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Murder and Mayhem in New Orlean's Miserable Shelter: Lessons from the Dome
Reuters ^ | September 2, 2005 | Mark Egan

Posted on 09/03/2005 3:44:24 AM PDT by Liberty Ship

Valenti and her husband, two of very few white people in the almost exclusively black refugee camp, said she and other whites were threatened with murder on Thursday.

"They hated us. Four young black men told us the buses were going to come last night and pick up the elderly so they were going to kill us," she said, sobbing. "They were plotting to murder us and then they sent the buses away because we would all be killed if the buses came -- that's what the people in charge told us this morning."

Other survivors recounted horrific cases of sexual assault and murder.

Sitting with her daughter and other relatives, Trolkyn Joseph, 37, said men had wandered the cavernous convention center in recent nights raping and murdering children.

She said she found a dead 14-year old girl at 5 a.m. on Friday morning, four hours after the young girl went missing from her parents inside the convention center.

"She was raped for four hours until she was dead," Joseph said through tears. "Another child, a seven-year old boy was found raped and murdered in the kitchen freezer last night."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: bang; katrina; neworleans
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To: beyond the sea
When things like this happen......... you know this country is decadent!

The locals even in 3rd world Indonesia took personally care of criminal elements after the tsunami. It's hard to believe that large parts of the US have descended below the developing world.

21 posted on 09/03/2005 4:05:00 AM PDT by Truthsayer20
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To: bikepacker67
Thats my understanding for the most part what was left was the crimanl class, walfare class with few decent person mixed in.

That is why on my evacuation list one of the top items in a good handgun for each family member.

22 posted on 09/03/2005 4:05:32 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: All; MNJohnnie
Check this out:

“FEMA Director Michael Brown said his agency just learned about the situation at the convention center Thursday and scrambled to provide food, water and medical care and remove the corpses.”

From an AP article dated 9/3/2005.

23 posted on 09/03/2005 4:06:01 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And now, little man, I give the watch to you.”)
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To: Lonely Bull

Very few public officials are going to criticize Nagin (a black mayor) or Blanco (a female governor). That's just the way of things nowadays. But absence of comment by public officials doesn't blind the thinking populace. We see what happened and where the preponderance of blame lies.


24 posted on 09/03/2005 4:06:38 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: Truthsayer20

New Orleans isn't a "large" part of the US.

Yes there are other cities that would have behaved similarly but there are many more that would not.


25 posted on 09/03/2005 4:06:55 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: beyond the sea

It's not the country that is decadent.
Decadence is encouraged by the left, and it is evident in NO.


26 posted on 09/03/2005 4:09:10 AM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (what have you done today to fight terrorist/leftism (same thing!))
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To: Liberty Ship

Chickens coming home to roost.

Some time back, this country shifted from "Crime Deterrence" to "Crime Prevention"

"Deterrence" says "If you harm person or property, we will catch you, and you will be PUNISHED -- so you better watch yourself"

"Prevention" says "It's our job to stop you from harming person or property, and if we fail, then we might catch you, and we might fight through all the legal loopholes and ad-hoc made-up 'rights' and plea-bargains to actually convict you -- in which case you get to spend some time in a situation which is probably not as bad as your life on the streets. But it's really our fault that we didn't prevent you, so we're sorry."

Yet another "Liberal Truth" that has turned out to be just not so.


27 posted on 09/03/2005 4:09:45 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (MSM reporters -- rope is cheap and there are a LOT of trees...)
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To: Liberty Ship
A National Guardsman refused entry. "It doesn't need to be seen, it's a gearshift morgue in there," he told a Reuters photographer. "We're not letting anyone in there anymore. If you want to take pictures of dead bodies, go to Iraq."

This paragraph seems awfully out of character for our servicemen. And why would a National Guardsman say go to Iraq? Does the Guardsman think first of dead bodies when he thinks of Iraq? While it is possible he took that shot at the Iraq war, I know the character of the military and their knee jerk reaction to Iraq is not death. It is the freeing of millions of people from tyranny. They are proud to serve their country. Am I just being to analytical?

28 posted on 09/03/2005 4:10:57 AM PDT by coffee260 (coffee)
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To: Liberty Ship

This is the new hate...the hate that dare not speak its name. I wonder how long it will take our country to condemn it openly without qualification...the way we condemned the KKK, jim crow? I think it will be a while......which will only make things much, much worse.

(one a side note, I wonder how many other major cities are this unprepared for a catastrophy, especially ones of economic, strategic importance?)


29 posted on 09/03/2005 4:12:38 AM PDT by macamadamia
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To: DB
Where were all the decent men in there???

There were more than enough men to take out whatever roving gangs there were. Pathetic.

YEAH AND AMEN!!! WHERE WERE THE REAL MEN?!

They should have formed a citizens militia, with the few police DEPUTIZING every able bodied male to form groups, go though the crowd, letting criminals know they would be OPPOSED!!!

30 posted on 09/03/2005 4:12:51 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Joe Boucher
I've been up for awhile and watching our state news channel. There was an interview with 2 police offices that said something like conditions were so bad that they left for their own safety. Very matter of fact and blamed it on no support. I don't understand this. It's kind of like nurses and doctors abandoning their patients IMO. The reporter was very easy on them. I would have been asking harder questions. I know you do what you do to survive but when you take a job to protect others.... One of them even said he plans to go back into law enforcement elsewhere.
31 posted on 09/03/2005 4:13:15 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Liberty Ship

A story of a black woman photographed in the company of looters labeled a looter next to a photo of a white woman witnessed collecting things floating by not called a looter is plastered over every newspaper as a national embarrassment.

But have a 14 year old girl and a 7 year old boy raped to death for 4 hours by angry blacks in government camps, and there’s no mention of their race.


32 posted on 09/03/2005 4:13:24 AM PDT by elfman2 (2 tacos short of a combination plate)
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To: Liberty Ship

Liberty Ship has nailed it. Stay armed. If you think we live in a civilized country, you need to look reality in the face.


33 posted on 09/03/2005 4:14:43 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: AmericaUnited

It happened elsewhere, people bringing guns into another shelter were repeatedly surrounded until they left.


34 posted on 09/03/2005 4:15:40 AM PDT by elfman2 (2 tacos short of a combination plate)
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To: coffee260

Probably because he's seen a lot of dead bodies there and that's what comes to mind for him when one talks about dead bodies.


35 posted on 09/03/2005 4:15:51 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: GBoettner
This is what 60 years of liberalism will get you, sheep to the slaughter.

Amen, brother.

36 posted on 09/03/2005 4:17:35 AM PDT by Chieftain (Cindy Sheehan is a shameful example of an American mother!)
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To: Malesherbes
You're painting with an awfully broad brush there...
37 posted on 09/03/2005 4:20:49 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: beyond the sea
When things like this happen......... you know this country is decadent!

-not the country -half the country -the half that is being politically eradicated into complete irrelevance

No morality will be tolerated in the blue zone of tolerance -parking of morality only in the red zone... decadence parking welcomed and promulgated only in the blue zone...

-that is all...

38 posted on 09/03/2005 4:21:50 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

You gotta read this reply! sheep to slaughter


40 posted on 09/03/2005 4:23:10 AM PDT by Chieftain (Cindy Sheehan is a shameful example of an American mother!)
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