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Aliens in the Armed Forces
Strategy Page ^ | July 20, 2005

Posted on 07/20/2005 3:09:01 PM PDT by spetznaz

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To: COEXERJ145
Obviously not a thing but just the word immigrant is enough to send certain people into a rage.

You guys are so wrong about "us", the "anti illegal immigrant people". We don't hate people who defend this country, did you not see HiJinx on here praising the people defending our country? We're not racists, we don't hate people of any color. We are just trying to make sure there is a legal entry with background checks and in my personal opinion, a selected and regulated entry based on needs as far as jobs are concerned. No open door policy.

Do we want the dredges of other societies? NO! No terrorists, no MS-13, no Al Qaeda! Do we want another country (as in Vincente Fox and Mexico) to dictate our policies? NO!

If I'm not mistaken, I think HiJinx's wife is from a Latin background. We don't care!!

Personally, I think we should be bringing in more immigrants from Africa, we have done little or nothing as a country to help Sudan. If anyone deserves better, they do!

We only want that there is a regulated immigration policy allowing people here that WANT to be Americans and choose to assimilate into our society.

I don't want rich and greedy American's to forsake our security and sovereignty to make another dollar. That's where I think we might differ. Is it so important to make a dollar that we give up our sovereignty and our safety to make the almighty dollar?

I think that's where we differ from the OBL people. We have more integrity, :^). As O'Reilly says, "what say you?".

41 posted on 07/20/2005 6:58:53 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: HiJinx

Oops, netiquette requires since I mentioned your name in #41, I should have copied you. Sorry.


42 posted on 07/20/2005 7:03:12 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: ozarkgirl

I appreciate the ping. You're right, she's second generation Italian. My daughter-in-law is the Mexican/Spanish mix. I love them both dearly.

And I hate being painted with a wide brush. Thanks for unloading.


43 posted on 07/20/2005 7:11:55 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Semper Fi ~)
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To: spetznaz

You know, I'm a Navy Reserve Chief Petty Officer, and I have yet to see any little gray guys with big eyes in uniform.


44 posted on 07/20/2005 7:14:33 PM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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To: Junior
You know, I'm a Navy Reserve Chief Petty Officer, and I have yet to see any little gray guys with big eyes in uniform.

It is because you are in the Navy sir. A quick look indicates that all the lil' gray dudes with marble eyes are in the airforce and the army. For example our lil' friend here in the Apache helicopter (I think the army borrowed him from the airforce ....he was originally supposed to be flying the Aurora, but the Army needed him for some spare AH-64s lying around that needed pilots with 2 pairs of arms):


45 posted on 07/20/2005 7:20:46 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: spetznaz
"Non-citizens appear to make better soldiers and sailors."

Utter bulls**t. Lost me right there. Next................

46 posted on 07/20/2005 7:21:45 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: rbg81; spetznaz; Junior

If we could entice all of our illegal immigrants into the armed forces, we could create a couple of reconstituted divisions; and if could entice 20,000 Gurkhas over here, we could have one of those divisions too. Can you imagine the 56th Infantry Division (Gurkhas) and the respect a "GURKHA" tab would have atop an Army shoulder patch? It would also be good to re-establish a USMC unit organized soley with Samoans like we did in WW II - fierce, respected fighters. Wonder how the 97th Tactical Gurkha Fighter Wing would fare. . . . .


47 posted on 07/20/2005 7:25:08 PM PDT by Ironmajor
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To: Ironmajor

whats a "Gurkha" ?


48 posted on 07/20/2005 7:46:12 PM PDT by Analog Artist (My thoughts are like silvery liquid metal floating through infinite white space in zero gravity..)
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To: minus_273
They don't allow undocumented migrants to join? I'm sure that will be rectified as soon as the powers that be find out. They'll probably make it so that illegals will be on fast track for O C s.

BTW, nothing against legals who join.

49 posted on 07/20/2005 8:40:31 PM PDT by isrul
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To: Analog Artist

GHURKAs are the warriors the British recruited from Nepal and India; go to
http://www.army.mod.uk/brigade_of_gurkhas/
and you will get the whole story.

They carried knives called kukries which you can look at http://www.m4040.com/Survival/Ghurka/History%20of%20the%20Ghurka%20Kukri.htm - awesome knife. A Gurhka gave me one which I still have.

Spelling of Ghurkas, Gurkhas is random at best. There is more. . . .


50 posted on 07/20/2005 9:03:51 PM PDT by Ironmajor
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To: Ironmajor

gurkhas is the english version of Gorkha which is the kingdom that unified nepal. Gorkhalis are all from nepal.


51 posted on 07/20/2005 9:07:15 PM PDT by minus_273
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To: Ironmajor

Kool, they look awesome !


52 posted on 07/20/2005 9:47:54 PM PDT by Analog Artist (My thoughts are like silvery liquid metal floating through infinite white space in zero gravity..)
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To: rbg81
Where did you get the notion illegal aliens are serving in our Armed Forces? The non-citizens must be legal residents. The military won't have anything to do with them otherwise. If you don't believe me, call a local recruiting office. The military is an employer, and requires Green Cards from non-citizens. And they do a background check to assure nothing is faked.

Keep the issue of non-citizens in the military completely separate from illegal immigration.
53 posted on 07/20/2005 11:17:24 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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"Where did you get the notion illegal aliens are serving in our Armed Forces?"

Where did you get the notion that "Green Cards" were secure form if ID? "Pvt. Juan Escalante was four when his parents brought the family into the country illegally from Mexico. Upon graduating from Chief Sealth High School in 2002, Escalante bought a fake U.S. residency card so that he could enlist."

http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=3157

"And they do a background check to assure nothing is faked. "

David McSwane's claim of being a dropout didn't discourage his recruiters either. He was encouraged to take a high school equivalency diploma exam, which McSwane deliberately failed. That's when he said one recruiter introduced him to the "home-school option."

McSwane was told to order a phony diploma and transcripts from an online diploma mill.

"It can be like Faith Hill Baptist School or something - whatever you choose," one of the recruiters can be heard saying in a taped phone call.

Several days and $200 later, McSwane became a proud graduate of Faith Hill Baptist High School in Longmont.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3792690,00.html

54 posted on 07/21/2005 2:12:52 AM PDT by endthematrix ("an ominous vacancy"...I mean, JOHN ROBERTS now fills this space!)
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To: Red6
Such is was the case with females in Israel who also get got drafted.

The Israelis realized it is folly to place women on the front lines.

55 posted on 07/21/2005 10:49:33 AM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7

:)

Unfortunately we can't go back.

1. Politically it would be suicide for he who attempts to change things now, even if now we are having all the so called "dreamed up" chauvinistic theories come true. Failed family care plans, non-deployable pregnant females, females who can't execute their job because the job requires close work with a Muslim ally, rape, lower retention rates among women than males. All those "chauvinistic", "bigoted", "sexist" theories are now bubbling to the surface for real. But just the mention of any problem can already get you in trouble.

2. We are an all volunteer force. The Army can’t make its quota anymore and is already cooking the books to make things look better than they are (Include delayed entry personnel in the statistics and shazam- over night the Army went from a 20% deficit a month ago, to making its quota on recruits). Females make up a substantial part of our manpower today (I believe around 17% in the Army). The Army simply can’t do without them.

Red6


56 posted on 07/21/2005 6:03:11 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6
The Army simply can’t do without them.

Then we have lost already.

57 posted on 07/22/2005 12:08:19 PM PDT by XR7
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To: spetznaz
Aliens in the armed forces.?...

Who's the idiot that allowed that situation to develop..
Mercenaries?.. The odds of them being for a free republic are minimal.. since they are probably democrats anyway.. Whats the payoff, citizenship, money, both.?.. If we cannot get enough citizens to enlist this free republic is screwed..

58 posted on 07/22/2005 12:45:40 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed by me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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