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California Senate votes to allow gay marriage
AP ^ | 8/2/05 | Steve Lawrence

Posted on 09/03/2005 1:19:30 AM PDT by Crackingham

California's Senate has voted to allow gay marriage, making it the first legislative body in the nation to back the idea and setting off a frantic scramble for votes in the Assembly. The 21-15 vote Thursday handed gay rights advocates in the country's most populous state a historic victory. Massachusetts issued marriage licenses to gays and lesbians only after court rulings.

"We are so very close," said Assemblyman Mark Leno, a Democrat who wrote the bill. "It would be very disappointing for this body not to be able to stand up for civil rights."

Leno said he planned to bring up the bill Tuesday and predicted that the Senate vote would help sway his undecided colleagues. In June, the Assembly rejected his bill by four votes. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's office had no comment Thursday on how the governor would respond if the bill reached his desk, spokeswoman Margita Thompson said.

Several senators equated the struggle for gay marriage to the civil rights movements. They said arguments against the bill were similar to arguments in supporting slavery and opposing interracial marriage.

"This is probably the most profound civil rights movement of our generation, without a doubt," said Sen. Jackie Speier, a Democrat who supported the bill.

Sen. Sheila Kuehl, one of six gay members of the Legislature, told the chamber that gay couples have the same hopes for their relationships as heterosexual couples.

"Gay and lesbian people fall in love. We settle down. We commit our lives to one another. We raise our children. We protect them. We try to be good citizens," said Kuehl, a Democrat. "This is a bill whose time has come."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab849; homosexualagenda; pervertperverts; perverts; pervertspervert; pervertsperverts; samesexmarriage
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1 posted on 09/03/2005 1:19:31 AM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham

Against the vote of the people.


2 posted on 09/03/2005 1:22:41 AM PDT by perfect stranger ("Hell Bent for Election" by Warburg)
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To: All
Jesus said: "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore, they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." -from THE BIBLE: Matthew 19:4-6

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3 posted on 09/03/2005 1:23:12 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: perfect stranger; Crackingham
Against the vote of the people.

Against the overwhelming vote of the people.

4 posted on 09/03/2005 1:28:32 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Crackingham

Given the events of the past week, it's time we realized that life is serious business, and we as a society haven't the luxury of accommodating these games and charades. If they want to play make-believe with their sexuality, let them do it on their own time, and with their own resources. Looking at what's going on in the world right now, I'm fed up with this crap.


5 posted on 09/03/2005 1:32:27 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Crackingham
"We raise our children...[sic]"

???

6 posted on 09/03/2005 1:36:20 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Crackingham
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This is so frustrating. We just voted against this a short time ago. WTF?

7 posted on 09/03/2005 1:36:56 AM PDT by Old Seadog (Whether you're rich or poor....it's nice to have money.)
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To: Crackingham

They could call this the Ben Dover bill I guess.


8 posted on 09/03/2005 1:59:21 AM PDT by guitarnick40 (When a liberal is in doubt, all they do is scream and shout.... "it's Bush's fault")
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
Homosexual "Marriage"

True marriage is the union of one man and one woman. Legal recognition of any other union as "marriage" undermines true marriage, and legal recognition of homosexual unions actually does homosexual persons a disfavor by encouraging them to persist in what is an objectively immoral arrangement.

"When legislation in favor of the recognition of homosexual unions is proposed for the first time in a legislative assembly, the Catholic lawmaker has a moral duty to express his opposition clearly and publicly and to vote against it. To vote in favor of a law so harmful to the common good is gravely immoral" (UHP 10).

UHP Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Considerations regarding Proposals to Give Legal Recognition to Unions between Homosexual Persons

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9 posted on 09/03/2005 2:01:40 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Crackingham

It is my understanding that it requires a 2/3 vote of the legislature to overturn a ballot initiative...


10 posted on 09/03/2005 2:04:10 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: perfect stranger
They tried this earlier in the year and it failed to pass the legislature. If it passes, who believes Arnold would actually sign it? In campaigns he was very specific about supporting traditional marriage.

Sorry, legislature but this is *not* the way to go about this. Although, if they *do* pass it, maybe it will help folks vote for change instead of sending back the scoundrels for another two years of pillaging the tax payer's pockets.

11 posted on 09/03/2005 2:09:00 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Cindy Sheehan: "All You Are Saying Is Give APPEASEMENT A Chance!")
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To: Crackingham
CA's voted by majority to approve "marriage" as being between one man and one woman. Very typical for the CA Dems to bypass law in order to enact WHAT THEY WANT. CA AG Bill Lockyer, after Prop 209 was passed -- announced publically, as an official, he wasn't going to obey that which was NOW a part of the CA Constitution.

And of course, I'm going to say the obvious: How typical of the gay lobby to do something like this while everyone's attention is focused on the Katrina Catastrophe.

12 posted on 09/03/2005 3:03:54 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Crackingham
I only hestitate to voice my true thoughts out of concern for the safety of the good and decent people who still reside in "occupied California".
13 posted on 09/03/2005 3:22:17 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

Well put.


14 posted on 09/03/2005 3:25:52 AM PDT by Lancer_N3502A
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To: newzjunkey
In campaigns he was very specific about supporting traditional marriage.

He also said he was going to cut up the credit cards and he has done nothing but borrow ever since. The Squirminator has no backbone.

15 posted on 09/03/2005 3:32:50 AM PDT by FOG724 (RINOS - they are not better than leftists, they ARE leftists.)
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To: Crackingham
"This is probably the most profound pungent bowel civil rights movement of our generation, without a doubt,"...
16 posted on 09/03/2005 4:05:23 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: little jeremiah; EdReform; DirtyHarryY2K; Clint N. Suhks; scripter
poing!

The Natural Laws Can Not Be Denied
- Resistance Is Futile!

17 posted on 09/03/2005 4:09:43 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: DBeers

Ok, here is a good morality question.

You are Gay and also Pro-Life.


18 posted on 09/03/2005 4:50:16 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: Alia
Ok, you Ca Constitutional law experts: As Alia indicates, Prop 209 Ammended the CA State Constitution. How is it that the legislature can go around a Constitutional Ammendment by passing a simple bill? If they could do that, how is it that we still have Prop. 13? Could someone 'splain tht to me? Rob
19 posted on 09/03/2005 7:05:55 AM PDT by ShihanRob
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To: Crackingham
Contact the bishops to let them know you disapprove: Live links for each diocese!

California

Eparchy of Our Lady of Lebanon of Los Angeles for Maronites
Most Reverend Robert J. Shaheen
1021 South Tenth Street
St. Louis, MO 63104

Diocese of Fresno
Most Reverend John T. Steinbock
1550 North Fresno Street
Fresno, CA 93703-3788

Archdiocese of Los Angeles
His Eminence Roger Cardinal Mahony
3424 Wilshire Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90010-2241

Most Reverend Edward W. Clark
Our Lady of the Angels Pastoral
5835 W. Slauson Avenue
Cluver City, CA 90230

Most Reverend Thomas J. Curry
Santa Barbara Pastoral Region
3240 Calle Pinon
Santa Barbara, CA 93105

Most Reverend Alexander Salazar
San Pedro Pastoral Region
3555 St. Pancratius Place
Lakewood, Ca 90712-1416

Most Reverend Oscar A. Solis
3424 Wilshire Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90010-2241

Most Reverend Gerald E. Wilkerson
P.O. Box 7608
Mission Hills, CA 91346-7608

Most Reverend Gabino Zavala
San Gabriel Pastoral Region
16009 East Cypress Avenue
Irwindale, CA 91706-2122

Diocese of Monterey
Most Reverend Sylvester D. Ryan
P.O. Box 2048
631 Abrego Street
Monterey, CA 93942-2048

Diocese of Oakland
Most Reverend Allen H. Vigneron
2900 Lakeshore Avenue
Oakland, CA 94610

Diocese of Orange
Most Reverend Tod D. Brown
2811 E. Villa Real Drive
P.O. Box 14195
Orange, CA 92866-1595

Most Reverend Dominic Dinh Mai Luong
2811 E. Villa Real Drive
P.O. Box 14195
Orange, CA 91863-1595

Most Reverend Jaime Soto
Office of Hispanic Ministry
Marywood Center
2811 Villa Real Drive
Orange, CA 92867

Diocese of Sacramento
Most Reverend William K. Weigand
2110 Broadway
Sacramento, CA 95818-2541

Most Reverend Richard J. Garcia
Diocesan Pastoral Center
2110 Broadway
Sacramento, CA 95818

Diocese of San Bernardino
Most Reverend Gerald R. Barnes
1201 E. Highland Avenue
San Bernardino, CA 92404

Most Reverend Rutilio J. del Riego, DLP, VG
1201 E. Highland Avenue
San Bernardino, CA 92404

Diocese of San Diego
Most Reverend Robert H. Brom
P.O. Box 85728
San Diego, CA 92186-5728

Most Reverend Gilbert E. Chávez
1535 Third Avenue
San Diego, CA 92101

Most Reverend Salvatore Cordileone
P.O. Box 85728
San Diego, CA 92186-5728

Eparchy of Saint Peter the Apostle of San Diego for Chaldeans
Most Reverend Sarhad Jammo
St. Joseph Chaldean Catholic Church
1627 Jamacha Way
El Cajon, CA 92019

Archdiocese of San Francisco
Most Reverend William J. Levada
One Peter Yorke Way
San Francisco, CA 94109

Most Reverend Ignatius Wang
One Peter Yorke Way
San Francisco, CA 94109

Most Reverend John C. Wester
One Peter Yorke Way
San Francisco, CA 94109

Diocese of San Jose
Most Reverend Patrick J. McGrath
900 Lafayette Street
Suite 301
Santa Clara, CA 95050-4966

Diocese of Santa Rosa
Most Reverend Daniel F. Walsh
320 10th Street
P.O. Box 1297
Santa Rosa, CA 95402-1297

Diocese of Stockton
Most Reverend Stephen E. Blaire
1105 N. Lincoln Street
Stockton, CA 95203


20 posted on 09/03/2005 8:25:54 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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