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As Disappointed As You Might Be With The GOP, What Is The Alternative?

Posted on 09/26/2005 5:34:31 PM PDT by mwfsu84

My major complaints with the GOP are Bush's spending, and the stonewalling RINOs in Congress. And yet, what is the alternative? To vote Democrat? Or to not vote at all - which is just as helpful to Dems.

Every time I think how disappointed I am with Bush, I try to remember how much worse it could be with a legitmate Bush-hater.

The Democrats won't cut spending. They'll raise taxes. We'll see national health care. A Democratic President won't nominate moderate SCOTUS justices - unless you consider Ruth Bader Ginsberg a moderate. We'll cow tow to the UN, probably pull out of Iraq, establish relations with Cuba and Hugo Chavez. They'll be no legitimate challenge to the ban on partial birth abortion. This fall, an upcoming SCOTUS case will be whether a minor has a right to have an abortion without parental consent. If a 15 year old child wins that 'right', do you honestly expect ANY leader from the party of Planned Parenthood to challenge it?

You think gas prices are high now? Wait until you see prices caps imposed, Jimmy Carter-style, so you'll have higher prices and longer lines. We'll have a president that preaches to us the value of sacrifice, which as we all know, worked so well during the Carter years.

As disgusted as we are with George W. Bush, we can't give up on the Republican Party.


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KEYWORDS: gop; govwatch; rinowatch; taxandspendrinos
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To: mwfsu84

I have no intention of giving up on the party, nor am I upset with the President. Now some of our congress members, yes, but not President Bush.


81 posted on 09/26/2005 6:50:21 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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To: mwfsu84

The alternative is the Monarchist Party!


82 posted on 09/26/2005 6:51:19 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: mwfsu84

Our president has good character as a solid foundation. He says that he reads the Bible every day and prays every day. Does anyone doubt that? If not, then we know he is a President better in character than any other in recent history. If the foundation is this strong, then I will stick with him and pray for him.


83 posted on 09/26/2005 6:52:55 PM PDT by Mark (Proven scientific experiment: The NY Times flushes easily down the standard toilet.)
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To: mwfsu84

Your question could be posed as.."Which do you prefer, to be shot or hung"? Either scenario, you lose. Whether you vote or not is not relevant. There are millions that do not vote in every election, with untold millions that have never voted, therefore, the whining about not voting elects a democrat is bogus.


84 posted on 09/26/2005 6:53:45 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: coconutt2000

Oh, and Brown was competent at his job because of his years representing owners and judges of Arabian horses? I've had it with cronyism in the GOP. Okay. Sure. They all do it. But let's hand out jobs that aren't quite so crucial in the future. Bernie Kerik would've been a lot better as head of the DHS to oversee the inexperienced Brown.


85 posted on 09/26/2005 6:56:43 PM PDT by StarSpangled
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To: mwfsu84

Schemes such as recruiting an FBI porn squad while people are streaming over an unsecured border are just plain wrong.


86 posted on 09/26/2005 6:59:18 PM PDT by sono
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To: cynicom

I think you should consider whether Bush has not done a lot considering the razor-thin margins of majority he has in both houses of Congress. If you want a more conservative government, elect more conservatives, but don't expect the president to be a dictator and do for you what you have not done for yourselves.


87 posted on 09/26/2005 7:03:50 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: StarSpangled

Brown was competent because he did the job well. He performed far better than Clinton's appointees to the same position. Even with the problems caused by local leadership incompetency in New Orleans and Louisiana, Brown managed to have the Federal response on the ground quickly and in force.

I've watched FEMA in action. I've lived through a devastating hurricane. Brown's management of FEMA was definitely an improvement.

Was he the absolute best? Probably not, but he was better than most who have held that post, and it wasn't until Katrina exposed the need for a more dynamic leader for FEMA, so that the response could be adjusted on the fly depending on the preparedness levels of the local officials.... Brown was more than adequate, and more than competent.


88 posted on 09/26/2005 7:08:50 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: ClaireSolt

I have been listening to that song for far too long. No more votes.


89 posted on 09/26/2005 7:11:44 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: LongElegantLegs
We Suck Less". *Snicker*

LOL. Similar to one I heard a couple of years ago.
The Democrats want to floor the gas pedal, shift the bus into overdrive, and steer us over the cliff. Republicans will only use third gear.

90 posted on 09/26/2005 7:13:00 PM PDT by labette (Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.)
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To: xrp
"The Republicans should change their motto to 'The Republican Party, We Suck Less'."

Lol...

91 posted on 09/26/2005 7:14:09 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Conservative til I die
Vote for the best candidate, period

And then fall prey to bait and switch. Even if the crat is genuinely to the right of Tancredo, when they vote to organize the house, he votes for Pelosi, and you still get liberal policies.

You need to look at the big picture. You can't vote for crats until the present leadership is gone.

Imagine a government with the likes of Pelosi, Conyers, Waxman, Franks, De'lauro, Nadler and Wexler running things. It doesn't matter how conservative the crat appears, the leadership sets the agenda. And that leadership is hard core socialist.

92 posted on 09/26/2005 7:16:35 PM PDT by metalurgist (Death to the democrats! They're almost the same as communists, they just move a little slower.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie; rdb3

see number 48. RDB3 speaks truth.


93 posted on 09/26/2005 7:16:59 PM PDT by Chieftain (Cindy Sheehan is a shameful example of an American mother!)
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To: coconutt2000; Recovering Ex-hippie

You make TONS of sense!


94 posted on 09/26/2005 7:19:49 PM PDT by Chieftain (Cindy Sheehan is a shameful example of an American mother!)
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To: chet_in_ny

"I hate liberal thought more than I love the Republican party."

I'm with you. I oppose neoMarxist/leftist/pseudo-liberal ideology, idologues and their devious tactics. The Republican Party symbol The Elephant should change to that of a Mute Eunoch. I wonder if most of the Repubs are blackmailed by the Clintonistas... After reading a historical bio of Florence (Mrs. Warren) Harding, I am left with the impression that the FBI was a blackmailing agency.


95 posted on 09/26/2005 7:23:28 PM PDT by purpleland (Vigilance and Valour!)
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To: mdittmar
It may not be a wasted vote, but is it the best use of your vote in the long term? Is it more reasonable to believe that a 3rd party can be made into a viable major party or that the current lesser-of-two-evils major party can be reformed? I believe the latter is more reasonable. The Constitution Party may give you short term satisfaction, but I believe you will find yourself disappointed in the longterm.

You still have plenty of allies left in the GOP and we can certainly use your help.
96 posted on 09/26/2005 7:25:04 PM PDT by Fatalist (60 in 06)
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To: Revolting cat!
The alternative is the Monarchist Party!

True monarchists don't vote :)

97 posted on 09/26/2005 7:25:54 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Go Mike Pence, Operation Offset, and the Cleveland Indians)
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To: metalurgist

I never mentioned the word "Democrat". The best candidate could be from any number of parties or no party at all.


98 posted on 09/26/2005 7:28:52 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Acts 2:38
The FFs abhorred the parliamentary system and that's why we don't have one. And I doubt we ever shall have one.
99 posted on 09/26/2005 7:29:13 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: coconutt2000
BRAVO !
100 posted on 09/26/2005 7:30:34 PM PDT by nopardons
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