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WHY DIDN'T YOU DEPLOY THE BUSES, MAYOR?... New Orleans Lost Opportunity
Matt Drudge ^ | 8-2-05 | Drudge

Posted on 09/02/2005 12:29:42 PM PDT by joinedafterattack

WHY DIDN'T YOU DEPLOY THE BUSES, MAYOR?... New Orleans Lost Opportunity


WHY DIDN'T YOU DEPLOY THE BUSES, MAYOR?...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: buses; drudge; evacuation; hurricane; katrina; lakenagin; mayor; naggingnagin; nagin; neworleans; noballsnagin; pajamapatrol; wimp
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To: BigSkyFreeper

"It's the Lord, Nagin..."


141 posted on 09/02/2005 1:01:16 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Borax Queen

ping


142 posted on 09/02/2005 1:01:31 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel
The photo of empty unused buses shows that there were plenty of buses at the disposal of the government and that they were not used to evacuate people.

The photo illustrates the incompetence of the city and state government in LA and NO. Those are the people who never had a plan to evacuate people- they know they have tons of people in the city without cars- why did they not have a plan to evacuate people without cars and take them to the superdome??? They left those buses empty and unused-that is why the fuss is about the photo.

Slow witted People with half a brain should not be in position of authority-but for some reason the democrats keep electing them.

143 posted on 09/02/2005 1:01:48 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: finallyatexan

Shep thought by over acting his role there in N.O he'd be a sure winner of the coveted Walter Cronkite award! Sickening!


144 posted on 09/02/2005 1:02:11 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: gubamyster
"Why didn't they set up a tent city or some sort of temporary staging area about an hour outside of NO?"

Well, who knows? Brainy liberals have only had decades to plan such a simple thing. But when push comes to shove, oddly enough, the wonderful geniuses seem to miss the most obvious things.

It's odd, isn't it, how they can spew endlessly about their vaunted intelligence and moral sensitivity, but somehow they never, ever actually to do anything even remotely intelligent. I mean, they've only had decades and many billions of dollars to plan for such paltry, simple things as food, shelter, and a place to go to the bathroom.

145 posted on 09/02/2005 1:02:33 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: evets
Look at the Mayors "T" shirt, the Desire Housing project is one of the largest in New Orleans, is he trying to say he is a Homey so he doesn't become a target?

(Or maybe he is just trying to motivate his constituency)

TT
146 posted on 09/02/2005 1:02:50 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Loyal Buckeye
His rant this morning on CNN does not square up with the caravan that started rolling into the city at 9 a.m.

As I said in the Presidential live thread from this morning, the mayor is too busy talking to the a-holes at CNN to be bothering with any leadership, and people wonder why he's out of the loop.

147 posted on 09/02/2005 1:03:01 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: joinedafterattack

New Orleans has, quite literally, been turned inside out, and America has had some of its most terrible national vulnerabilities exposed for the world to see. Our enemies are taking notes. We better be taking some notes, too.

It will be more difficult for people to ignore explicit hurricane warnings for at least a generation, so harping on the accuracy of the National Hurricane Center’s predictions of what would happen when this storm came ashore is pointless. Whether this renewed respect for the National Weather Service is transferable to the other agencies we pay to warn us remains to be seen.

The chattering classes have also had thrust upon them an unnerving look at America’s urban underclass, washed out from behind the curtain and shaken out on the living room floor. That’s the same New Orleans that was always there, by the way. It’s just been turned inside out. It’s not a pretty picture.

Among the working poor came the gangs and the addicts and all that they could carry through the floodwaters, and now they are angry, we are being told. They were angry before, of course, but now they are storm victims, with all the attendant trauma and dumbfounded astonishment that accompanies that unhappy state of mind and being.

A lot of people watching from a distance are angry for them, some with some sort of bizarre guilt and misdirected anger less for the victims, I would imagine, than for some sense that somebody, somewhere, has made a terrible mistake.

But this is not Chernobyl. A lot of people made a choice to be, or just happened to be, in the wrong place at the wrong time and lightning struck. There is plenty of the uniquely human kind of outrageous stupidity to go around, but FEMA isn't the problem.

Unless, of course, governments tend to foster dependence. Afterall, FEMA's original primary mission is COG, or "Continuity of Government," not search and rescue.

In Mississippi and Alabama, where the largest storm surge ever recorded has swept away whole communities and families, there is anger too. Anyone who has ever sat upon the ground in the stillness of the ruins after these storms understands how it feels to have the startlingly thin veneer of modern civilization ripped away. Patience does eventually transform to discomfort and then to fear, which manifests itself as anger as first the hours, then the days and then the weeks pass by and the illusion of self-sufficiency brings both humility and humiliation.

All the anger is useless, of course, but reason gives way at times like these. It’s important, however, all the more to rely on reason. Especially by all of us who are trying to help. It is reasonable, for example, to understand that nature is not your mother and government is not your father.

The 1900 Galveston Hurricane began the transformation of the National Weather Bureau from a meteorological survey into something that gives people warning of the impending arrival of killer storms. Hurricane Andrew in 1992 demonstrated the value of building codes and satellites, but it also showed the powerlessness of government to come to the aid of the storm’s victims in a timely fashion.

We’re going to learn a lot from Katrina. Not all of it will be welcome. None of it will be pretty.

If this is a preview of how America’s governments are prepared to react in the aftermath of a nuclear attack on a single city, for example, in a scenario more likely than a wholesale nuclear war these days, then this dress rehearsal is not very encouraging. Some of those problems, now exposed for our enemies to see, may be beyond fixing until long after it’s too late.

Andrew taught the federal government to preposition relief supplies and reduce response and rescue time by many days, but that’s not going to be good enough for some people.

For others, it begs the question of what would be good enough?

It demonstrates the stark reality that people, families, and communities need to prepare to take care of themselves for some reasonable period of time before disaster strikes. And I don’t mean by buying flood insurance.

Katrina is going to teach us a lot about New Orleans, and New Orleans will show us how quickly local governments, and then state governments, can simply collapse. In comparison to the magnitude of a such a vast and powerful storm, governments are simply frauds, and always were, and the indulgence of their constituents alone keeps them afloat.

This disaster has exposed a People who are too dependent on government and who become helpless when government staggers. It has exposed one of many of America’s Great Cities who have among their people some who will immediately turn on authorities when the support they voted to support fails, even momentarily.

For Americans to rely upon one another, we must also be able to rely on ourselves. As anyone who takes on the responsibility of being a part of a family knows, you can’t help others when you can’t help yourself.


148 posted on 09/02/2005 1:03:47 PM PDT by Prospero (Ad Astra!)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

I swear, every time I read a post about the mayor, he's on CNN "ranting".


149 posted on 09/02/2005 1:03:54 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: Motherbear

No he needs to take it back to if not Carter and Clinton, to Moon Landrieu, corrupt mayor and father of Sen. Mary Landrieu and Mitch Landrieu... Who didn't factor in installation costs in his disaster windfall before, hence didn't install the pumps and kept them at a family's members company. If they want to go there, let them... we're really.


150 posted on 09/02/2005 1:04:00 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: RoseofTexas

Let the church say Amen.


151 posted on 09/02/2005 1:04:43 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: OldFriend

Well in Africa they rape children....


152 posted on 09/02/2005 1:04:55 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

The Gov, the head of their state homeland security, the mayor, and many others knew the levees were built to withstand a cat 3 hurricane. In the face of a pending cat 4/5 heading at their levees, they did not force the evacuation when they had the means to do so. That is only one of their many mistakes.


153 posted on 09/02/2005 1:05:41 PM PDT by rit
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel
To say that they should have been moved to high ground before the storm is hindsight B.S.

Um, let's see. NOLA is under sea level to begin with, there's a Cat5 storm bearing straight on for NOLA, a mandatory evac is ordered, and the buses are left parked in a lot that flooded. Maybe some FORESIGHT on the part of the Mayor and Governor could have utilitized these better. Yes, hindsight is 20/20, but foresight is the responsibility of our elected leaders.

154 posted on 09/02/2005 1:05:46 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("If not us, who? And if not now, when? - Ronald Reagan)
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To: joinedafterattack

Sure, try to blame it on the victim!

George Bush and Halliburton own those buses!

Has to be! Has to be!

It's all Bush's fault!

/outraged lefty voice


155 posted on 09/02/2005 1:05:56 PM PDT by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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To: TexasTransplant
I guess it has been said my my two-cents.

Where's the plan? Where's the local leadership?

After 9-11 everyone saw Mayor Guiliani of New York City out with the people or at his Command Post. Everyone saw Governor Pataki of New York at a Command Post or other location in the forefront.

Where is the Louisiana Governor? Where is the New Orleans Mayor? Where was the State's Disaster Plan? Where was the City's disaster plan. Where is someones Command Center to organize and direct this effort? The State/City didn't even use the resources available to it to enforce an evacuation, as seen in the picture of the school buses. If they had used all resources less people would have been left inside the city when the hurricane hit.

The Federal Government can only come in at the request of the Governor and for the missions asked for, which can later be expanded. All Federal forces there (FEMA, etc) work essentially for the Governor of the State, even though they can reach nationally to get what is needed. The National Guard belongs to the Governor, by law, not to a President. The active duty forces can not participate in law enforcement activities because of a 100+ year old law.

As far as getting the resupply through you need to have a transportation system, road network, that is usable. You can not just drop a pallet with several thousand pounds of food and water just anywhere. You can't get into a flooded area with these supplies. The first concern was rightly search and rescue and the first National Guardsmen sent to the area had the mission of humanitarian relief not law enforcement.

It does take time to get there and some prepositioned assets should have utilized sooner, true. But I think the situation on the ground (leadership, flood and resistance) maybe played a larger role than we can anticipate.

Who would have thought there would be armed resistance. I'm guessing human nature came to the fore, bad human nature. As a report said on Austin local TV station: His daughter asked "why would they shot at anyone trying to help them?" Why is right.

This tragedy, the human tragedy, could have been mitigated to a large degree by good planning an execution by the local elected officials. An evacuation plan and the ability to carry it out. A validated and practiced plan that exercises the agencies involved, it's done around the country all the time.

Disorganization seems to abound at the local level. Communications were and still are severely lacking from the mayor and Governor. Maybe that is why the police department appeared to be not in control after the hurricane had left and the news crews were there. Lets be realistic any police departments' primary responsibility is the security of that city in which they serve.

Texas can fell good though, as Texas is far ahead in that they have been actively planning since 9-11 as evidenced by them stepping up to the plate so early to help. This is also true for some other states. Of course after 25 years in the military I am use to organization and having practiced the planning as well as the execution, for disasters and for war, I know it does work.

Leadership at the local level is what is needed and IMHO is what is lacking. The President nor FEMA is in charge here.

I was always taught to lead that you must lead from the front.

Finger pointing will now ensue.
156 posted on 09/02/2005 1:07:06 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: AryanPower

Racist punk.
Shut up.


158 posted on 09/02/2005 1:07:56 PM PDT by Darksheare (There is a Possum in the works.)
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To: joinedafterattack
how many buses could have been pre-positioned at the Superdome instead of being left for the flood? (I copied semi trailers, so it's likely they could fit even more buses


159 posted on 09/02/2005 1:08:26 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: OXENinFLA

What sticks out is he said "I'm not a drug addict", hence, he is a drug addict. I guess if he wasn't he is now.


160 posted on 09/02/2005 1:08:30 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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