Posted on 08/30/2005 11:33:27 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day
Rush transcript of NPR's Neil Conan, speaking by phone with Cindy Sheehan:
NC: Very nice of you to be with us today.
CS: [cheerfully] Oh, thank youuu!
NC: I know that you were, uh, out in California last week because your mother was ill. Hows she doing?
CS: Um, shes doing better. Theyre trying to keep her from having another stroke. And if she doesnt have another stroke, she should be able to recover.
NC: Thats good news. Now, tell us, a little bit about your son, Casey.
CS: My son Casey was an amazing human being. He was gentle, loving, peaceful, sweet. He always just wanted to help people. He was an Eagle Scout and an altar boy for ten years. He had been in college for three years before he was recruited. He was just, uh, an almost perfect son and a really good big brother to his two sisters and his other brother.
NC: Why did he decide to join the Army?
CS: Well, he got lied to by his recruiter. His recruiter made him five promises that he broke all the promises to Casey. Casey was a very trusting and trustworthy person. So, he felt everyone else was trustworthy. Especially somebody who represents the government.
NC: Mmm hmmm. But, so, did he say afterwards, I was duped?
CS: Um, he, he, when wed ask him about all these things that your recruiter promised you, hes just say, Well, Mom, you know, its the Army. They didnt tell us they didnt have to fulfill their promises. We were the only ones who had to fulfill our promises.
NC: Mmm hmm. And did he write you letters about what he was doing in Iraq?
CS: Well, he was only there five days before he was killed. He started one letter that he never finished, and we got it back with his things.
NC: What did it say?
CS: Um well, Ill give you the general thing, but it was kind of personal. Yknow, he said that, um it should be a pretty smooth year, that they were looking forward to a smooth year. And he was killed four days later. And he said that he wished he could be home for his sisters graduation. And some other personal things.
NC: Um, and of course, I dont want to get too personal, but I wonder: When he was deciding to join the Army, did you try to talk him out of it?
CS: We didnt have a chance because he joined before he talked to us.
NC: Before he talked. So, he made a choice of his own.
CS: [pause] Right.
NC: Um, now, you were
CS: [not so cheerfully] But does that have to do with him being sent to a war thats illegal and immoral to kill people and get killed for, um, a country that was no threat or harm to the United States of America?
NC: Uhhh no. But, he wasnt drafted. He made a choice of free will.
CS: Yeah, and if we give our children to the government to serve their country, we should make sure that theyre only used if its absolutely necessary to defend the United States of America.
NC: I wonder, now, you got a chance to meet with President Bush with a group of other families for a brief time. What happened in that meeting?
CS: Ummm Ive talked about this a lot. Do we have to talk about this? Do you have any questions about whats going on right now or what were gonna do in the future?
NC: Im just curious; Ive not heard your answer to this.
CS: Um, excuse me?
NC: Ive not heard your answer, if you wouldnt mind.
CS: [someone speaking in background] I have two minutes.
NC: [amazed] You have two minutes.
CS: I have two minutes so he wasGeorge Bush acted like we were at a tea party, he was rude to us, and we felt worse than we did after we met with him.
NC: Mm hmm. Um, I didnt realize you just had two minutes. We thought we had more time with you today, but, uh I did want to ask. I know youre planning to, when President Bush comes back to Washington, youre planning to continue the protest here in Washington D.C.
CS: Yeah, were taking the bus tour to Washington D.C. and were all meeting there on September 24 for the big United for Peace and Justice um, war protest.
NC: And you did get a chance to meet with some of his senior advisors a couple of weeks ago. Did you get a chancedid they listen to you, or did they talk to you?
CS: He-hello?
NC: Did they listen to you? Or did they talk to you?
CS: Hello?
NC: Yes. Hi?
CS: [clear as a bell] I didnt hear your question, Im sorry. We have a really bad connection.
NC: I apologize for that. Its the cell
CS: Thats not your fault. Im in the middle of Crawford, so, you know, its very spotty cell phone service out here.
NC: I understand. I was asking about your meeting with some of the Presidents chief advisors, including the National Security Advisor. In that meeting, did they, did they listen to you?
CS: Um, they listened to me and they talked to me. They tried to tell me things that I knew werent true, and so finally I said, Just because Im a grieving mother doesnt mean that I am stupid. And I said, I dont believe you guys are stupid either. So we ended the meeting and they said they would pass on my concerns to the president, and then they left.
NC: So you felt like you were being dismissed.
CS: I felt like I was being patronized.
NC: Patronized.
CS: And I felt that they thought that they were gonna be able to intimidate me into leaving, and, or impress me by the high level of officials that they sent.
NC: What would you say to President Bush if you had another chance to meet him?
CS: Id say, what was the noble cause he sent my son to die for? And, why are soldiers still fighting over there when we know this war is based on lies, and to tell him to quit using my sons name to justify the continued killing.
NC: As you know, there are parents of other men and women who died in Iraq who say youre using their sons and daughters names in your cause.
CS: To stop the killing? You know, just because my sons killed, why should I want any other children to be killed? Why would I want any other families to be going through this and this seems to be the Presidents reason for continuing the war because hes killed so many American soldiers already he has to kill more. And I believe thats the most insane and the most immoral reason for continuing the war.
NC: I understand what youre saying, but, they say you dont speak for them.
CS: I never said I spoke for them. I never said I spoke for 100% of the military families. I never claimed to. I know they have their opinions and I believe thats their right to their opinions.
NC: Fair enough. Do you stYouve come out A lot of statements have been attributed to you as this Camp Casey has grown, as this movement has grown, and uh
CS: I gotta, I have to go now. Thank youuuu. [click]
NC: [dumbfounded] Cindy Sheehan. Leaving us there in Crawford, Texas. We apologize for that. We had arranged with people there to speak with Cindy Sheehan for the remainder of this segment and take some phone calls as well. Uh, evidently, plans changed at the last minute and we apologize for that.
"My bet is that Cindy is not a very long-time resident of Vacaville, though I really don't know."
I believe there is a freeper who lives in Vacaville. She said Cindy is new to the area. She was originally from L.A.
If I remember correctly, the freeper also said that Casey talked others in the area into joining the military.
lol Accepted, her feeling weren't hurt too bad.
Sheesh! If I was her I'd fire those make up people. Course, they don't have much to work with.
I understand her other son wrote her a letter and asked her to come home because they needed her and she blew him off. I guess her new liberal friends are more fun and important to her than her other children. I fear she is going to wind up growing old alone.
Don't the Boy Scout's plegse love and service to God and Country?
I guess she thought he had his fingers crossed.
If they supported her position she would be flaunting them...so guess what I surmise?
Right! They don't support her position.
So, why did he re-enlist? And volunteer for Iraq duty? And volunteer to go on a dangerous patrol?
"I fear she is going to wind up growing old alone."
She'll probably be in a rubber room wearing one of those nice jackets with the wraparound sleeves.
There is so much in there that the Left has problems with.
Yes, he was a soldier. And by all accounts, despite his mother's action, he acquitted himself well. That's the saddest part of all of this. Despite her hatred for Bush and the war, she could at least give him the honor he deserves. I have YET to hear her speak well of her son AS A SOLDIER....yet, that is what he re-enlisted to be.
Me, too! I noticed in spite of all the tradgedy going on due to Katrina, the MSM still managed to get in some shots and a clip of the Ditch Witch today. And FoxNews was running stories about her on their news ticker at the bottom of the screen. No mention of the huge support the troops rally in Crawford last Sat. though.
I suppose the contract her son signed wasn't read by her son or her?
I find that hard to believe.
NPR should understand. The Left has created a STAR! (Monster). Cindy is above all criticism. She has St. Theresa status now.
One can only hope.
*slap* Thanks, I needed that! ;^)
Ah, just as I suspected! That Cindy is sure a piece of work. I listened to the interview after I read the transcript. Wow. She really is a shame to her son, God rest him.
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