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Roberts'Gay Bias Case Role Debated(some on FR being played like a fiddle by the LA Times)
LA Times ^ | 8/05/04 | Maura reynolds

Posted on 08/05/2005 9:26:55 AM PDT by Dane

Roberts did not mention his work on the case in responding to a Senate Judiciary Committee questionnaire that asked for examples of his pro bono work. Roberts' involvement was first reported Wednesday by the Los Angeles Times.

Jean Dubofsky, the lead lawyer for gay rights activists challenging the Colorado initiative, told The Times that Roberts gave her "absolutely crucial" advice on how to argue the case before the Supreme Court.

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said Roberts spent less than 10 hours on the case, compared with more than 200 hours he spent on two pro bono cases on which he was the lead counsel

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: allianceforjustice; anthonykennedy; bush; coulter; dailykos; fredthompson; johnroberts; liberal; marklevin; novak; romervevans; rush; scalia; scotus; souter
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To: Dane
And your explanation for the Slimes' and WashPost's glowing, positive articles about Souter in 1990? I guess they were only pretending, like in this article where Souter's old girlfriend (registered Democrat) gives her thoughts on him:

...Her recollections of the kind of man he was when she knew him well ought to reassure women and men who are concerned about how he will evaluate the great privacy issues of our time, such as abortion rights... "Having never married, I know everyone is wondering does he have the empathy to understand women's issues, and I think he would. It's not as though he's lived in a cave for the last 25 years. He has many friends and I'm sure many women friends and I'm sure he's very aware of the impact of abortion on women's lives and men's lives, as well. He's very well-thought-of by his friends, both men and women."

-- The Washington Post, July 27, 1990. "Former Souter Girlfriend Says He's Fair-Minded", by Judy Mann

Surely Souter's obviously a staunch hardcore constitutionalist who's been misrepresented as a moderate/liberal by the mean old media.

81 posted on 08/05/2005 10:59:35 AM PDT by Sloth (History's greatest monsters: Hitler, Stalin, Mao & Durbin)
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To: Sloth
And your explanation for the Slimes' and WashPost's glowing, positive articles about Souter in 1990? I guess they were only pretending, like in this article where Souter's old girlfriend (registered Democrat) gives her thoughts on him:

And the glowing articles from the Wash Compost or NYT in 2005? They are far and few between.

I guess you missed the 800 post thread where the NYT is going after Roberts kids.

82 posted on 08/05/2005 11:03:04 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Cincinna

The NY Times going after Roberts kids is totally indefensible and inexcusable.

But them they aren't called the New York Slimes for nothing. Hopefully continuing vicious tactics like this will loose them more and more readers. Even their book review su#$$.

Roberts may not be a gay activist, but his views on Consitutional Protection for sodomists is hardly a case of "strict interpretation". I don't care what somebody does in the privacy of their home, as long as its consentual, but I don't want some perverts shoving their aberrant behavior in my face, calling it "normal", espousing it in the scholl systems, and demanding state recognition for it - all of which follows as a result of Roberts' unfortunate pro bono actions.


83 posted on 08/05/2005 11:04:46 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: CyberAnt

oops, didn't know. Posted from the corner. I'll have mod pull it.


84 posted on 08/05/2005 11:07:29 AM PDT by hipaatwo (When you're in trouble you want all your friends around you...preferably armed!)
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To: ZULU
The NY Times going after Roberts kids is totally indefensible and inexcusable.

You Zulu have been on FR for almost 5 years.

One would think you could discern the difference between the liberal medias true thoughts(NYT going after Robert's kids) and their attempts to divide and conquer(ala the LA Times article).

85 posted on 08/05/2005 11:08:28 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Jim_Curtis
For those who make the argument that he was just being a good lawyer doing his job. If he had volunteered to help out a pro-abortion group in a similar circumstance, would that have been okay too?

John Roberts did not volunteer for this case. He was the lead appellate attorney in a law firm with about 1000 lawyers. It was his job to help those 1000 lawyers with their appellate cases and this was only one of them. As an employee of a law firm he could not pick and chose which lawyers he could help nor the cases, he was bound to help them all - REGARDLESS of his personal ideology on those cases.

86 posted on 08/05/2005 11:20:59 AM PDT by msnimje
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To: msnimje
John Roberts did not volunteer for this case.

Source?

87 posted on 08/05/2005 11:23:51 AM PDT by k2blader (Hic sunt dracones..)
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To: Dane
One would think you could discern the difference between the liberal medias true thoughts(NYT going after Robert's kids) and their attempts to divide and conquer(ala the LA Times article).

What makes you think they aren't going after his kids to make it appear like they are putting pressure on him?

Are you just sympathetic to the gays' agenda or would you have been okay with Roberts volunteering his time to help out pro-abortion activists as well?

88 posted on 08/05/2005 11:29:27 AM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: Dane

Dane I hope you are right and my concerns are misplaced.


89 posted on 08/05/2005 11:33:11 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Soul Seeker
"Now if the credible posters"

So now we must push Ann Coulter and Mark Levin to the lunny wacho fringe if we are to be good Republican huh?

Keep drinking the kool-aid.

Now one must believe that the homosexual life style or anal sex, is a just a normal healthy life style choice and that homosexual sex is the moral equivalent of heterosexual sex in order to be good Republicans. Now we must support the lawyers and laws that normalized deviant sex and is seeking to normalize deviant sex with children to be good Republicans huh? LOL and I'd bet yall wonder why conservatives are fleeing the GOPO as fast as they can.

90 posted on 08/05/2005 11:51:42 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Dane

However, it will be interesting to see the response of some of the really rabid whackos like the television evangelists.


91 posted on 08/05/2005 11:54:16 AM PDT by punster
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To: msnimje
Rush just said it is the Left's intent to use this case to create a Right Ring backlash

Thats because ElRushbo lurks my posts.

92 posted on 08/05/2005 11:56:24 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: hipaatwo
besides, spreading the rumor that he's gay wouldn't piss off anyone I respect, which makes the rumor that much more entertaining.

We had a poster doing that here last night. Disgusting.

93 posted on 08/05/2005 11:59:35 AM PDT by alnick
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To: hobbes1
Thats because ElRushbo lurks my posts

How very smart of him!

94 posted on 08/05/2005 12:01:40 PM PDT by msnimje
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
It only means that Bush lied to us and nothing more.

No, it means you THINK or IMAGINE or CLAIM Bush lied.

95 posted on 08/05/2005 12:01:43 PM PDT by alnick
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To: msnimje

"John Roberts did not volunteer for this case. He was the lead appellate attorney in a law firm with about 1000 lawyers. It was his job to help those 1000 lawyers with their appellate cases and this was only one of them. As an employee of a law firm he could not pick and chose which lawyers he could help nor the cases, he was bound to help them all - REGARDLESS of his personal ideology on those cases."

I AGREE.
Judge Roberts was NOT the lead attorney on this case. He did 2000 hours of pro bono work in his carrer, as is required and assigned in major law firmsbut this case took but a few hours of his (non-billable) time.


96 posted on 08/05/2005 12:05:50 PM PDT by Cincinna (BEWARE HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: Dane
What kind of a conservative would volunteer his time and expertise to a homosexual rights advocacy group? What kind of a conservative would volunteer his time and expertise to a pro-abortion advocacy rights group? What kind of a conservative would volunteer his time and expertise to a gun control advocacy group.

There are certain bed rock causes that define conservatism, homosexual advocacy is not one of them, homosexual advocacy is a core liberal cause, anyone that is a homosexual advocate is a liberal.

97 posted on 08/05/2005 12:11:56 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: ZULU
Roberts may not be a gay activist, but his views on Consitutional Protection for sodomists is hardly a case of "strict interpretation".

YOU HAVEN'T THE FOGGIEST CLUE WHAT HIS VIEWS ON THAT TOPIC ARE! And yes, I'm yelling.

It's posts like yours referenced above that expose you of posting with an agenda. No serious person is going to claim to glean Roberts' view on "Consitutional Protection for sodomists" from the fact that he spent a few hours coaching another attorney on arguing a case before the SC.

98 posted on 08/05/2005 12:11:57 PM PDT by alnick
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To: k2blader
Source?

1) Powerline Blog (Lawyers all)"Nor am I concerned if, as the Los Angeles Times reports, Roberts helped lawyers in his firm who were arguing before the Supreme Court, in a pro bono representation, that the Constitution protects people from discrimination because of their sexual orientation. Roberts was the lead attorney in his firm's appellate practice. I consider it natural that he would assist his colleagues in a matter like this. The legal position Roberts was helping his firm (and other attorneys involved in the case) advance regarding what the Constitution does and doesn't protect was wrong, I believe, as a matter of law. However, it was not immoral."
2) Senator Fred Thompson on Rush's show today.
3) http://www.supremecourtwatch.org/roberts.aspx This website is full of left wing hatred of the Conservative history of Judge Roberts - check it out.

99 posted on 08/05/2005 12:13:42 PM PDT by msnimje
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To: msnimje

Do you feel like you're hitting your head against a brick wall? LOL.


100 posted on 08/05/2005 12:13:52 PM PDT by alnick
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