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1 posted on 08/31/2005 11:33:29 AM PDT by george wythe
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Would it be faster to rebuild the city upstream than where it is??

Think of all the construction jobs...


2 posted on 08/31/2005 11:35:39 AM PDT by RockinRight (What part of ILLEGAL immigration do they not understand?)
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That's amazing... people KNEW that the Hurricane was going to hit them. They knew it with enough days in advance. In any case, now it's time to send some help to this devastated region.


3 posted on 08/31/2005 11:35:41 AM PDT by Kurt_D
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That many people did not listen to the calls to get out before. Wow, seems high.


4 posted on 08/31/2005 11:36:12 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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It says "Article no longer available" but if you click on the "print version", you get the following:
Article published Aug 31, 2005
Mayor: hundreds, maybe thousands, dead in New Orleans.

"We know there is a significant number of dead bodies in 
the water," Nagin said.

He said there are others dead in attics.

Asked for a number, he said, "Minimum hundreds, most likely 
thousands."


6 posted on 08/31/2005 11:37:01 AM PDT by Paradox (Budweiser, fighting for the Right to Keep and Beer Arms.)
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RIP. People who perished and New Orleans, a great American city.

This summer I wanted to take a driving trip from New Orleans up the Mississippi delta to Nashville and then over to Virigina panhandle. But, I couldn't.

Now I can never take that same trip. There's a lot lost forever.

I wish I'd just gone on the trip.

7 posted on 08/31/2005 11:37:01 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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If Katrina has not already directly cost the lives of thousands, I will be grateful for the miracle, but very much surprised.


8 posted on 08/31/2005 11:37:03 AM PDT by Maceman (Pro Se Defendant from Hell)
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Not something we don't already know. I can also tell you that people are not meant to bake on top of a rooftop for more than 36-48 hours. I don't think you are going to find many survivors within the next 48 hours except in Uptown and a few pockets of dry areas.


9 posted on 08/31/2005 11:37:20 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (RIP New Orleans 1718-2005)
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More prayers to all affected. It's mind boggling, almost incomprehensible.


10 posted on 08/31/2005 11:37:45 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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The Spoof is being critical of the mayor with the following satire:
New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin placed on suicide watch in wake of Hurricane Katrina


NEW ORLEANS “He looks stoned to me.” He looks like a man who can't decide whether to run away or stuff his head in the oven!” Comments like these were heard all over Louisiana as New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin made statements on TV in the midst of still-rising waters in the Big Easy.

“I just don’t know why this Hurricane Katrina thing hit here. I don’t know what to do about those big holes in the levees. Being a mayor of a city at a time like this is hard work. I really can’t blame all those folks who are looting now; they need food and water and I don’t have a clue how to get it to them. I'm scared I just don't know what to do!"

Asked about the Super Dome, Mayor Nagin said, “Look, stuffing tens of thousands of people into a huge building with a fabric roof seemed like a good idea when the hurricane was coming. We knew there would be no sanitation, food, or water available there and that the whole thing could flood, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. Looking back, I guess I should not have been smoking that big bag of weed when that decision was made.”


12 posted on 08/31/2005 11:40:06 AM PDT by george wythe
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The N.O. Mayor says the numbers could be in the thousands.

Mississippi also may have thousands of deaths, too:

Astonishing Exclusive from Mississippi

One report said a city of 20,000 (Mississippi, IIRC) and its residents completely disappeared.

The number of deaths could be incomprehensibly high.
24 posted on 08/31/2005 11:47:16 AM PDT by TomGuy
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This "mayor" is too drunk, stoned or stupid to know his ass from his elbow about what's really the truth about the situation. The Governor is not much better.
30 posted on 08/31/2005 11:50:43 AM PDT by garyhope
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I am not an expert on much of anything, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but.

As I am given to understand, conventional propeller driven boats are at a huge disadvantage in navigating present water conditions in NOLA. I have seen a few air boats being put into use, but far too few.

I would suggest that in the US, every sales show room and manufacturing facility of jet (not engine, but where in lieu of a prop, they use a pump to propel the craft) boats be cleared out and all such craft immediately shipped down to New Orleans. This would include all PWC (personal watercraft) as these small, highly maneuverable one and two man craft can negotiate where larger boats cannot.

Utilizing the jet boats would allow much greater real time resources to be used in response to those in immediate dire need. Be it having manpower to check on those who may be trapped in attics, to deliver water, food, and medicine to those people whom cannot be removed for now.

It is time to think outside the bureaucratic box and get creative for confronting the daunting task of preventing imminent deaths.

In those areas where the water has subsided, follow up with as many ATV's as needed to check and recheck for rescues.


40 posted on 08/31/2005 11:56:29 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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Further evidence of the depressingly low level of basic intelligence let alone competence of Nagin. Along with that pathetic boob of a governor they make a fit set of exhibits in the hall of political incompetence and shame. Neither have a single worthwhile idea about starting disaster relief operations. The Corps of Engineers is moving ahead with a plan for expedient damming of the 27th Street canal levee break. The petroleum companies are going to launch their inspection crews starting today or tomorrow from Port Focaut ( a commercial facility that the oil companies developed themselves as a marshaling point for material and men to support the offshore wells)and the five major rail carriers that serve the Crescent City and its port have conducted fairly detailed surveys of lines south of Memphis and SW from Birmingham for storm damage and recovery planning. Their take is that rail service of a limited nature can be restarted in a matter of a week or so. Requirements for ballast and ties are being pressed forward.

What does the state and city (parish leadership has been a lot better and sound sensible) leadership present. A governor who starts blubbering each time she goes before the cameras, is clearly without a clue, and offers a proclamation of a 'Day of Prayer' as a substantive measure. The adjutant General doesn't even know how many troops he has in state versus deployed to Iraq (156th Brigade is about to return in a matter of a couple weeks)and is vigorously resisting any efforts towards federalization. What is desired is US$ to pay Guardsmen who will stay under full state control. Louisiana hasn't even fully mobilized its forces.

There probably will be 100+ maybe 200 dead in the city but this sort of hysteria by the chief elected official of the city is disgraceful and only fuels panic and demoralization.

It is true that neither Mississippi or Alabama officials have thought beyond recovering stranded citizens and starting to collect the dead (at the end of the day I think it will be found that Mississippi took a far bigger hit than the Pelican State)but they haven't continually made moronic demoralizing statements. White and Nagin are the Stupid Party personified.
41 posted on 08/31/2005 11:56:59 AM PDT by robowombat
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The only upside to this is that the debauchery which characterized this city, especially around Mardi Gras time, may mercifully have ended.


45 posted on 08/31/2005 11:59:50 AM PDT by marshmallow
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I do not have any confidence in one thing that Mayor says. He was forced to order the mandatory evacuation.

God help him because I think he is doing all he can do and obviously he is under a great deal of pressure and stress but I think he is ill-prepared and in over his head. Guiliani he is not.

I would not give out guessed figures on something this important. No doubt there are many dead. It may even get to be thousands but I think it is unwise to throw unconfirmed numbers out to the fragile LA public. Waiting a few days to get a handle on the number of dead will make no difference. Throwing a number out now just gives the media something new to exploit.


46 posted on 08/31/2005 12:00:01 PM PDT by Republican Red (''Van der Sloot" is Dutch for ''Kennedy.")
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Very sad day indeed for New Orleans. Might be time to re-locate. It was probably a mistake to build it below sea level to begin with.


65 posted on 08/31/2005 12:09:14 PM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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Hundreds, maybe thousands, of people have died in New Orleans since Hurricane Katrina slammed into the city, Mayor C. Ray Nagin said

The mayor should break that figure down:

--how many died due to the flood

--how many died due to lawlessness? How many died due to gunshot wounds?

--how many died due to your failure, mayor, to have honest policemen? I saw your policemen taking part in the looting. They should have beenb stopping the looting but instead became looters themselves. How many died, mayor, due to yor failure of sound and firm leadership?

97 posted on 08/31/2005 12:31:33 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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damn...this storm has sure proven to be exponentially worse than I first figured after the winds weakened.


98 posted on 08/31/2005 12:31:37 PM PDT by wardaddy (finally....power and cable)
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100 posted on 08/31/2005 12:32:21 PM PDT by anonymoussierra
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"We know there is a significant number of dead bodies in the water," Nagin said.

He said there are others dead in attics.

Oh my God, that is just too horrible a thought. Those poor souls in the attics; I can't imagine what their last few minutes of life were like...

108 posted on 08/31/2005 12:35:51 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Many Democrats are not weak Americans. But nearly all weak Americans are Democrats.)
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