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Mayor: hundreds, maybe thousands, dead in New Orleans
AP ^ | Aug 31 2005

Posted on 08/31/2005 11:33:28 AM PDT by george wythe

Hundreds, maybe thousands, of people have died in New Orleans since Hurricane Katrina slammed into the city, Mayor C. Ray Nagin said Wednesday.

It will at least two or three months before the city has electricity. Restaurants won't be able to open; there won't be any commerce, he said during an impromptu news conference at the Hyatt Hotel.

"This is the real deal. It's not living conditions," he said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: deathtoll; godhelpthem; hurricanekatrina; katrina; neworleans
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To: robowombat
Watch nagin in action or just trying to get through a sentence. My poodle would be a more credible source. I wouldn't believe him if he said the sun set in the west.

Uh huh. Stipulating that, why should I believe your numbers? Nagin may be a just another incompetent politician, but I'd hazard a guess that he has more inside information than you do.

121 posted on 08/31/2005 12:41:49 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: AD from SpringBay
And it could be a good idea except for the fact that the land upstream is probably already owned by someone.

Now that the skids of eminent domain have been sufficiently greased by the Supreme Court, this shouldn't be a problem at all.

122 posted on 08/31/2005 12:41:50 PM PDT by Ol' Sox
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To: george wythe
"Please join me in prayers for your great nation of United States of America. We are with you." [Poland]

"Please pray with me for United States of America-hurricane"

New Orleans Prayer Thread

Prayers for Romulus, Askel 5, and others from New Orleans and Louisiana

Prayers for the Victims of Hurricane Katrina

Catholic Caucus: Virgin of Prompt Succor - Hurricanes and Dangers

Hurricane Prayer Thread

How about a Prayer for the Kat Hurricane folks Drstevej former freeper

123 posted on 08/31/2005 12:42:04 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: hispanarepublicana

Read your profile page. God bless you and your family, you are the backbone of this country.


124 posted on 08/31/2005 12:42:26 PM PDT by wordsofearnest (Ain't the whistle that pulls the train.)
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To: adam_az
That is one of the dumbest posts I've seen on FR yet.

No kidding.  What is wrong with some people?

125 posted on 08/31/2005 12:43:00 PM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: tallhappy
RIP. People who perished and New Orleans, a great American city.

Just.... Let.... Gooooooo......

126 posted on 08/31/2005 12:43:17 PM PDT by johnb838 (Pray for Gods Grace to be manifest on the Gulf Coast especially in New Orleans.)
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To: Kurt_D

You also have folks (like around here) who've lived through near miss after near miss after near miss.

Then the few storms that did blow over were lightweight 2's or 3's....

Honestly, I can see where lots of folks would be thinking "Nah, it won't be that bad, it'll be just like last time."


127 posted on 08/31/2005 12:44:03 PM PDT by najida (I run with scissors and I don't play well with others.)
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To: HIDEK6

Yeah, we've got plenty of jazz around here too (some of it is sitting on my piano) but she may never have a chance to get to Preservation Hall again . . .


128 posted on 08/31/2005 12:44:49 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: superiorslots
Maybe the big ocean trip from the old continent has something to do with it?? :)

Well, allegedly, during the Middle Passage the most upsetting moment for the enslaved was losing sight of land and seeing only water in every direction. English sailors accustomed to spending as long as six months at sea without disembarking found their fear amusing.

Africans were not in the habit of going very far off the coast under any circumstances.

129 posted on 08/31/2005 12:45:06 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: george wythe
“He looks stoned to me.”

He did look stoned on monday.

130 posted on 08/31/2005 12:45:45 PM PDT by bad company (what the hell happened to the 11th commandment?)
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To: tallhappy

The trip through rual Mississippi to NO was terrible. Hundreds of miles of nothing. Run down shacks, towns, farms, fields. Nothing worth stopping and seeing.


131 posted on 08/31/2005 12:46:19 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (The Imperial Federal Government is your worst enemy! Don't give in to them!)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
Look for them wearing the shiny new Nikes and diamonds everywehere while they stand in the free food line.

Ain't it the truth. What a life.

132 posted on 08/31/2005 12:46:25 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: TheForceOfOne

Those ships can dock next to the Superdome with no trouble.


133 posted on 08/31/2005 12:47:47 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (The Imperial Federal Government is your worst enemy! Don't give in to them!)
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To: foofoopowder
Is most of Uptown flooded?

Uptown is one of the few areas which has largely remained dry. From what I've gathered from reading the Times-Picayune web forums, the Uptown area south of St. Charles has avoided flooding. There were reports of 3-4 feet of water in the area of Napoleon and Claiborne, though.

I just took a look, and found one poster reporting no flooding around Tulane. Updates concerning Tulane are being posted at www.tulanegreenwave.com..

134 posted on 08/31/2005 12:48:37 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: Rutles4Ever

I have no doubt that the city will be rebuilt. I also have no doubt that many will try to recapture the aura of antediluvian New Orleans.

I also have no doubt that the flood will become part of the city's history and culture, and in coming years will no doubt be woven into its story. We're far too close to it right now to understand in full how it will play out. Perhaps in a hundred years we'll hear tourguides pointing out an area and saying, "this was under 20 feet of water before we knew how to build reactive flood walls."

One can dream, can't one?


135 posted on 08/31/2005 12:48:52 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living affront to Islam since 1959)
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To: COBOL2Java
Those poor souls in the attics; I can't imagine what their last few minutes of life were like...

This kind of thing apparently happened - but I don't get it.

The first thing I would do if I were up to my waist in water in an attic would be to swim down to a window and kick it out.

I guess it's tough to think clearly when it's completely dark and the water is rising around you.

136 posted on 08/31/2005 12:50:21 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: george wythe

The poster above is right though -- Galveston was THE PORT west of NO before the storm of 1900, after that the Houston Ship Channel was dredged (I bet some of the mud was used to raise the island) and Galveston never regained its former prominence. It's a party island now... that's more or less all, and as every one knows, the beach ain't that nice, but they've done as well as they could with it. Very poor population, not altogether dissimilar to what we see in NO.


137 posted on 08/31/2005 12:50:45 PM PDT by johnb838 (Pray for Gods Grace to be manifest on the Gulf Coast especially in New Orleans.)
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To: george wythe
Man, if they could manage disaster relief like they can manage the news, things would be wonderful now. As for spoon-feeding, try some math on St. Bernard Parish, which was reported today as completely under water, many feet above the roof level:

A x B x 66,631 = Casualties in the Parish, where

A = per cent not evacuating

B = per cent that can't swim very well after 24 hours

66,631 = Population of Parish in 1990 Census

138 posted on 08/31/2005 12:51:00 PM PDT by Our_Man_In_Gough_Island
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
It was actually predicted that New Orleans would get hit and wiped out by a storm for precisely the reasons you cite. I read the prophecy and prediction quite a while back.

Good grief. New Orleans is in a hurricane-prone area. It was bound to get hit eventually. There is no reason to believe that this was divine vengeance.

139 posted on 08/31/2005 12:51:18 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: robowombat
I second you. However, there have been so many imbecilic postings either gloating over the flooding of NOLA or making flippant remarks about either NOLA is superfluous and those who reside there are a species of fool because parts of it are below sea level (are the people of much of Holland also fools? A question no one has posed to these vacuous posters.)that it is a difficult choice. I frankly have never been disgusted by the tenor of many posters here until this event.

I've been wanting to say something along those lines for a while now, just didn't know how to say it.

bears repeating: I frankly have never been disgusted by the tenor of many posters here until this event

I've been there many times, stayed in the Quarter and had a great time, with many great memories. It was (is) an intrigueing city. The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. The natives, the tourists, the shops, the architecture, and the history...

Our last trip down there two years ago we also rented a car and drove to Pass Christan and the Gulf coast for the day. My girlfriend likes this little shop with all sorts of girly nick knacks, survived Camile, I suspect it gone now. And the Marina down the road, right before Biloxi where we had lunch on a beautiful day on their large deck and I called my friend back home while sucking down briney oysters fresh from the Gulf and cold beers, while he was back home braving snow storms.... also gone no doubt...

Memories and Good Times....

140 posted on 08/31/2005 12:51:25 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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