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As Disappointed As You Might Be With The GOP, What Is The Alternative?

Posted on 09/26/2005 5:34:31 PM PDT by mwfsu84

My major complaints with the GOP are Bush's spending, and the stonewalling RINOs in Congress. And yet, what is the alternative? To vote Democrat? Or to not vote at all - which is just as helpful to Dems.

Every time I think how disappointed I am with Bush, I try to remember how much worse it could be with a legitmate Bush-hater.

The Democrats won't cut spending. They'll raise taxes. We'll see national health care. A Democratic President won't nominate moderate SCOTUS justices - unless you consider Ruth Bader Ginsberg a moderate. We'll cow tow to the UN, probably pull out of Iraq, establish relations with Cuba and Hugo Chavez. They'll be no legitimate challenge to the ban on partial birth abortion. This fall, an upcoming SCOTUS case will be whether a minor has a right to have an abortion without parental consent. If a 15 year old child wins that 'right', do you honestly expect ANY leader from the party of Planned Parenthood to challenge it?

You think gas prices are high now? Wait until you see prices caps imposed, Jimmy Carter-style, so you'll have higher prices and longer lines. We'll have a president that preaches to us the value of sacrifice, which as we all know, worked so well during the Carter years.

As disgusted as we are with George W. Bush, we can't give up on the Republican Party.


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1 posted on 09/26/2005 5:34:34 PM PDT by mwfsu84
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It's a good point, but there are cases where conservatives can pick a third-party candidate if that candidate has a chance in the general election.

Jim Gilchrest, who's running for Congress in a California special election, is a good example.


2 posted on 09/26/2005 5:36:54 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Jeanine Pirro for Senate, Hillary Clinton for Weight Watchers Spokeswoman)
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To: mwfsu84
we can't give up on the Republican Party

That's the gag isn't it? Republicans know that they just have to be a little better [conservative] than Democrats and they LOCK UP the vote of the conservatives.

The Republicans should change their motto to "The Republican Party, We Suck Less".

Because they do really suck.

3 posted on 09/26/2005 5:37:10 PM PDT by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties FLAWLESSLY, zero mistakes)
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To: mwfsu84
"As disgusted as we are with George W. Bush, we can't give up on the Republican Party."

Agree but we have to try to be heard by the party. The beast must be stopped.

4 posted on 09/26/2005 5:38:28 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: mwfsu84

I hate liberal thought more than I love the Republican party.


5 posted on 09/26/2005 5:39:34 PM PDT by chet_in_ny
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Involvement is the key. Hold your representatives accountable. Let them know they have to please you and the other constituents, not the press or the Inside-the-Beltway crowd.


6 posted on 09/26/2005 5:39:59 PM PDT by edpc
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The Republicans should change their motto to "The Republican Party, We Suck Less".

*Snicker*

7 posted on 09/26/2005 5:41:05 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Fines for excess bleeding.)
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To: mwfsu84

My major complaint is that Bush won't fight back or take credit when credit is due.


8 posted on 09/26/2005 5:41:16 PM PDT by Perdogg
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The Whigs, after ail the where be replaced by the Republicans, have to start someplace.
9 posted on 09/26/2005 5:41:52 PM PDT by dts32041 ( Robin Hood, stealing from the government and giving back to tax payer. Where is he today?)
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If there's not a good candidate, then I just don't vote. I consider it a "none of the above" vote.

Speaking of which, there really is a "none of the above" vote in some countries. If a certain percentage of the population votes that way, then the candidates are given the heave-ho and the election starts all over again.

Sounds a little cumbersome, but better than not voting, I think.

10 posted on 09/26/2005 5:42:28 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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Or veto


11 posted on 09/26/2005 5:42:29 PM PDT by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties FLAWLESSLY, zero mistakes)
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To: mwfsu84

Parliamentary system.


12 posted on 09/26/2005 5:42:38 PM PDT by Sometimes A River (Will the next President inherit George W. Bush's hurricane making machine?)
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ABLE DANGER!!!!


13 posted on 09/26/2005 5:42:53 PM PDT by VastRWCon
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To: mwfsu84

"What Is The Alternative?"

A party of Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, and other small government conservatives. I see from the pork vs hurricane relief conversation that there is a voter constituency for what the Republicans used to be.


14 posted on 09/26/2005 5:43:12 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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If all I can do is vote for slow creeping socialism or voting to have it installed all at once, then what are my choices?
15 posted on 09/26/2005 5:43:39 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (DU, more toxic than New Orleans water.)
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Pres. Bush also has an MBA and may know more about what he's doing than we do. Unlike Pres. Clinton - Bush is not a poll driven politician. He is a meticulous planner and usually makes excellent personnel choices when it comes to selecting people who will be loyal to him and carry out his policy.

We also have to understand that President Bush is not an ultra conservative. The President believes in conservative methodology, which emphasizes accountability. He is not a micro manager, so sometimes his personnel choices might fail to live up to his expectations, but this rarely happens.

The President is also not ego driven, which means that he is trying to pave the way for the next Republican candidate for the Presidency. We need to control the Oval Office if we're to achieve the long term goals of reducing the size of government. The President shares this goal, but his plans put the implementation far into the future. The first steps to arriving at that goal are not to upset the status quo, but to massage it and move it in the right direction by way of reforms.

Instant small government would backfire on Republicans and cost us control of Congress and the Presidency. We have to remain in the game by playing the system that has been handed down to us. Anything more would crazy when we're faced constantly with a hostile press.


16 posted on 09/26/2005 5:43:41 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: mwfsu84

Prepare, lock and load.


17 posted on 09/26/2005 5:44:04 PM PDT by sarasmom (What is the legal daily bag limit for RINOs in the USA?)
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To: mwfsu84

The president does not pass laws, congress does. Blaming Bush is unproductive. The answer you are looking for is electing house conservatives such as Tancredo or Pence or others who will hold the line on spending bills. And, senators who will support conservatives. We can fault Bush for not pushing more but he's not the problem.


18 posted on 09/26/2005 5:44:12 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: xrp
The Republicans should change their motto to "The Republican Party, We Suck Less". Because they do really suck.

INDEED! I'm sick of it, esp. after just reading the thread about the hate crimes garbage that passed the House last week. Honestly, I'm about at the point of throwing in the towel on this country anymore.

19 posted on 09/26/2005 5:44:40 PM PDT by Marathoner
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Third party principled losers or Hillary...take your pick.


20 posted on 09/26/2005 5:44:48 PM PDT by PRND21
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