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Mayor Nagin: 10,000 Counts of Manslaughter
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 10 September 2005 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 09/08/2005 11:35:48 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin said in an obscenity-laced tirade on WWL radio last Thursday that the federal government should have sent “Greyhound buses” to evacuate his city. He said school buses were inadequate because they lack bathrooms.

There was an Evacuation Plan, written in 2000 and updated since. It states that New Orleans should be evacuated at the Mayor’s order. He should declare that “48 hours in advance.” It also states he should use “public buses” including transit and school buses.

One of the duties of any Mayor of New Orleans is to know his obligations under this Plan, based on state and federal law. Plus that, Mayor who can walk and chew gum HAD to be aware that massive hurricanes have previously hit New Orleans, and that another such strike was inevitable, sometime

No, I’m not going to give a cite for that Plan. You’re on the Internet as you read this. You’ll believe that fact better if you find an independent source. Look in the Houston Chronicle, a liberal newspaper. Or, in the Washington Times, a conservative newspaper. Or, dozens of other sources. I’ll wait.

Okay, you’re back. You now know the duties Mayor Nagin had as Hurricane Katrina crossed the Gulf of Mexico, growing in strength and eventually heading for New Orleans.

Also, he knew that New Orleans is built below sea level. If the water ever started coming in through a major breach in the levees or canals, the City was finished. Any Mayor too dumb to know that would have been too dumb to raise his hand and take the oath of office.

What did Mayor Nagin do, faced with these facts? First, he was 24 hours late in ordering the evacuation of New Orleans. Second, he did not order local officials to get the buses rolling from parking lots around the City. Third, he took off for Baton Rouge, to give angry press conferences blaming others after the City drowned.

What was the result of Mayor Nagin’s not following the laws and Plan he was obligated to obey as Mayor?

The buses were flooded in their lots. The closest buses were a mere 1.2 miles from the Superdome, as shown by aerial photographs. And all the way through this creeping disaster, one highway connection from the Superdome to the West Bank of the Mississippi, remained open. It was not until 24 hours AFTER Katrina had passed that the nearest buses to the Superdome were flooded and became useless.

What happened to the citizens of New Orleans from the failure to use the available transportation? Many of the bodies of the dead have not been recovered, but Mayor Nagin has said that he expects “about 10,000 dead.”

Of course, more people will die in the future of diseases acquired from the polluted waters. Some of these will be self-inflicted, people who refuse to recognize the continuing danger and stay in their homes. But some will be people who could and would have gotten out, if given a choice. But they didn’t have that choice because they were poor, and the buses didn’t roll.

What are the criteria for a charge of manslaughter?

Anyone who deliberately or through gross negligence causes the death of another human being can be charged with manslaughter. Normally, someone cannot be charged with manslaughter for the failure to do something. If you are driving down the highway and see a car on fire and people in it, you are not obligated to stop and try to get the people out before the gas tank explodes. I know most of you would do that, but you don't have to.)

But anyone who is a public official has assigned duties in a given situation. He/she can be responsible for failure to act. We are talking about Mayor Ray Nagin, who sought his position with certain duties attached. We are not talking about Ray Nagin, private citizen, who is responsible only for saving his own hide (though he certainly did to that).

In my opinion, Mayor Ray Nagin should be charged with 10,000 counts of manslaughter. Any New Orleans prosecutor who seeks justice in his City should bring the charges now for the known dead, and amend the charges later as the list of dead grows, and grows, and grows, and grows.

Is there an honest prosecutor left in New Orleans?

About the Author: John Armor is a First Amendment attorney and author who lives in the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina. John_Armor@aya.yale.edu


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: annexi; cary; democrats; evacuationplan; greyhoundbuses; hurricanekatrina; katrina; left; liberals; mayornagin; nagin; neworleans; publicbuses; raynagin
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I am mad. I intend to take no prisoners, least of all Mayor Nagin. I think you will agree.

John / Billybob

1 posted on 09/08/2005 11:35:49 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin said in an obscenity-laced tirade on WWL radio last Thursday that the federal government should have sent “Greyhound buses” to evacuate his city. He said school buses were inadequate because they lack bathrooms.

No joke? By all means, I agree! It's much better to let people die rather than suffer the indignity of having to squat in a bush on the side of the road.

3 posted on 09/08/2005 11:37:38 AM PDT by thecabal
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To: Congressman Billybob

Did the Emergency Plan call for the federal government providing Greyhound Buses?


4 posted on 09/08/2005 11:37:44 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Congressman Billybob
New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin said in an obscenity-laced tirade on WWL radio last Thursday that the federal government should have sent “Greyhound buses” to evacuate his city

This just gets better and better.

At least he didn't say the feds should have sent 747's....

5 posted on 09/08/2005 11:38:03 AM PDT by freebilly (Go USF Baseball!)
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Yep..I'de rather be dead than ride in a bus with no bathroom. Hell, slave ships didn't have bathrooms.


6 posted on 09/08/2005 11:39:40 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Click Here For A Message From Mayor Nagin

7 posted on 09/08/2005 11:40:12 AM PDT by SerpentDove ("Where there is no vision, the people perish." - Proverbs 29:18)
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>>>>>He said school buses were inadequate because they lack bathrooms.


I'd of stayed there and taken the brunt of a hurricane over that, sure. It reminds me of the people at The Superdome who refused the MREs because they weren't fine cuisine.
8 posted on 09/08/2005 11:40:28 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("No wonder [Bob Denver's] dead. Bush left him on that island." -NRO)
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To: Congressman Billybob

9 posted on 09/08/2005 11:41:09 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Same too for the governor IMHO. I would think there were some mandatory statutory duties breached by their acts and omissions (including the "starve 'em out of the dome" policy). I share your anger, along with feelings of disgust, horror and lack of understanding how they could do, and not do, what they did....


10 posted on 09/08/2005 11:41:18 AM PDT by eureka! (Hey Lefties: Only 3 and 1/4 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: thecabal

Mayor M. T. Noggin!


11 posted on 09/08/2005 11:41:24 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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"No joke? By all means, I agree! It's much better to let people die rather than suffer the indignity of having to squat in a bush on the side of the road."

Or a rest area, restaurant, gas station, mcdonalds....sheesh, Nagin's a dorkmeister supreme...


12 posted on 09/08/2005 11:42:04 AM PDT by fizziwig
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To: Congressman Billybob

I'd add Blanco and the lt. gov while we're at it.


13 posted on 09/08/2005 11:42:07 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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He said school buses were inadequate because they lack bathrooms.

This is amazing the buses didn't have bathrooms so the Mayor decides it's better for these people to wade through water up to the neck full of somebody else's waste. There must be an element of payback in the Mayor's thinking. I think he probably is saying to NO citizens. Okay folks, whose full of $hit now.

14 posted on 09/08/2005 11:42:38 AM PDT by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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I expect the TOTAL bodycount in LA and MS to be more like 1,000 - 2,000...........which is STILL too high.


15 posted on 09/08/2005 11:42:50 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (I'm an island awash in a sea of stupidity)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Mayor who can walk and chew gum - that is a rather large assumption for this Mayor.


16 posted on 09/08/2005 11:42:57 AM PDT by SF Republican
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JohnBoy BillyBob :-) He said school buses were inadequate because they lack bathrooms.

Does that mean by the time the SuperTomb was without bathrooms it too was inadequate?
Why is it OK for him to send them to a shelter for 5 days without bathrooms but a three hour bus ride without bathrooms is unacceptable?

There is something about "liberal Logic" I can not wrap my brain around.

18 posted on 09/08/2005 11:44:47 AM PDT by msnimje (CNN - Constant Negative Nonsense)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Nagin oughta know. He and Blanco ordered the massacre.


19 posted on 09/08/2005 11:45:40 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Muzzle_em
I expect the TOTAL bodycount in LA and MS to be more like 1,000 - 2,000...........which is STILL too high.

I agree

DNC playbook

BODY COUNT HIGH
DIMS: "BUSH's FAULT!"

BODY COUNT CONSERABLY LOWER
DIMS: "NAGIN is a SAINT!"

20 posted on 09/08/2005 11:45:59 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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