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Is Living Together Before Marriage Totally Accptable? ...Freeper Insight Needed
7.31.05 | mlmr

Posted on 07/31/2005 3:19:52 PM PDT by mlmr

So I have been trying to rent an apartment in my home...and all I have answering the ads are boyfriends and girlfriends. No matter what social status, no matter what income level, I am seeing unmarried twenty, thirty and forty year old couples who want to live together. If I question them, they don't even understand why I am asking.

These are Christians and Jews. I was so surprised to find that it would be so difficult to find a young married couple.

Tell me Dear Freeper...am I totally out of the ballgame to expect to find a young married couple? Am I expecting something that just isn't in our culture anymore?


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To: Zuriel

I disagree with you. Love does not conquer all. People who think that way usually end up in divorce court.


181 posted on 07/31/2005 4:45:38 PM PDT by Hildy ("You miss 100% of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky)
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To: wimpycat

It did, in that she was afraid that we would get married, and I wouldn't be able to handle living with her episodes all the time while she tries to work it all out, and I would leave her. Neither of us ever want to get a divorce, we want to be married once and stay married. When we got married, that was it for us. So partly the cohabitation trial was also reassurement for her.

BPD isn't easy, but if you know what you're dealing with, it's okay. If you don't know what's going on though, it'll destroy you in short time. The fact that she knows she has a problem is half the battle, so I have hope..


182 posted on 07/31/2005 4:45:39 PM PDT by DefiantZERO
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To: mlmr

And to you and your family as well.


183 posted on 07/31/2005 4:46:40 PM PDT by DefiantZERO
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To: bvw

Roger that.

Nympho's are wackier than Sh** house Rats.


184 posted on 07/31/2005 4:47:50 PM PDT by beaver fever
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To: Zuriel
Married couples, IN LOVE, are the best of the 'red hot lovers', if my marriage is an example.

Married sex is definitely better than single sex, I agree.

185 posted on 07/31/2005 4:48:38 PM PDT by wimpycat (Hyperbole is the opiate of the activist wacko.)
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To: cyborg
Why wouldn't a woman want to have children?

Don't make me turn this thread around ;~D

We don't think we want to.... but that's just us. We married pretty late and I no longer think babies look like all that much fun, and children are fun visitors, but where would I keep them if they stayed here :~D LOL

186 posted on 07/31/2005 4:48:41 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Help us support our troops! - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Zuriel

I don't agree with you on everything you said, but I will agree that the stereotype of married love being dull and boring is a load of crap.


187 posted on 07/31/2005 4:48:45 PM PDT by DefiantZERO
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To: wimpycat

Aye, nothing beats married sex. When you know a person inside out, and they bring out the strongest feelings in you, there's no such thing as bad sex.


188 posted on 07/31/2005 4:50:20 PM PDT by DefiantZERO
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To: Zuriel
I think the 'drive it first' mentality is lame excuse for not wanting to be in love first, then marriage and sex.

Nobody's talking about casually shacking up for sex. If I'm going to be living with someone it's because I think I'm in love with them.

If I'm doing that before marriage it's because I want to make sure I'm in love with them, and not with an ideal or a person I only partially know because I've only known her in just a few of the situations which life offers.

189 posted on 07/31/2005 4:50:24 PM PDT by SpringheelJack
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To: cyborg
Well, if it's religious thing with you, that's your prerogative. But there are many women who realize they simply wouldn't make a good parent. I don't think just being fruitful qualifies someone to be a good parent. And there are plenty of people with children who had no business being a parent. Or don't you watch the news?
190 posted on 07/31/2005 4:51:25 PM PDT by unbalanced but fair
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To: Hildy

**I disagree with you. Love does not conquer all. People who think that way usually end up in divorce court.**

If your selling your advice for 2 cents, you're definitely charging too much. :)


191 posted on 07/31/2005 4:52:16 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: unbalanced but fair

Too true, especially today..


192 posted on 07/31/2005 4:53:40 PM PDT by DefiantZERO
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To: mlmr
It's called modernism...the scriptures warned us 'bout this...the new age thinking...they think they're little gods their selves...so whatever feels good/right just do it...totally ignoring the DIVINE LAWS OF OUR HEAVENLY FATHER...because of there sowing; reaping is a comin' to'em all.

Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

193 posted on 07/31/2005 4:59:44 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: DefiantZERO
Sheesh, a judgemental topic if I ever saw one. (And trust me people, God isn't judging through your mouth, YOU are!)

I underwent a 3-month trial period living with my then-fiancee in an apartment, because we both wanted to make sure we were doing the right thing by getting married, and that we would coexist well under the same roof. The experiment was a success, and we took that final step. It had nothing to do with just having a place to screw all the time, it was about being responsible and making sure we were both ready for the final committment, or if we should just stay dating for a while.

I guess that makes us mortal sinners. *shrug* Whatever..

My wife and I moved in approximately 5 months before we got married -- we were already engaged.

We would spend Sundays just checking out open houses -- we intended to buy a house after getting married. But there was literally nothing we could afford that was acceptable. One house we looked at, for instance, was ok, except that the second floor was only four feet tall (like that Geico commercial). Another had no bathroom upstairs, one had a ladder, not a staircase, going upstairs. And this was in 2002, and all the houses cost over half a million bucks. It was Greenwich, CT. One house had the only bathroom off the dining room. Must have been great at a dinner party.

Anyway, we did see a house we liked, and while it was close to the highway, it was barely in our price range, and it gave us reassurance that there'd be something out there. Every house we looked at we compared to this particular house, which while it had some flaws, we could transform it into something nice (it was occupied by a single dad and the three teenage sons). Anyway, about two months later, this house reappeared on the market: the original buyer's mortgage fell through. I had set up various auto email filters to email me when new houses were listed, and this one came on the market on a weekday. My fiancee and I decided, just on a whim, to make a lowball offer.

Well, the guy accepted -- he now was the proud owner of two houses. So we got an acceptable house a few months before making our marriage official, but we had dated for two years at that point. So I didn't think I was committing some huge moral sin or anything.

Yeah, my parents were upset, but then they were able to buy their first house for $12,000 or some damned thing, and while there's been inflation, it's not been that high.

We sold our first house just over two years after living there. Our profit on the house was over $10,000 per month for every month we lived there, and of course that $250K was also totally tax-free. So, no, I don't have any major regrets. Of course, it's totally different than renting a place with some girl I'd known for three months.

194 posted on 07/31/2005 5:01:41 PM PDT by Koblenz (Holland: a very tolerant country. Until someone shoots you on a public street in broad daylight...)
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To: shield

To tell you the truth, I didn't think it was quite so pervasive.


195 posted on 07/31/2005 5:02:25 PM PDT by mlmr (CHICKIE-POO!)
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To: Koblenz

Exactly, things aren't black and white. Not all couples who live together before marriage have been dating for a couple months and just need a place with a bed to screw on.


196 posted on 07/31/2005 5:04:00 PM PDT by DefiantZERO
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To: mlmr

I know I lived with my gonna be wife, both times before I got married. In both cases it was simple economics: we needed to economize, we needed to plan our wedding for a time when people could get together from all across the country...


197 posted on 07/31/2005 5:06:33 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (You don't drive a car looking through the rear view mirror, but you do practic politics that way.)
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To: Blurblogger
Well, I guess a lot of people think that the path to happiness is instant gratification. There is also social pressure working its way through HS and college, and it's more predominant in college where “hooking up” becomes a must. We also live in a culture that encourages and promotes this kind of behavior.

Lack of morals leave us valuing the wrong set of standards.

198 posted on 07/31/2005 5:11:47 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Koblenz

Congatualations!

It appears the stars lined up nicely for you and the opportunity to make your decisions between the two of you without parental distractions paid off.

I was greatly impressed with some of the horrific choices of housing in your area and your ability to stay on top of the opportunities available.

The fact that you were able to increase your equity in such a short period of time indicates that you and your wife are able to sit down and make important econonic decisions that better your situation.

You can't buy that kind of partnership.


199 posted on 07/31/2005 5:15:06 PM PDT by beaver fever
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To: Koblenz
Of course, it's totally different than renting a place with some girl I'd known for three months.

Why, because you got a good deal on a house? That "totally different" line is the one everybody uses for any and every sin they're caught committing. It's especially popular with adolescents.

200 posted on 07/31/2005 5:24:33 PM PDT by madprof98
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