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Mayor: hundreds, maybe thousands, dead in New Orleans
AP ^ | Aug 31 2005

Posted on 08/31/2005 11:33:28 AM PDT by george wythe

Hundreds, maybe thousands, of people have died in New Orleans since Hurricane Katrina slammed into the city, Mayor C. Ray Nagin said Wednesday.

It will at least two or three months before the city has electricity. Restaurants won't be able to open; there won't be any commerce, he said during an impromptu news conference at the Hyatt Hotel.

"This is the real deal. It's not living conditions," he said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: deathtoll; godhelpthem; hurricanekatrina; katrina; neworleans
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To: marshmallow

"The only upside to this is that the debauchery which characterized this city, especially around Mardi Gras time, may mercifully have ended."

That is one of the dumbest posts I've seen on FR yet.


101 posted on 08/31/2005 12:32:27 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Tall_Texan

Is most of Uptown flooded? How about Tulane? Anyone know?


102 posted on 08/31/2005 12:33:04 PM PDT by foofoopowder
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To: AnAmericanMother
I'm glad my daughter had a chance to listen to the jazzmen

There's more jazz in Winston-Salem, NC than there was in New Orleans this past year.

103 posted on 08/31/2005 12:33:23 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: fortunecookie

I heard that too about the flood insurance. What I don't understand is why. I am a loan officer in Ohio and I can't get you a mortgage if you're in a flood zone, unless you have flood insurance. There's no way that anywhere in New Orleans, which is BELOW SEA LEVEL and ON THE COAST...would NOT be in a flood zone! The only ways that I could see a homeowner not having flood insurance is:

Home is free and clear
Home was purchased many years ago when lender did not require it
Policy was cancelled after loan closed

That doesn't help renters. I don't know if renter's policies cover flood damage to personal goods.

It's a mess, definitely.


104 posted on 08/31/2005 12:33:28 PM PDT by RockinRight (What part of ILLEGAL immigration do they not understand?)
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To: Daus
Some knew, but you have to understand that there is a whole sub-culture than does not read newspapers, and that the TV is for PlayStation2 and/or watching cable TV channels which do not carry news. As amazing as it sounds, there are people who went to bed Sunday night without any knowledge there was a storm coming or had only heard rumor of it. 53 posted on 08/31/2005 3:04:34 PM EDT by Daus

Ditto. You can't assume that the same flow of information reaches everyone. The other factor would be the subculture which simply distrusts the MSM because of all the BS they shovel out regularly. What was being talked about this before the hurricane? The missing girl in Aruba? The media and the government have discredited themselves with their own junk thought.

105 posted on 08/31/2005 12:33:30 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: SlowBoat407

LOL, just a quick thought, sorry.


106 posted on 08/31/2005 12:33:40 PM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: RockinRight

Unfortunately, this isn't like SimCity where you pluck down a few zones and a building pops up, or you can click and drag a sewer sytem. It would take years upon years upon years to build infrastructure, attract commerce, plan neighborhoods, etc.


107 posted on 08/31/2005 12:35:42 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: george wythe
"We know there is a significant number of dead bodies in the water," Nagin said.

He said there are others dead in attics.

Oh my God, that is just too horrible a thought. Those poor souls in the attics; I can't imagine what their last few minutes of life were like...

108 posted on 08/31/2005 12:35:51 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Many Democrats are not weak Americans. But nearly all weak Americans are Democrats.)
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To: RockinRight

...(If)I owned 5 acres worth $200,000 on the current market-if someone says "we have 110 homeowners who have sustained losses that want to divide your land into 110 parcels at $10,000 each...do the math! I'd sell!

Those would be some mighty dinky lots...under 2000 sq ft. per lot and that's before you subtract the area of the land for streets and utility easements.

109 posted on 08/31/2005 12:36:23 PM PDT by elli1
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To: RetiredArmy

It was actually predicted that New Orleans would get hit and wiped out by a storm for precisely the reasons you cite. I read the prophecy and prediction quite a while back.
Granted, it shocked me a little that it came true.


110 posted on 08/31/2005 12:36:29 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: television is just wrong

I was just looking for a new way to say that the city was above sea level when it was founded, and then sank under its own weight into the mud, even as they kept building walls to keep the "rising" water out.

I suppose with thick-enough concrete and much-modernized pumping system they could have a city they would consider safe. Maybe if they instituted a "bead tax"...


111 posted on 08/31/2005 12:36:52 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living affront to Islam since 1959)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Well...considering how fast Las Vegas has developed...I think an organized effort could actually build up PDQ...

but you're right...this ain't SimCity!


112 posted on 08/31/2005 12:37:45 PM PDT by RockinRight (What part of ILLEGAL immigration do they not understand?)
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To: george wythe

USNS Comfort is one of Military Sealift Command's two Hospital Ships and it is heading for New Orleans.
113 posted on 08/31/2005 12:38:18 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: elli1

OK, well cut me some slack...I was just throwing out an example.


114 posted on 08/31/2005 12:38:34 PM PDT by RockinRight (What part of ILLEGAL immigration do they not understand?)
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To: adam_az
I second you. However, there have been so many imbecilic postings either gloating over the flooding of NOLA or making flippant remarks about either NOLA is superfluous and those who reside there are a species of fool because parts of it are below sea level (are the people of much of Holland also fools? A question no one has posed to these vacuous posters.)that it is a difficult choice. I frankly have never been disgusted by the tenor of many posters here until this event.
115 posted on 08/31/2005 12:39:04 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: edcoil
That many people did not listen to the calls to get out before. Wow, seems high.

Some did not get out.

Some did not WANT to get out. Many looters saw their opportunity to break in to jewelry stores and loot diamonds. They were right. It worked. Before we feel too bad for all those "poor people", just remember that some of them stayed to loot and made a fortune looting.

Look for them wearing the shiny new Nikes and diamonds everywehere while they stand in the free food line.

As for the truly downtrodden who could not get out, my condolences and sympathy. But I am astute enough to know there are many who wanted to stay just so they could loot the place.

116 posted on 08/31/2005 12:39:16 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Howlin
And this is just in New Orleans.

Yes, and imagine the hardest hit areas like Biloxi. I fear we are going to hear numbers which will be staggering. I pray not.

117 posted on 08/31/2005 12:39:22 PM PDT by conservativebabe (God Bless Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida)
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To: RockinRight

I thought of that same idea.


118 posted on 08/31/2005 12:40:48 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Republican Red

You're right. He probably is doing all he can, but his job isn't to estimate the dead; it's to serve the living who need to know someone's in charge, not how many didn't make it. That can be focussed on after the survivors' situation is stabilized.


119 posted on 08/31/2005 12:41:09 PM PDT by skr
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