP."

No. But I am a Christian and they quit speaking up for me.

Payback will be hell for the GOP.


1,097 posted on 10/03/2005 6:56:06 AM PDT by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: RockinRight
Isn't Dee Snider actually a registered Republican? I heard that somewhere.

Put him on the court!


No, run him for Congress!
I understand Katherine Harris' seat will be open...
Boo! I know, I know, just stop throwing the tomatoes.
1,098 posted on 10/03/2005 6:56:08 AM PDT by counterpunch
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To: faithincowboys

Harriet Miers is a 60 Year old unmarried, unpretty woman from Texas. What's the effing difference between her and Molly Ivins?


You are a joker, right? Harriet Miers is no MollyI.
Unbelievable the snippy remarks on here today.


1,099 posted on 10/03/2005 6:56:16 AM PDT by TTRR
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To: borkrules

"The only plus I see is that there is plenty of room for a Republican presidential nomination candidate to run well to the right of Bush and reinvigorate the base, but that's years away."

Very astute. I hadn't thought of that.


1,100 posted on 10/03/2005 6:56:17 AM PDT by TheRobb7 (The American Spirit does not require a federal subsidy.)
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