Posted on 07/17/2005 1:34:29 AM PDT by nhman1
The VAWA is much more than a huge federal distribution of funds used to help prevent violence against women. Those who commit violent acts, no matter whether in the context of an intimate relationship or against strangers, deserve to be severely punished and must be stopped from offending again.
The Violence Against Women Act, however, does far more than this and is in reality the taxpayer funding of a nationwide movement of radical individuals who do everything in their power to attack American fatherhood. Don't believe those in power who speak of wholesale numbers of fathers who don't want to be involved with their children. Get educated about what those organizations receiving VAWA funds are really doing and recognize that fathers are being forcibly removed, en masse, from their children through the legislative and judicial influences that VAWA fuels.
The Constitution is of no more value than a discarded kleenex unless the VAWA is heavily modified or left to sunset. Worse yet, our country's continued health is in grave jeopardy if the social tragedy both facilitated and encouraged by the VAWA is not reconciled.
I am in favor of all people being Equal under the Law, regardless of race, creed, color, gender, national origin etc. I know, that’s a strange and radical concept.
Yes, VAWA is CACA...
We gave our Party two terms to stop the VAWA violations against families and against our Constitution. Soon we'll see how far it gets with the feminist votes it has preferred to beg for.
"If you happen to be a man who was beat up or assaulted by a girlfriend, etc., forget it."
When I was a kid, a girl used to beat me up regularly. That was, until I had the green light to defend myself. [Was first taught to never hit a lady.] She bugged me one time after that. Men, one smack is ok. A lady is entitled to a sharp, front-handed slap-- not in a legal sense, but the law is wrong on many points. A true gentleman permits that. [Too many jerks go balistic over that.] One punch in the shoulder or gut on a guy is ok too, especially from a woman. Or an ear grab or a hair yank. Don't be a touchy 'modern punk' who hospitalizes a woman over the small stuff. But if she continues to assault you, and if you've done nothing to deserve it, I don't blame any man for whipping her tail at that point.
Going against VAWA is going to take a lot more education and specific examples of abuse. I haven't seen much at all about it up until now. People need to target someone at Rusty Humphey's level. He's top ten. And work their way up from there. Men generally don't like woman beaters. Nor do women. It will be an uphill battle.
OH boy. Yer gonna git an Arse whippin from the FRwimmins for that one when they wakes up! Remember, they wants us to be honest, but not necessarily tell the truth.
What? That a lady is entitled to smack a guy? Or that men generally don't like woman beaters? I'm not saying I like woman beaters-- let me make that clear. But I wouldn't be surprised if the left went overboard, either. FRegards....
"Yes, men who have opposed the VAWA have been generally called "wife beaters" and the like."
Right. That's why you are in for an uphill fight here. May Truth win out. But the sad truth is, some truths are more easilly triumphant than others. FRegards....
And,
#1: If she dials 911 and the poilice show up, they will arrest you, no questions asked.
#2: If she goes to court to obtain an order for protection against you, and you admit to the judge that you only hit her lightly, one time, he will grant her the order against you. At that point, you lose your 2nd amendment rights, and you will forever have a legal cloud hanging over you. You're branded as a perpetrator of domestic violence.
I was in a situation once where I and a man (my husband) got into a 'domestic dispute'. I'll be totally honest and admit that we were both intoxicated. He knocked me down but I think I was the first to throw a punch. Someone called the police and He was arrested for public drunkeness and assault. Now by all rights I should have been arrested as well as the altercation was two ways. ( I did tell the DJ this and she only fined him instead of giving him jail time). The 'justice system' most definitly discriminates against men. (BTW I paid half of his fine for him since the incident was half my fault)
I'm new here, "nhman1". Could you please list the groups that are also recieving VAWA funds? I know you've probably already done that, but it probably deserves repeating.
The CautiousCowboy
Such restraining orders are routinely granted with no admissions of guilt, no evidence and no testimony other than that of the wives/mates making the accusations. During the 1990s, after most of my friends and relatives were divorced, I volunteered to take calls of distress and sit in for court watches. I also did a little work in the judicial system, which work I quit permanently after a few months due to seeing what was happening. ...did a women's studies course after being advised to by an English program advisor, too (to avoid "sexist pronouns" and other anti-feminist speech). Many of the services that ostensibly offer "shelter" are like feminist war rooms (see "counseling") that also house deferred convicts for lack of "victims."
You might find the following interesting, if you haven't already seen it. ...last I heard, the Supremes refused to hear it, and Emerson went to federal prison.
The Emerson Case
http://www.ejfi.org/emerson.htm
THREE VAWA articles in one day - all by newbies or relative newbies.
Curious?
Hello, Kitty!
I absolutely agree that VAWA must be gender neutral or repealed. Seeing firsthand the experience of my husband trying to get help from the shelters, courts and other "helpful" entities for protection from his ex-wife was sickening to see. He was either lying, making too big a deal about nothing or he was a wimp. So we ended up with no help but from each other. Men get abused too and it is shameful that there is a law to protect women that actually gives them license to abuse men without consequence. REPEAL IT NOW!
Three in one day. I guess anti-VAWA people are making the rounds. The Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on VAWA are on Tuesday the 19th. No victims, male or female or anyone opposed to VAWA is permitted to trestify.
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