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Katrina Live Thread, Part XIV
Various ^ | 2 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/02/2005 3:03:06 PM PDT by NautiNurse

President Bush continues to assess the catastrophic damage by air and on the ground in Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana. Bush spent the day meeting with search and rescue personnel, relief commanders, and displaced residents in Mobile, Biloxi, and the New Orleans area. U.S. Congress passed a $10.5 billion relief package for the hurricane ravaged areas. First Lady Laura Bush issued a press statement from an evacuation shelter in Lafayette, Louisiana.

Patient and staff evacuations continue from numerous New Orleans Hospitals. Thousands of patients are being airlifted to a field hospital at Louis Armstrong New Orleans Airport for triage, staging, and transport to hospitals throughout the United States.

The U.S. Coast Guard and civilian volunteers continue to evacuate thousands of survivors from their flooded homes in New Orleans. The Army Corps of Engineers continues work to repair the damaged levees.

The nation's airlines today began an operation intended to fly up to 25,000 refugees out of New Orleans. The airlines are volunteering their aircraft and crews for the program. Long convoys loaded with relief supplies arrived throughout the day into New Orleans, while convoys of buses are moving survivors out of the city.

Several large fires are burning in the city and greater New Orleans area. Reports indicate snipers are holding down firefighters. Reports of shots fired with LEO down in the St. Bernard Parish area. Rescue operations are underway. A bus carrying NOLA evauees rolled over in Opelousa, LA.

Links to various news, local and state government websites:

WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula has link to locate family and friends
2theAdvocate - Baton Rouge Includes Slidell, St. John Parish, St. Bernard Parish updates, and other locations.
NOLA.com
Inside Houma Today includes shelter and volunteer updates
WLBT.com Jackson MS
WALA Channel 4 Mobile, AL Includes links to distribution centers, Emergency Ops, etc.
Sun-Herald Gulfport MS Includes link to town by town reports
Gulfport News via Topix.net
WAFB Baton Rouge
Mobile Register via al.com
Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger
Lafayette LA Daily Advertiser
Pensacola News Journal
St Bernard Local Government
Alabama Homeland Security Volunteers can sign up online
Alabama DOT
Alabama.gov
Louisiana Homeland Security
Louisiana State Police road closure info
State of Mississippi Website has traffic alerts, emergency contact numbers

Streaming Video:

New Orleans Emergency Operations Center - is now open:
504-463-1000
504-463-1001
504-463-1002

WWL-TV New Orleans (via WFAA Dallas) - WWL-TV is operating from studios at Louisiana Public Broadcasting. CBS has a relay during the morning and afternoon. When available, use the CBS relay first as they have greater streaming capacity. Yahoo has also provided a relay.

WDSU-TV New Orleans - The news staff has started to return to temporary news studios near New Orleans. However, expect evening coverage from Hearst-Argyle sister stations WAPT Jackson and WESH Orlando when the New Orleans staff needs to take a break.

WGNO-TV New Orleans - New Orleans' ABC affiliate has returned to the air with WBRZ-TV and launched video streaming with continuous Katrina coverage.

WPMI-TV Mobile, AL - WPMI is webcasting from 5:30am - 10:30pm CDT. When off air, you can view pre-recorded reports on demand. This feed is often unreliable.

WKRG-TV Mobile, AL - This station is providing good coverage of the situation to the east in Mississippi and Alabama. However, the station is now signing off at around 10:30pm CDT like WWL and WPMI.

WJTV-TV Jackson, MS - The CBS affiliate in Jackson is providing live coverage for both the Jackson area and south Mississippi (knowing a lot of media in that area is off the air).

United Radio From New Orleans: WWL-AM, WNOE-FM, "KISS-FM," WRNO-FM, WYLD-FM, and WJBO-AM who have joined forces as United Radio From New Orleans, and they are streaming.

Related FR Threads:

FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread FReeper Check In thread
Discussion Thread - Hurricane Katrina - What Went Wrong?!?
Post Hurricane Katrina IMAGES Here
Looting Begins In New Orleans
Hurricane Katrina HOUSING Thread
Martial Law Declared in New Orleans


Due to the number of requests to assist, the following list of some charities is provided.
This is not intended as an endorsement for any of the charities.

www.redcross.org or 1-800 HELP NOW - note: website is slow, and lines are busy
Salvation Army - 1-800-SAL-ARMY or Salvation Army currently looking for in-state volunteers - (888)363-2769
Operation Blessing: (800) 436-6348.
America's Second Harvest: (800) 344-8070.
Catholic Charities USA: (800) 919-9338, or www.catholiccharitiesusa.org.
Christian Reformed World Relief Committee: (800) 848-5818.
Church World Service: (800) 297-1516 or online at www.churchworldservice. org.
Lutheran Disaster Response: (800) 638-3522.
Nazarene Disaster Response: (888) 256-5886.
Presbyterian Disaster Assistance: (800) 872-3283.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is accepting donations at its 3,800 stores and Web site, www.walmart.com.
National Black Home Educators Resource Association http://www.nbhera.org/ Southern Baptist: NAMB - http://www.namb.net/
Samaritan's Purse - http://www.samaritanspurse.org/

Previous Threads:
Katrina Live Thread, Part XIII
Katrina Live Thread, Party XII
Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
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To: DrewsMum

That assumes that some Texas citizen doesn't take care of the problem him or herself, which is the usual outcome.


6,461 posted on 09/04/2005 1:47:48 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: DrewsMum

Please, someone tried to make this exact analogy last night. The Federal Government is tasked with border control. Not the state of Texas. The Feds will not allow it, rightfully so. I am sick and tired of us Texans taking the hit for EVERYBODY elses problem. Even had some bozo from Ohio demand that Texans give up property so that "someone" could build a freakin wall. Go to your state and county government and demand that THEY control people employing illegals.
/Rant off


6,462 posted on 09/04/2005 1:48:40 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Bless those in need this day)
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To: No Blue States

It'll be infinitely easier to deal with problems in a shelter situation, than in the confusion of the last week... Those with problems will most likely be identified early on as stress makes those problems appear more rapidly and on a greater scale. I would expect de-tox and rehab hospitals will see an influx...


6,463 posted on 09/04/2005 1:50:13 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: kmomma

God bless 'im.


6,464 posted on 09/04/2005 1:50:29 PM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie

Which is fine - this is an opportunity for those that were locked in by the NO welfare scam to get out and become productive citizens again, if they are so inclined. I welcome these types of people - from what I hear, that was a significant portion of them.


6,465 posted on 09/04/2005 1:50:37 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Conservababe
Help me out here. I am trying to remember if Dingle is a senator or congressman and if he is Dem or Republican.

Has anyone else heard that he is going to introduce a bill Tuesday to separate FEMA from Homeland Security and have the head of FEMA in a cabinet position?

Dingell is a Democrat Congressman. Who gets votes for being pro-gun.

6,466 posted on 09/04/2005 1:50:52 PM PDT by madison10
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To: kmomma

God Bless our marines...


6,467 posted on 09/04/2005 1:51:20 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

Now the media are all doing telephone interviews with all those people who were too stupid to evacuate in the first place..


6,468 posted on 09/04/2005 1:51:46 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: spectre
The 71 year-old lady is back on FOX and is remarkable -- prepared for this with food, water, drinking water, candles, portable radio. Didn't want to go to the convention center and superdome because of the problems there. The announcers are just intrigued by her and asking all sorts of questions. I wasn't sure I believed her at first, but I do now. She's just too real not to believe.
6,469 posted on 09/04/2005 1:51:52 PM PDT by CedarDave (MLKing, Jr: "I have a dream!", Howard Dean: "I have a scream!", Jesse Jackson: "I have a scheme!")
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To: Spktyr; Calpernia; All

Folks, just logged on for the afternoon but wondered if anyone else has heard this 71 year old woman they are interviewing now on Fox News.

She's got food, she's got lots of containers with water, she's got flashlights, and she's safe. She filled up a bunch of pots and containers with water. She's even got dog food for her dog. (She's probably armed if any looter decides to show up!) She's coordinated with her neighbors. She sounds like she'd be a good Freeper.

Heck, I think they need to appoint her as the director of emergency planning for New Orleans.


6,470 posted on 09/04/2005 1:51:56 PM PDT by StillProud2BeFree
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To: NautiNurse

"Interestingly, Fox has been interviewing people at the Astrodome. One doctor said that many of these people have not been seen by a doctor in YEARS, if ever. They are dealing with hypertension, congestive heart failure, diabetics, etc. Doctor on now saying they need insulin and congestive heart failure meds.

Seems to me we also are seeing evidence of a complete failure of the New Orleans public health system.

Fox commentator said in some ways the peope in the Astrodome are BETTER OFF, because they are finally getting medical care!"

Thank god someone finally said something, all this time I thought it was just me sitting here wondering (and screaming about) how in the world so many people could have left without their meds or without knowing what meds they have been taking, in some cases, for years; especially the diabetics. So much time had gone by without anyone saying anything, In the end, I just figured that any insulin dependent diabetic who had walked out the door without their meds and supplies couldn't have been taking very good care of their condition in the first place because if they had, the meds and equipment would've been one of the first things they grabbed on the way out the door out of sheer habit.

Somewhat off the subject: My son's an insulin dependent diabetic. I was so sick of seeing meds and supplies around the house and of having to pack up everything everytime we walked out the front door, that I just organized everything in a backpack and that's where it stays (with the exception of 3 meds that need to be refridgerated). Now that's just me being obsessive-compulsive but...I don't know...maybe someone living an earthquake or tornado prone area or who's always on the go will find the idea useful.

[returns to lurking mode]


6,471 posted on 09/04/2005 1:52:23 PM PDT by Teri0811
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To: Spktyr

Good point... let's hope they will take advantage of the help and leave behind their entitlement attitude. REAL hard times can do that to people...


6,472 posted on 09/04/2005 1:52:30 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: No Blue States

Where are you?

amom is within spittin distance of BRLA to help the Red Cross.


6,473 posted on 09/04/2005 1:52:54 PM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas (Freeper amom will be reporting live from BRLA)
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To: lainie

According to an NPR story yesterday, "Many who fled flooded New Orleans for shelter in Houston's Astrodome are already eyeing potential jobs and considering making Houston their new home. Will evacuation turn into immigration



I went to the local Best Western today (here in houston suburb) and met a family that is considering making houston their home and as we speak are out trying to find apartment/house and a job. They are a great family who left before the hurricane and definately do not *want* a handout,,,but their money is running out (they have been there for 8 days with 2 rooms at 65$ each. Very productive citizens, I got their info and will be checking on them and if any one of you live here in houston close to southeast and want to help them they have a little girl clothes size 4t and a boy size 12-14,,,,they used to live in a suburb of new orleans,,,pretty much middle class,,,


6,474 posted on 09/04/2005 1:54:19 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: StillProud2BeFree

She sounds like a great American - resourceful, prepared, and ready to do what needs to be done.

That said, I hope they find her soon.


6,475 posted on 09/04/2005 1:54:31 PM PDT by radiohead (Proud member of the 'arrogant supermagt')
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To: LibertyRocks; Spktyr

Yep, as they say, a conservative is a liberal who got mugged. Or tried to start and maintain a small business. Or survived Lake Nagin/Lake Blanco.


6,476 posted on 09/04/2005 1:54:40 PM PDT by lainie
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To: StillProud2BeFree

Sounds like she remembers her old Civil Defense training from the Cold War (or earlier). That's exactly what you're supposed to do - fall back to your shelter, regroup, band together with neighbors and allies, and then advance or continue or whatever the situation demands.


6,477 posted on 09/04/2005 1:54:42 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Your comment about the welfare system being calculated to keep people on it has a distinct ring of truth.

When most Americans in the Northeast hear about the $5.15/hr minimum wage, they think it's some hypothetical figure that only migrant workers would earn. When I lived in Massachusetts, I couldn't imagine even a high school kid rolling out of bed for a job at Burger King that paid less than $8.00/hr.

When I moved to Louisiana, I was horrified to discover that people really *do* earn $5.15/hr, and that a job paying $7.00/hr is considered a princely sum and too much to qualify for subsidy benefits.

A mother with one child in Louisiana who is a welfare recipient only receives $188/mo in actual cash, $247/mo in food stamps, 100% child care if enrolled in a vocational training program (without subsidy, figure $300/mo for full-time care for one child) and partial reimbursement of travel expenses to participate in the vocational activity. If this same mother and child are on Section 8 rental housing, 100% subsidized housing (which isn't much considering how low the rents are, maybe $400 and up for a 2-bedroom apartment) plus a monthly check to provide partial payment toward utilities (maybe $125/mo average for electricity in a 2-bedroom apartment, but drastically more in a trailer due to lack of insulation, maybe $300/mo). It isn't enough to get by because it doesn't cover car insurance of the full cost of utilities, BUT...

When this mother finds a job and gets off the welfare roll, she finds out the hard way that it wasn't worth it after all to work. Say she gets a job for $7-8/hr (and that's shooting really high because most will get minimum wage) and takes home $1,000/mo net pay. Now she's suddenly responsible for one-third of her gross income in Section 8 rent, all the utilities, only partial reimbursement of child care, all but $120/mo in transportation expenses (you do get what's called a post-FITAP check for that amount but only if you can stay consecutively employed for 12 months after getting off welfare) and all the groceries because your food stamps have been shut off, plus auto insurance if she can even afford a car. You'd be astounded at the number of people in Louisiana who don't have driver's licenses, just state ID cards.

Do the math -- taking net versus gross income into consideration, if you were a single mother, which might you choose?

David Vitter had these TV commercials during his campaign where he stood in his kitchen pouring a bowl of Cheeries and pontificating about how "I think welfare recipients should work for their benefits." A lot of people agree with him in theory, but if he knew how much it cost to make them do it, he would realize that it isn't cost-effective.

Specifically, a woman who walks into the Louisiana Office of Family Support and applies for welfare benefits is told that in order to qualify for benefits, she has to be engaged in a job-related activity for 35 hours per week.

They used to evaluate the applicant's skills and experience and route her accordingly. A woman who had clerical experience might be assigned to do filing right there in the OFS office and decide to pursue a civil service career using that as a base. Another woman who had no skills might be sent to Goodwill Industries to sort clothes, and they might keep her full-time if they liked her. How many people do you know who would willingly work 35 hours per week in exchange for $188 per *month*?

But they don't do it that way any more. Now they have this ridiculous thing called Job Readiness Training to which they even send mothers desperately in need of Parenting training. For 35 hours a week for the first 4 weeks you receive welfare, you sit in a classroom and have the teacher (a consultant brought in from the Louisiana Department of Labor) pick you apart and tell you what's wrong with you and why you're not ready for the job market. And God forbid you look for a job on your own during this month -- if you get called for an interview during class time, you are NOT allowed to go and meet with the prospective employer, because you're not putting in your 35 hours of your required activity. If you defy the teacher and go to the interview anyway, you are threatened with sanctions against your benefits.

And how much does it cost to put someone through Job Readiness Training? In addition to having the family on the welfare/food stamp rolls, the system also pays for daily transportation reimbursement and child care expense to make sure the mother is sitting in that classroom 35 hours a week...and NOT looking for a job.

The posters on FR who judge these women so harshly and call them "welfare queens" don't have all the facts. They've never seen the bureaucracy from the inside out. If wages were high enough in Louisiana that people could support their families without needing subsidies, more women would get off welfare. But until it becomes cost-effective to be self-sufficient, things aren't going to change in this state.


6,478 posted on 09/04/2005 1:54:45 PM PDT by buickmackane (reporting from Pineville, Rapides Parish, LA)
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To: Spktyr

My daughter is in college in the Houston area and she informed me on Friday night that they are already having problems from some of the NO refugees. I will be watching the Houston newspapers. I have confidence that when any of the thugs get out of line they will be dealt with accordingly.


6,479 posted on 09/04/2005 1:54:49 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

Is it me or do you think that Gov. Rick Perry looks like fine presidential potential for 2008? People are talking about him being a candidate for 2008. Another Texan in the White House would absolutely put the Dems out of their minds.


6,480 posted on 09/04/2005 1:54:53 PM PDT by kmomma
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