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Hackett Deserves Court Martial
UCMJ ^ | 8/6/05

Posted on 08/06/2005 9:33:52 AM PDT by pabianice

Gov. Taft and State GOP Woes, Not Iraq, Made Ohio a Tight Race

by John Gizzi

Human Events Online

To believe the national media, the election for the open U.S. House seat in Ohio's 2nd District on Tuesday was nearly won by a Democrat because of mounting opposition to the U.S. presence in Iraq. Republican Jean Schmidt, former state legislator, barely clung to the most Republican congressional district in the Buckeye State by a margin of 4,000 votes, or 52% to 48%, over Democrat and Marine reserve officer Paul Hackett. In a race that drew national attention because of Hackett's opposition to the Bush policies in Iraq (and reference to the President as an "S.O.B."), the Democratic nominee handily carried four counties that only last year had gone for Bush (Pike, Scioto, Adams, and Brown)...

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Uniform Code of Military Justice

Article 888.88: Contempt Toward Officials

"Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: courtmartial; hackett; oifveterans; ucmj
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To: David
Guess we ought to modify the First Amendment to eliminate the right of free speech for former military officers. Right?

No, "former" military officers can say what they like. If you are a current commissioned officer then you are under the UCMJ. He's currently commissioned.

21 posted on 08/06/2005 10:12:40 AM PDT by ChuckHam
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To: pabianice

And .. ignoring this guy is the same thing the military did with John Kerry. It allowed Kerry to start an anti-war movement WHICH CAUSED THE DEATHS OF 48,000 SOLDIERS.

Is our military going to be so stupid this time.

As a former military person - what can you do to bring this to light.


22 posted on 08/06/2005 10:16:03 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: David

Hackett isn't a former military officer.


23 posted on 08/06/2005 10:16:25 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: ncountylee
It seems that a member of a reserve component must be on active duty or training to be subject to court-martial. See Article 2 of the UCMJ.
24 posted on 08/06/2005 10:19:50 AM PDT by Christopher Lincoln
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To: ChuckHam

"No, "former" military officers can say what they like."

Not if you're drawing a pension.


25 posted on 08/06/2005 10:21:24 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: pabianice

Hackett publicly calls the President an SOB, and nobody cares. Limbaugh (correctly) calls Hackett a "staff puke", and the lefties soil themselves.


26 posted on 08/06/2005 10:21:30 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

Obviously a couple of people cared, I think he lost the election LOL! The Dems platform of hate and lies strikes again.


27 posted on 08/06/2005 10:23:11 AM PDT by JNL
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To: pabianice

Hackett worked a desk job and built himself up as a vet. Limbaugh was on to him last week as a liar and "staff puke", and now the loser is selling out his Commander in Chief to get some liberal gig or book deal.


28 posted on 08/06/2005 10:26:57 AM PDT by cambridge
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To: A.A. Cunningham

I recall reading about these Marines. I know a couple of former military people who were completely frustrated during what one calls "the dark days of Clinton" when they couldn't say anything about him, being military. Hackett appears to be subject to it still. As the saying goes, "them's the rules."


29 posted on 08/06/2005 10:29:54 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (fiat voluntas Tua)
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To: JNL
Okay, maybe I didn't explain it well (I do that a lot).

What Hackett did is a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. It's not about whose the POTUS, it's about respect for the Commander In Chief, whomever it is - even Clinton.

And what I was trying to get at is that this guy should not be given a pass, he's an Officer in the USMC first and foremost. He can be a politician or a dishwasher, but that is all secondary. And there is NO 1st Amendment right to freedom of speech in the military - period.

30 posted on 08/06/2005 10:32:30 AM PDT by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: cambridge

Hacketts book title:

My Story

Paper cuts, Purple Hearts, and Phony Patriotism

by

General Paul Hackett (rank coutesy of democratic literary
privilege)


31 posted on 08/06/2005 10:33:48 AM PDT by JNL
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To: Condor51

Yes I agree with that point, I think he got around it by always saying he respected the office, not the man. sneaky


32 posted on 08/06/2005 10:35:38 AM PDT by JNL
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To: ncountylee
Does he have to be active duty?

He has to be on active duty or under orders for training. In his civilian life he can go about his affairs unimpeded.

33 posted on 08/06/2005 10:47:59 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Condor51

This is a very old and tired issue around here. While not in uniform on active duty or duty for training he can say what he wants and the UCMJ has no jurisdiction.


34 posted on 08/06/2005 10:49:31 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: pabianice

Hackett Deserves Court Martial.

Why? He's a Democrat. Selling out America comes natural to to them.


35 posted on 08/06/2005 10:49:59 AM PDT by Pittsburg Phil
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To: JNL
Well, I didn't state he should be court martialed, and pretty much for the same reason you specify. I was replying to someone who didn't know what Huckster said that was disrespectful.

Huckster did not behave with honor, using the president in his commercials without mention of the fact that he was a Democrat opposed to the war. Schmidt, not a fiery candidate to begin with, ran no negative ads exposing Huckster for the fraud that he was, a high-taxing ("I wouldn't mind paying higher taxes"), pro-abortion, antiwar Democrat.

For Huckster to imply he supported the war on terror, and then address the core by calling the commander of that war a sunnuvabich did dishonor to his uniform. The only veterans he could get to appear in public with him was that old hack Cleland, no hero himself. Schmidt got the public backing of veterans and the Cincinnati FOP (Huckster filed a frivolous civil rights lawsuit against police officers for clients trying to get rich quick, cases later dismissed in court for lack of evidence - and in a CIVIL case, where evidentiary proof is vert lose!!!).

If Schmidt had been as ruthless a campaigner as Huckster, she would have won in a landslide, since she would have negatived Huckster into the glaring light of truth.

Oh well, as we know, Democrats can't run as Democrats...they lose. Heck, they may lose even when they run as stealth Democrats.

36 posted on 08/06/2005 10:57:06 AM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: David

Maybe you've never served in the military so your ignorance is justified.

When a person VOLUNTEERS for military service, they agree to obey the rules and regulations inherent in such service. One of the standards all military personnel are judged by is the Uniform Code of Military Justice or UCMJ. It DOES limit your right to free speech for the sake of discipline and good order. Popping your mouth off just because you don't agree with superiors would never work in a professional combat corp.

The officer in question here is not a former officer. He is a commissioned officer in the Reserves. Reserve members are subject to the UCMJ until retirement or resignation of commission. So, his comments are subject to the UCMJ.

Serve him up..............................


SGT C.
Al Asad, Iraq
Fifteen years of service and still going.


37 posted on 08/06/2005 11:03:41 AM PDT by veeceeque (Proudly fighting for the greatest nation on Earth! God Bless the USA.)
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To: JRios1968

Paul Hackett is a disgrace to the US Armed Forces."

And a disgrace to the United States of America.


38 posted on 08/06/2005 11:03:56 AM PDT by philetus (What goes around comes around)
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To: JRios1968

As a commissioned officer in the U.S. military, can you bring charges against Hackett?


39 posted on 08/06/2005 11:05:48 AM PDT by philetus (What goes around comes around)
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To: cambridge
Hackett worked a desk job and built himself up as a vet. Limbaugh was on to him last week as a liar and "staff puke"

So? He was serving in war. He IS a war vet. We need REMFs just as must as we need point soldiers. Everybody has a job to do in order to win the war, and some of those jobs are at desks.

40 posted on 08/06/2005 11:26:15 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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