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Update: Category 5 Hurricane Rita - Live Thread, Part II
NHC - NOAA ^ | 21 September 2005 | NHC - NOAA

Posted on 09/21/2005 1:36:24 AM PDT by NautiNurse

Category 3 Hurricane Rita became the fifth major hurricane of the 2005 season during the night. Hurricane Rita threaded the needle through the Florida Straits and moved into the Gulf of Mexico. Storm damage in the Florida Keys and South Florida Peninsula was light, with scattered power outages, scattered tornados, and mild to moderate flooding.

Mandatory evacuations are in effect for Galveston County TX and New Orleans. Additional evacuation orders in the Greater Houston Metropolitan Area are anticipated throughout the day.

Crude oil prices reacted as oil producers shut down and evacuated workers from platforms in the Gulf of Mexico.

The following links are self-updating:

Public Advisory Currently published every 3 hours 5A, 8A, 11A, 2P, etc. ET
NHC Discussion Published every six hours 6A, 11A, 6P, 11P
Three Day Forecast Track
Five Day Forecast Track

Rita Forecast Track Archive
Forecast Models
Buoy Data Eastern Gulf of Mexico
Buoy Data Western Gulf of Mexico

Current Weather Warnings and Watches for Texas

Images:

Storm Floater IR Loop
GOM WV Loop
GOM IR Still Image
Visible Storm Floater Still (only visible during daylight hours)
Color Enhanced Atlantic Loop
Key West Long Range Radar Still Image

Streaming Video: (coverage may be intermittent)

KHOU-TV/DT Houston: mms://beloint.wm.llnwd.net/beloint_khou
WWLTV NOLA

Additional Resources:

Coastal TX Evacuation Maps
KHOU Houston
KTRK ABC News Houston
Hurricane City
Wxnation Houston

Category Wind Speed Barometric Pressure Storm Surge Damage Potential
Tropical
Depression
< 39 mph
< 34 kts
    Minimal
Tropical
Storm
39 - 73 mph
34 - 63 kts
    Minimal
Hurricane 1
(Weak)
74 - 95 mph
64 - 82 kts
28.94" or more
980.02 mb or more
4.0' - 5.0'
1.2 m - 1.5 m
Minimal damage to vegetation
Hurricane 2
(Moderate)
96 - 110 mph
83 - 95 kts
28.50" - 28.93"
965.12 mb - 979.68 mb
6.0' - 8.0'
1.8 m - 2.4 m
Moderate damage to houses
Hurricane 3
(Strong)
111 - 130 mph
96 - 112 kts
27.91" - 28.49"
945.14 mb - 964.78 mb
9.0' - 12.0'
2.7 m - 3.7 m
Extensive damage to small buildings
Hurricane 4
(Very strong)
131 - 155 mph
113 - 135 kts
27.17" - 27.90"
920.08 mb - 944.80 mb
13.0' - 18.0'
3.9 m - 5.5 m
Extreme structural damage
Hurricane 5
(Devastating)
Greater than 155 mph
Greater than 135 kts
Less than 27.17"
Less than 920.08 mb
Greater than 18.0'
Greater than 5.5m
Catastrophic building failures possible

Previous Threads:
Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm Rita
Tropical Depression 18


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: hurricane; katrina; katrinassister; rita; tropical; twinhurricanes
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To: burzum

That is the earthquake scale....


2,021 posted on 09/21/2005 2:12:24 PM PDT by dakine
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To: No Blue States

Whoops, too late -- probably already exceeded authorized bandwidth


2,022 posted on 09/21/2005 2:12:33 PM PDT by CedarDave ("I can't swing a dead cat without hitting a reporter" -- Lt. Gen. Honoré)
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To: LikeLight
They are saying it's about 15 miles north of the NHC track already, which, all other things being equal at this distance, translates to a 100 mile shift (northeastward) up the coast. It's potentially a big deal.

Almost all storms exhibit a trochoidal (like a sine wave) wobble, sometimes with a quite long period (each wobble lasting 6-12 hours).

One problem with EasternUSWx is it's heavily populated by Northeastern Winter Snow weenies with fairly limited knowledge of the tropics.

That said, the beginnings of turns are indistinguishable from wobbles.

2,023 posted on 09/21/2005 2:12:41 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: ken5050
Two questions, from watching the tube for the last hour..if I may.. They show that big pic of the pier in Galveston...witht the structure at the end. I assume that is going to disappear, right?

2. Did I hear the mayor say she and a skeleton staff were staying...ion the top floor of some building that is 37 feet above sea level..but they are expecting a 30ft+ storm surge? Does that make any sense?

1. The building at the end of the pier is probably the Balinese Room, famed gambling hall of the 1940s and 50s - many big names used to perform there (eg Frank Sinatra). As a side note, the pier out to the Balinese Room is so long because they would post someone as a lookout on land, and as soon as policemen started down the pier to investigate rowdiness, a signal was given and the gambling tables, one-armed bandits, etc. were hidden and the place became a nice, presentable dance hall within seconds (http://www.texasexplorer.net/BalineseRoom.htm).

2. If I understood correctly, the city officials will be staying at the San Luis Resort on Seawall Blvd (http://www.sanluisresort.com/). I can't imagine that it would be safe, with the entire front being glass.

We lived in Galveston in 2003-2004. It's really a quirky little island with it's own personality. We love that place.

2,024 posted on 09/21/2005 2:12:52 PM PDT by ArmyBratsMom (Proud wife of a true American hero.)
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To: steveegg

The 908 mb pressure was from a dropsonde in the eye. The 914 mb pressure was extrapolated at a later time, which I guess is why NHC is using that number in their advisory.


2,025 posted on 09/21/2005 2:12:57 PM PDT by WxMan2000
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To: Abigail Adams

Johnson Space Center is already closed. Heard they transferred control of the International Space Center to the Russians.


2,026 posted on 09/21/2005 2:13:03 PM PDT by Stormy_MS1
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To: Prolifeconservative; ContemptofCourt
If it's 4 minutes North and 11 minutes West.....then why is the last advisory this....."Rita is moving toward the west near 13 mph and this motion is expected to continue during the next 24 hours." Is it going WNW or NW or W......? There is so much information out there I sometimes don't know what is actually happening at the moment. Clue me in!

ComtemptofCourt has that answer in #1989 - "NHC uses a 6 hr mean motion. It is on or damn near the NHC forecasted track"

That one-hour shift toward the WNW may well be more of a wobble than anything else.

2,027 posted on 09/21/2005 2:13:07 PM PDT by steveegg ($3.00 a gallon is the price you pay for ANWR! Start drilling or stop whining! - HT Falcon4.0)
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To: IamConservative

Very last satellite image looks a little more westward again, so maybe the northward movement was just a jog after all - but still bears close watching.


2,028 posted on 09/21/2005 2:13:33 PM PDT by LikeLight
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To: Howlin
"Pity, ain't it? :-)"

Her rants'll just have to get longer and longer as her list grows. I'm a little confused though : I thought the left was outraged with President Bush for not sending troops in before Blanco gave the OK because it would violate posse comatatis, but now they're outraged that NO is occupied by troops they wanted there and say should have been there sooner?

2,029 posted on 09/21/2005 2:14:25 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them All and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: Abigail Adams
Does anyone know what NASA facilities might be in the path of the hurricane? Just curious.

The brain of NASA is at the Johnson Space Center. And it's on the deadly northeast quadrant near Clear Lake.

2,030 posted on 09/21/2005 2:14:28 PM PDT by sinkspur (Just west of DFW Airport. We can take in four or five and two dogs.)
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To: Strategerist

Excellent info there......THANKS!


2,031 posted on 09/21/2005 2:15:09 PM PDT by Prolifeconservative (If there is another terrorist attack, the womb is a very unsafe place to hide.)
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To: NautiNurse

The traffic jam lanes are people evacuating from the coast. It looks like Galveston area from memory. The thin line of vehicles are those racing out to the coast to secure things before bugging out.


2,032 posted on 09/21/2005 2:15:42 PM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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To: raygun

Well, from the vortex report you linked to, the 110 kts surface winds are something on the order of .8 of the 153 flight level winds, according to my rudimentary math skills.

I note that, during Andrew, one of the few surface installations to provide actual wind measurements after the opening moments of the strike, the anemometer on Fowey Rocks light, which is a fixed lighthouse, 133 feet tall, 4-5 miles offshore on the reef and edge of the Gulf Stream, stopped transmitting windspeed after apparently having its equipment damaged by wind alone (possibly augmented by flying spray?). But I definitely agree that most of the land based anemometers probably get hit by flying debris.

The 80 kt max at Dry Tortugas sounds right to me, according to what I'v heard of damage in the Keys.

I understand that the extreme winds exist in the eyewall, and rapidly diminish outward from there, keeping in mind of course that they are still very dangerous for many miles out. But eminently more survivable if one takes precautions. Such as occupying a strong structure on high ground. I feel fairly good about my chances if I can just avoid being in that eyewall. I know there are weird pockets and things moving around, though.

Since you've been taking something of a devil's advocate position on Katrina, I'm curious as to your interest in hurricanes? My own interest comes from years on the water, some of them professional, which require some knowledge of weather; also from having ridden out several hurricanes, including the north eyewall of Andrew in south Dade. And, IMO, an awareness of hurricanes is a prerequisite of living in places like Miami anyway.

However, I am not a scientist or anything close, nor nearly as knowledgable as some of the posters on these threads.


2,033 posted on 09/21/2005 2:15:48 PM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality - Miami)
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A new wind speed forecast:

It looks like they forecast a strong Cat 4 at landfall. As we've seen with this storm, Rita has always been about 10 mph above the blue-line. We shall see. Also the table for wind speed forecast is 'N/A' for 36 hours. Odd.

2,034 posted on 09/21/2005 2:16:20 PM PDT by burzum (Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.-Adm H Rickover)
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To: Strategerist; LikeLight

That site (as well as storm2k) is also populated by high school kids who fancy themselves to be mets (floydbuster is one glaring example). You need to really know the credentials of the posters on those sites before and take what is posted in context.


2,035 posted on 09/21/2005 2:16:33 PM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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To: dakine

that's what I thought, but Bastardi was explaining the same thing yesterday.


2,036 posted on 09/21/2005 2:16:47 PM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: rwfromkansas

I'm putting the deep water kit back on my Jeep tonight, then....


2,037 posted on 09/21/2005 2:17:17 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Howlin

Post 2039 was meant for you, not me.


2,038 posted on 09/21/2005 2:17:36 PM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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To: Prolifeconservative; NautiNurse
"tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 175 miles."

This is what New Orleans fears most!

Indeed, Grand Isle, Louisiana (the eastern-most part of the Tropical Storm Watch) is due south of New Orleans.

2,039 posted on 09/21/2005 2:17:48 PM PDT by steveegg ($3.00 a gallon is the price you pay for ANWR! Start drilling or stop whining! - HT Falcon4.0)
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To: Raycpa
I thought buses w/o AC could not be used?

In any case, where did they find the drivers?

I'm surmising not from the graveyards mary landrieu finds her workers from(paraphrased quote from Sen. landrieu "you can't get them to work on a sunny day").

2,040 posted on 09/21/2005 2:18:34 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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