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HURRICANE KATRINA- archive of links
various FR links & stories
| 09-02-05
| the heavy equipment guy
Posted on 09/02/2005 3:35:55 AM PDT by backhoe
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Previous Threads:
Katrina Live Thread, Party XIIKatrina Live Thread, Part XIKatrina Live Thread, Part XKatrina Live Thread, Part IXHurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIIIHurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIIHurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIHurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VHurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IVHurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part IIIKatrina Live Thread, Part IIHurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
And a special hattip to our own
NautiNurse who started and maintained the above valuable posts--
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First off, let's debunk and defang the myth, meme, shibboleth and current hot talking point that "It's ALL Bush's Fault"--
I have heard many leftists say that Bush slashed $20 million from FEMA funds that would have been used to reinforce the levee system in New Orleans.
Source:
People have been talking for years about what would happen should a hurricane this size hit that city, and I'd be willing to bet you there were lots of federal dollars passed from hand to hand over the years to prepare for this.
I will be astounded if some of those reporters don't ask the obvious questions: Where did the money go, why weren't officials prepared? It's not like it was a secret this could happen someday.
Q.3. Why only Category 3 protection?
A.3. That is what we were authorized to do. [Answer by the Corps of Engineers]
There are already the accusations that federal money was diverted away from improving NO's levee system for other purposes, likely the war.Yes, Sidney Blumenthal already planted that political urban press using the foreign press to launder out the Clinton fingerprints. The way to shoot it down is to explain that the fed money was there but because LA refused to put up any of the state matching funds that were required by law before the fed money could be spent. Since LA made it clear for several years that they weren't going to provide those matches and expected the feds to pay 100%, the money was diverted to other needs, of which there were many.
Even with full funding in recent years, none of the flood-control projects would have been completed in time to prevent the swamping of the city, as Democrats yesterday acknowledged.
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What is worse, this danger was known about, and written about, and studied, for years:
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Here are the pictures:
http://sigmund.biz/kat/index.html has the archives of both the cam and camera shots taken from just before the hurricane to today. (it takes quite a while to load unless you have wide broadband.)
Complete Aerial Picture Survey of Mississippi Coast Damage
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...and here is contact information for those trying to get information:
Food for the Hungry , is a good solid Christian relief organization with VERY LOW Administration cost. Approx 93% of contributions go to actual relief.
Don't know if anyone has posted this yet, but here is a website for people to leave messages letting loved ones know they are OK or to post the names of people they are in search of: Katrina Check-In
Like I said, it's "Mogadishu on the Mississippi"
Hurricane Katrina Survivor Locator Boards
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In roughly reverse chronological order, here are the best links I have culled since this story broke:
New Orleans radio system flooded -- "I'm absolutely astounded by the degree and pervasiveness of the incompetence and malfeasance at both the municipal as well as state goernment level in this disaster." -- if you've been watching the Governor, the mayor and police chief the past few days ...... to call them "incompetent" is an insult to incompetents.
Instant Haiti.
NOLAntis. The Lost City.
Masques of Death (A sewer of applied liberalism, New Orleans was lawless long before this week.)
It is obscene.
The Katrina syndrome: What a hurricane can teach -- I didn't really enjoy the article until the end..when he compared how they everyone the warnings about levees and sea levels and hurricanes, etc., until disaster struck....and then it was too late.
And when he then compared that to the border issue, and how the signs are all there, but nobody in the government cares to do anything about it. And when they do, it will be too late.
Gasoline Prices & Katrina
Hurricanes, Hatred and Hypocrisy
Yep. But she has vanished. She can't go on television without bawling like a baby, so her handlers are hiding her.
You asked, "What in the world is wrong with the governor??"
She's so afraid of doing something wrong that she can't do anything right. You can see her "deer in the headlights" look on television. She's an incompetent political hack thrown into a nightmare situation and she's just frozen.
Amen to that! I agree 100%! If they had show the real carnage, people would be supporting our troops now, instead of low-lifes like Cindy Sheehan.
The global warming crowd says it's Bush's fault.
The Zionist Christians say it's Bush's fault.
The Islamist Jihadists say it's Bush's fault.
The Democrats say it's Bush's fault.
Millions of idiots can't be wrong.
Thousands Feared Drowned in New Orleans -- I've never seen such poor planning and leadership in my life. the Mayor and Governor should be tarred & feathered. This is just inexcusable, unbelievable incompetence.
Heart of America: Common People Doing Heroic Things
Thought-provoking opinion:
" In my opinion, the time for optimism has passed. New Orleans did not dodge a bullet, New Orleans suffered a worst case doomsday scenario. But this is far far bigger than New Orleans alone.
By my count, America has lost not one city, but nine of them. "
Storm may shut refineries for months -- Keep the EPA multiple gas blend suspension in force, suspend the federal & state gas taxes indefinitely, start importing from IRAQ, drill - drill - drill where the caribou roam & wherever else it is geologically promising, start building refineries & identical nuke plants (one thing the French have done right), start using our vast coal supply by building liquification/gasification plants.
Turn Bases into Refineries part 2 -- This is a excellent idea, which will help the LONG term problem (just like building 10 new nuke power plants).
For SHORT term help, suspend taxes on gas for 90 days, suspend requirements for 40 different blends of gas for the nation, pass legislation to end lawsuits against MTBE's (which the enviro-weenies are responsible for in the first place), proclaim closed military bases as "refinery empowerment zones", where they will have a 100 year lease on the land, be shielded against environmental lawsuits, and not taxed for 10 years.
Analysts see Katrina as `perfect storm' for already high energy prices -- We own all of the oil sitting underneath Iraq. Why aren't we pumping it for ourselves? Gas should be 50¢ a gallon. We also own tons of oil up in the arctic. To hell with the environmental wackos - start drilling!
Timeline as best as I can quickly reconstruct from the earlier Katrina threads (times are CDT) -
- Sometime before 5 pm Friday,, the governor issues a state of emergency for Louisiana
- As of 10:45 pm Friday, New Orleans was simply monitoring the storm.
- At 10 pm Friday, the National Hurricane Center's 3-day track targets New Orleans for a late-afternoon Monday strike. The previous track issued at 4 pm bulls-eyed the Mississippi-Alabama line
- At 10 am Saturday, the NWS issues a hurricane watch for New Orleans.
- By 11:30 am Saturday, evacuations were ordered for parishes to the south and east of New Orleans.
- At 12:22 pm Saturday, Diddle E. Squatt points out that allowing the southern parishes to evacuate first is part of the plan.
- At 4:45 pm Saturday, the voluntary evacuation order for New Orleans is given. At this point, the NWS track shows the eye hitting about 1 pm Monday.
- At 3 am Sunday, the mayor claimed he could not make the evacuation mandatory due to a "legal technicality", and that he would order it if he could.
- At 9:25 am Sunday the evacuation became mandatory.
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I wonder if someone should start a tread for ideas on how we can all prepare ourselves for a disaster like this? Go to the Threat Matrix threads. LOTS of information.
Travel Pack --- BOB (Bug Out Bag)
(These items should be packed in portable "duffle bags" ready to go)
1-qt water per person
Identification (copies of records/cd
2-"energy bars" per person
Dehydrated food pack for one week dried fruit, vegetables, meat flour, oil, salt, pepper, spices vitamins, honey,peanut butter crackers, protein powder, powder milk
Collapsible 5 ga. Water containers
"Water washer" filter
Lightweight cook kit large pot, dishes, spoons, forks knives, cups, non-stick skillet spatula, can opener, large spoon
Towels
2-water proof nylon tarps
Change of clothes for each person
Coats,
1-thermal blanket
1-sleeping bag / person
Matches, fire starter
Compass, maps of areas of intended use
2-rechargeable/shakable flashlights
12v trouble light w/@cig. lighter plug
First aid kit
Toilet paper,
Soap
1-pocket knife
1-fishing kit
1-large bowie knife (western cutlery) (perfectly weighted to serve as both fire knife and hatchet etc)
1-small portable mt. Climber's stove
1-back pack with frame
Paper, pencil
Signaling mirror
1-manual flashlight
Whistle , portable cable saw
Small bottle of bleach, insect repellent.
Magnifying glass
100 ft. 1/2 dia. Goldline rope,
2 pulleys
50 ft. Nylon "shroudline" cord
.22 caliber pistol w/ 500 rds. Ammo.
There are many, many variations of this Bug Out Bag. Some place more reliance on defense, property, records.
Seems one should prepare according to their own specific needs, location. Here's some info, left over from the Y2K 'scare' and survivalists
FYI
Google Search for Bug Out Bag = BOB
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posted on
09/02/2005 3:35:57 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: backhoe
Thanks for this. Bookmarking for future reference.
To: backhoe
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posted on
09/02/2005 3:49:53 AM PDT
by
Cindy
To: Cindy; looney tune
Thanks for stopping by-- here is a little more:
Hunger and rage (American city becomes a Third World nightmare) ... Little Somalia ... I watched some of the news yesterday for the first time as what stuck me was the HUGE difference in how the leadership and people of New York reponded to 911, and how the leadership and people of New Orleans responded to Katrina. New Yorkers were tough, determined, resolved, didn't loot, helped others, didn't complain, whine, sit around like helpless babies, expecting 'gubmint' to do everything...
I suppose I should add this, since it is related:
Sticker Shock-$3 a gallon gas? Click the picture:
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posted on
09/02/2005 4:01:53 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: backhoe
Thank you for your dedication to archiving this. The timeline is particularly valuable.
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posted on
09/02/2005 4:06:03 AM PDT
by
Peach
(South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
To: backhoe
Excellent backhoe! Thank you. :)
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posted on
09/02/2005 4:06:24 AM PDT
by
Ros42
To: backhoe
Ugh! I paid $3.01 yesterday. Took $40 to fill my tank.
To: Peach; Ros42
Appreciate the kind words- thanks for stopping by.
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posted on
09/02/2005 4:17:17 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: looney tune
Ugh! I paid $3.01 yesterday. Took $40 to fill my tank.I know what you mean-- my truck, and Mrs. B's little buzz bomb needed gas yesterday, and I thought I was going to have to go down to the bank and take out a loan to pay for it. At least I was able to get gas-- the day before that stupid "gas panic" hit Georgia, and there were lines, standing room only, and angry drivers everywhere.
A sign in Atlanta:
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posted on
09/02/2005 4:22:35 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: All
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posted on
09/02/2005 4:28:51 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: backhoe
Did you check out the first two links in your post? The Federal Register refered to is -
[Federal Register: June 23, 1998 (Volume 63, Number 120)]
[Notices]
[Page 34151-34153]
From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov]
[DOCID:fr23jn98-32]
"Intent To Prepare a Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS) for the West Shore--Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana, Hurricane Protection Feasibility Study"
How does this as a "matter of fact" reflect on Clinton?
To: Smartaleck
What's strange is "The Federal Register ^" link takes me to a blank page-- it was there last night.
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posted on
09/02/2005 8:50:53 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: backhoe
What's strange is "The Federal Register ^" link takes me to a blank page-- it was there last night."
Try this
EPA: Federal Register: Intent To Prepare a Draft Environmental ...
... 1998 (Volume 63, Number 120)] [Notices] [Page 34151-34153] From the Federal
Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov] ****[DOCID:fr23jn98-32]**** ...
http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-IMPACT/1998/June/Day-23/i16642.htm
To: Smartaleck
Thanks, that's even stranger- the document I saw early this morning was a stullifyingly huge black & white page with no graphics and TT ( typewriter ) font.
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posted on
09/02/2005 10:56:08 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: Peach
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posted on
09/02/2005 10:56:45 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: backhoe
Thank you so much, backhoe.
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posted on
09/02/2005 11:05:58 AM PDT
by
Peach
(South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
To: All
A national disgrace --
"At all levels, government is overbearing and nagging, paying for people's prescription drugs and telling us whether we can smoke in restaurants or not. But when it comes to its most elemental task of maintaining order and protecting property, it might not be up to the task when it is needed most.""Keep that in mind and buy a gun, just in case."
Mess on the Mississippi -- the surrounding nub of land around the last 20 miles of the rivers, known colloquially as the "crow's foot," was decimated by the storm.
An Unnatural Disaster: A Hurricane Exposes the Man-Made Disaster of the Welfare State -- "
There were many decent, innocent people trapped in New Orleans when the deluge hit--but they were trapped alongside large numbers of people from two groups: criminals--and wards of the welfare state, people selected, over decades, for their lack of initiative and self-induced helplessness. The welfare wards were a mass of sheep--on whom the incompetent administration of New Orleans unleashed a pack of wolves."
New Orleans refugees bitter after Katrina ordeal -- "This is a prime example of what happens when a country has generation after generation after generation of people on welfare. Its not "how can I help myself or my family" its "what is the government going to give me and when will I get it?" mentality."
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posted on
09/02/2005 1:30:01 PM PDT
by
backhoe
To: backhoe
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posted on
09/02/2005 1:31:08 PM PDT
by
Born Conservative
("If not us, who? And if not now, when? - Ronald Reagan)
To: Born Conservative; All
Thanks for looking- here's a little more:
Katrina Takes Aim -- I had forgotten that a state of emergency was called BEFORE THE STORM EVEN HIT
Mark Steyn on Hugh Hewitt Re: Hurricane Katrina -- Robert Kaplan, when he talks about what's happened in failed West African states, calls it the re-primitivation of man. And that's actually what we're seeing in New Orleans. It's the best commercial for owning a gun I've ever seen.
Republicans Ask Guiliani to guide Relief effort -- Finally. I can't take many more appearances by Ms. Governor or Mayor Hate-Whitey or Senator Ima Bitch-Landrieu.
These clowns need to be sent packing and someone who is effective needs to take charge
Second Amendment. Learn it, live it, love it.
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posted on
09/02/2005 3:58:59 PM PDT
by
backhoe
("The Drowned World" John Brunner)
To: All
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posted on
09/02/2005 4:50:27 PM PDT
by
backhoe
("The Drowned World" John Brunner)
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