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1 posted on 07/18/2005 3:48:33 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: Balding_Eagle

I saw the Tancredo story at the gym today. Thanks Tom, I really appreciate you making us look as nutty as the Democrats. Regardless of what you meant, the MSM and the Liberals are going to run with it. You should find David Duke and form your own party, you a-hole.


2 posted on 07/18/2005 3:51:39 PM PDT by DuckFan4ever (Tom Tancredo: Making Democrats look normal since 1998)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Sits back and watches the TRolls for Jihad cram it to Tom... lol

Thanks for posting, should be interesting.


4 posted on 07/18/2005 3:54:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: Balding_Eagle; NormsRevenge

You're right. NormsRevenge was kind enough to post part of the transcript up earlier on another thread.

Those who are intellectually honest will be able to comprehend Tancredo said nothing wrong. The rest are no better than Dems.


6 posted on 07/18/2005 3:55:13 PM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Sometimes I wonder why posters don't just hit themself in the face at home, and leave us alone.


7 posted on 07/18/2005 3:55:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Not only do I think he is NOT a Nut Case, I actually think he may have been asked to raise the issue in a plausibly deniable way, to get it out there in for the Muslim world to see.

Just high enough to be believable, just low enough to be deniable.

Takes a lot of guts to go out and make yourself a target for the whining left by floating trial balloons for the administration.

Who of us has not contemplated this already?

10 posted on 07/18/2005 3:57:07 PM PDT by konaice
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To: Balding_Eagle
It's ok to say "that's a frightening proposition" or "what a desperate measure in response to ultimate destruction" or "I'm scared."

Or you can just label him a nutbag and return to burying your head in the sand. No religious holy war here, nothing to see, pass my xanax.

11 posted on 07/18/2005 3:59:09 PM PDT by monkeybrau
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To: Balding_Eagle

Tom is right on! Thank God for people like Tancredo...people who recognize the evil of Islam and are ready to act to preserve this nation from their hideousness.


13 posted on 07/18/2005 4:00:17 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Balding_Eagle

Doesn't sound nutty to me.

HOWEVER

The threat and even the follow through on a you-bomb-me / I-bomb-you policy will not discourage the muslim fundies-- they don't care if they die, nor do they care if a million innocent muslims die if it's for their cause.

I doubt also they'd give a rat's ass if a "holy" site was bombed for the same reason. In fact, they'd probably revel in it, wrap themselves in it and proclaim us all the more worthy of death for it.


14 posted on 07/18/2005 4:01:14 PM PDT by agooga (Rise up against the black robed masters.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Here is an excerpt of an earlier thread re:Tancredo statement and clarification.



Tancredo clarifies 'ultimate response'

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1443951/posts



>>>>excerpted<<<


Clarifying remarks from a radio interview that drew praise from some supporters, Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., said he was not suggesting that the U.S. should nuke the Islamic holy site Mecca as a response to a nuclear homeland attack by al-Qaida.

The congressman's press secretary told WorldNetDaily the comments were an off-the-cuff response to a hypothetical situation.

"He doesn't believe that we should go out and threaten to bomb anybody's holy city," said spokesman Will Adams.

In the interview this morning with Pat Campbell of WFLA radio in Orlando, Tancredo discussed his request for a briefing from the Justice Department on information it has on plans revealed by WND this week for a nuclear attack on the U.S. by al-Qaida terrorists.

Campbell noted that just after the London bombings last week, former Israeli counterterrorism intelligence officer Juval Aviv predicted an attack in the U.S. within the next 90 days. Aviv believes the plan is to attack not one big city, like New York, but half-a-dozen smaller ones, including towns in the heartland.

The host asked Tancredo, "Worst case scenario, if they do have these nukes inside the border, what would our response be?"

The congressman replied: "There are things you could threaten to do before something like that happens, and then you have to do afterwards, that are quite draconian."

"Well," Tancredo continued, "what if you said something like, 'If this happens in the United States and we determine that it is the result of extremist, fundamentalist Muslims, you could take out their holy sites.'"

Campbell: "You're talking about bombing Mecca?"

Tancredo: "Yeah. What if you said, we recognize that this is the ultimate threat to the United States, therefore this is the ultimate response."

The congressman quickly added, "I don't know, I'm just throwing out some ideas, because it seems that at that point in time you would be talking about taking the most draconian measures you could imagine. Because other than that, all you could do it tighten up internally."

The comments heartened some readers of Free Republic, the conservative online news forum, including one who said, "Rep. Tancredo is taking off the gloves on the Islamofacists! Yee ha!"

Others, however, reflected the sentiment of another poster, who said, "Tancredo is racing to the edge of the lunatic fringe."


15 posted on 07/18/2005 4:02:06 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: Balding_Eagle

For what it's worth, I would like to add a comment. Tom Tancredo was on the KOA Mike Rosen program this morning. Jon Caldara was the guest host. Tancredo explained his statements and what he was saying.

Tancredo said bombing Mecca, or any other site, should be an option that has to be considered if a retaliation is due because of some horrendous act against America. He pointed out these types of plans are already on the books and the military is developing contingency plans all the time, and this is one of them.

He realizes the statements in CA are going to make him look bad and will be taken differently than what he intended.

Personally, I have no problem with possible contingency plans for any nation or group that might attack the United States.


17 posted on 07/18/2005 4:05:54 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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I know what Tancredo meant, and what he said, and I can see the context its in.

That said, he should be smart enough to know that anything he says will/would be twisted around and used badly against him.

He is to smart to let himself get trapped like this normally, but he slipped up here, and now all he can do is wait it out.

There won't be any major backlash, and this won't be a big story in the grand scheme of things, chalk it up as a lesson learned on how the media can twist ya, and be more careful next time.

22 posted on 07/18/2005 4:07:44 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Balding_Eagle; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; ...

By Rocky Mountain News
July 18, 2005

Comments made by Rep. Tom Tancredo on Friday during an on-air interview on radio station WFLA in Orlando, Fla. Host Pat Campbell and the congressman were discussing the possibility of future terrorist attacks inside the United States.




Campbell: Worst case scenario, if they do have these nukes inside the borders and they were to use something like that — what would our response be?

Tancredo: What would be the response? You know, there are things that you could threaten to do before something like that happens and then you may have to do afterwards that are quite draconian.

Campbell: Such as...

Tancredo: Well, what if you said something like — if this happens in the United States, and we determine that it is the result of extremist, fundamentalist Muslims, um, you know, you could take out their holy sites . . .

Campbell: You're talking about bombing Mecca.

Tancredo: Yeah. What if you said — what if you said that we recognize that this is the ultimate threat to the United States — therefore this is the ultimate threat, this is the ultimate response.

I mean, I don't know, I'm just throwing out there some ideas because it seems to me . . . at that point in time you would be talking about taking the most draconian measures you could possibly imagine and because other than that all you could do is once again tighten up internally.


http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3935487,00.html


28 posted on 07/18/2005 4:11:52 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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Why wait? How many more Americans have to die before we drop the "big un on em.?"


31 posted on 07/18/2005 4:14:08 PM PDT by WyCoKsRepublican
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Really sad that the Tancredoites think obliterating millions of people (most of whom probably only care about surviving day to day) but it is no surprise. They worship the guy so much they can't see that he is a kook. There are plenty of other people who could do more about immigration than this nut job but they will blindly follow him right off a cliff.
34 posted on 07/18/2005 4:18:37 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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Thanks for posting that link. It puts his comments in context.


52 posted on 07/18/2005 5:00:52 PM PDT by marblehead17 (I love it when a plan comes together.)
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Tancredo is right. Personally I think that if a suit-case nuke goes off in Boston (just picked that town at random), and it is traced to Islamists, we should retaliate in kind. That should be understood in advance. If Allah permits Mecca to be atomized that would settle some of the theological debates.


57 posted on 07/18/2005 5:12:05 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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I do not believe Tancredo is a nut case but his thinking on strategy is shallow. Nothing would be gained by blowing up their sacred rock. It would only take one cruise missle after all! It could be timed to hit just as a mullah was bending over. Why blow it up? What we need to do is fill a cruise missle warhead with pigs blood and guts and pig bone shrapnel. THe rock should not be blown up, but there should be a rather powerful air burst that peppers the locale with the impure products of the swinery. These products should pierce the skin of those present but not kill anybody. Then they will each have to do 2 million circumnabulations of the rock (to regain purity to blow themselves up to enter heaven) instead of blowing up innocent children! Tancredo needs to think of taking away the possibility of heaven rather than giving it to them! I find that more subtle, and one can imagine the money to be made in pork belly futures on the Chicago commodity exchange,as companies like Ratheon gear up to manufacture the first Piggly Wiggly Cruise Missle. Instead of weapons of mass destruction we can use weapons of mass contamination. Like people in horror movies who do not know the effect of silver bullets on vampires and werewolves, we make a marvelous dicovery....... Unfortunately the Chinese are ahead of us in covert swine hi tech. They have an intercontinental version viewable at this link, scroll down. I would insert the photo but do not know how, if someone wants to e-mail me the html tags to use, please PM me? thanks!): http://steelturman.typepad.com/ It is called , appropriately enough: Moo Goo Guy Gone. Strategists like Tancredo who want to strike fear into the heart of radical Islam need to start thinking of silver bullets. Invest in Porkbellies! Tatoo Koranic slogans on pigs and set them loose in Waziristan! Whats wrong with our Psy-Ops guys anyway? Are they too bound by holdover PC ideas from the Clinton Years ?
58 posted on 07/18/2005 5:14:06 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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NO NUKES ON MECCA!!!

(A daisycutter in the center of that stadium with the rock in it will do just fine)

79 posted on 07/18/2005 5:49:01 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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I heard the voice quotes earlier. He was "goaded" into saying "Yes......." in answer to a question by a talk show host re an Israeli person saying that we, the USA, are going to be targeted massively (implying nukes) within the next 3 months.

NOW, the GREAT HUGH HEWITT has spent the last nearly TWO HOURS calling names, saying these people (us, apparently), are crazy etc.etc.etc. Hugh implies that Islam is a "Religion of Peace". Where have we heard that before?

Talk about giving aljezeera plenty of talking points. Thanks a lot, Hugh.

I listen to Hugh nearly every day, most of the time I find him a thoughtful person. Today, I think that if Tancredo stepped over the line, he WAS NOT ALONE!!!


81 posted on 07/18/2005 5:54:59 PM PDT by meema
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To: Balding_Eagle
I don't see anything wrong with what Tancredo said. I'm glad he said it even if it will cause an uproar. In fact, I hope it does cause an uproar. If it gets debated on television the point is probably going to be reiterated by an 'expert' at some point or someone will point out that it is similar to the Mutually Assured Destruction policy we had during the Cold War.

It's good that the idea gets put out there- give the Muslim nations something to chew on.

87 posted on 07/18/2005 6:00:46 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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